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HOLY PERFECTION
LUNAR PROPHECY
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:07:00 -
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I am pleased with the news of the upcoming 1.10 patch. However, I am sure everyone knows about shot gunners. Since the cloaks had come out the shotguns have become overpowered. I am sure everyone agrees. Don't you just love it when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar and a shot gunner comes behind you and hills you in 3 or 4 seconds. I hope you guys do something about this.
Could you tell us future plans of what possible you will be bringing to cloaks and other suits?
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
878
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:11:00 -
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Shotgun is not OP. But there is little incentive to go Proto when the STD/MLT gets the job done.
No one does it better than PIE
Lasers4life
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3024
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:13:00 -
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If you die in a 1300 amarr heavy to anything inside of 40 meters, you could be this game's worst player.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Jacques Cayton II
Titans of Phoenix
1201
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:35:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:If you die in a 1300 amarr heavy to anything inside of 40 meters, you could be this game's worst player.
Shotties destroy my heavy rip cal heavy
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Hakyou Brutor
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:39:00 -
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Complaining your 1500 eHP 800 DPS death machine actually has a counter... lol.
However, yes, I agree with Jacques, Min and Cal heavies are UP
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Hakyou Brutor
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:50:00 -
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Actually, instead of simply stating you are wrong, let me do the math for you, bud.
You said you have 1800 HP (500 shield, 1300 armor), my PC shotgunning scout has 400 HP.
HMG does 792 DPS, you say shotgun kills you in 3 or 4 seconds.
If you were to turn around and spray at my PC scout and miss half your bullets you would theoretically kill me in 1 second.
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
3384
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Posted - 2014.12.05 05:06:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Actually, instead of simply stating you are wrong, let me do the math for you, bud.
You said you have 1800 HP (500 shield, 1300 armor), my PC shotgunning scout has 400 HP.
HMG does 792 DPS, you say shotgun kills you in 3 or 4 seconds.
If you were to turn around and spray at my PC scout and miss half your bullets you would theoretically kill me in 1 second.
This argument proves one of two things
1) OP is bad at dust for dying so slow and not reacting
Or
2) Shotty kills faster than what OP says, and faster than reaction time, and thus your argument states the shotgun is more OP than OP anticipates 
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.05 05:15:00 -
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Shorties are definetly not OP...
I don't see heavies, assaults, logistics, or commandos running it regularly or even more than occasionally...
Suit+weapon synergies are OP. I assume you are referring to shotgun scouts, and not the shotgun alone... At least I hope.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2195
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Posted - 2014.12.05 06:19:00 -
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Shotguns w/o the cloak are quite bad. Most people will manage to kill you before you get in the 4 foot range that the shotgun deals actual damage in.
Shotguns w/ the cloak are really good. The high alpha helps get the hurt shelled before the target notices that he's been ganked.
Is go on a limb and say at SG is underpowered, only being really feasible on either a cloak scout, or a mini assault/kincat'd assault to get close enough for your damage to get dealt.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.12.05 06:57:00 -
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i actyually dont have a problem with shotguns the way they are.
do shotgun scouts rip me a new one? of course!
but i run a shield suit that focuses on positional advantage and and hit and run. a shotgun scout is my counter.
shotgun scouts also specialise in taking out rep logis before their heavy can react and REALLY bad heavies.
a good scout gives me alot of trouble but i dont actually have a problem with that.
the problem with shotguns is that militia does the same job as proto
the problem with cloaks is that the delay between decloak and shooting is easily bypassed and lag creates the same situation of the scout shooting while still cloaked from the victims perspective.
that and the cloak delay effects reemote explosives on suits no wearinng a clock wich sucks hard.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Jebus McKing
Jebus Hates Scans
1214
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:12:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I am pleased with the news of the upcoming 1.10 patch. However, I am sure everyone knows about shot gunners. Since the cloaks had come out the shotguns have become overpowered. I am sure everyone agrees. Don't you just love it when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar and a shot gunner comes behind you and hills you in 3 or 4 seconds. I hope you guys do something about this.
Could you tell us future plans of what possible you will be bringing to cloaks and other suits?
Used a Minnie Assault with 3x kincats and a STD shotgun yesterday. I can confirm the problem is not scouts, or cloaks, or EWAR or whatever people come up with.
The shotgun is just very good when you can get in range quickly. Nothing but paying more attention can save you from the shotgun.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4888
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:14:00 -
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Shotgun is not OP. Use it on an Assault or heavy.
Suits make the weapon. The fast, undetectable scouts made it an ideal home for the shotgun to be used with extreme potential.
Also, cloaks were only op when they all had a 25% dB bonus to them.
Don't tell me you can't see a blue outline coming straight at you, because you'd be a scrub, and if they're coming from behind you, chances are, they wouldn't have appearedon your radar anyways because of the suit qualities and soon, we'll have the delay working properly, so you may quit your whining.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5639
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Posted - 2014.12.05 10:52:00 -
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It's not the weapon.
Its the delivery platform.
I challenge you to put a shotgun on any assault suit and go for the top leaderboard spot.
If you can do this, then I hope you aren't a scout because you actually get to call yourself a DUST badass without a word of dissent or mockery from me.
Ok maybe a few words.
Not many though.
Calamity jane was scary to fight. No joke.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2425
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Posted - 2014.12.05 11:58:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:It's not the weapon.
Its the delivery platform.
I challenge you to put a shotgun on any assault suit and go for the top leaderboard spot.
If you can do this, then I hope you aren't a scout because you actually get to call yourself a DUST badass without a word of dissent or mockery from me.
Ok maybe a few words.
Not many though.
Calamity jane was scary to fight. No joke.
i still shudder at the thought of unloading everything i had on him and his bro only to eat a shotgun round to the face anyways.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ryme Intrinseca
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
2185
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Posted - 2014.12.05 12:18:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Shorties are definetly not OP...
What about when you get back from a stretch in county and your little cousin is ******* your shorty? Totally OP |
CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
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Posted - 2014.12.05 12:48:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I am pleased with the news of the upcoming 1.10 patch. However, I am sure everyone knows about shot gunners. Since the cloaks had come out the shotguns have become overpowered. I am sure everyone agrees. Don't you just love it when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar and a shot gunner comes behind you and hills you in 3 or 4 seconds. I hope you guys do something about this.
Could you tell us future plans of what possible you will be bringing to cloaks and other suits?
there are still hit detection problems with the shotgun.
3 or 4 seconds with a shotgun is a problem? do you expect to survive 10 seconds?
in most shooters if somebody fires at you you're dead in WAY less than 2 seconds and you're complaining about 4 seconds?
What other shooter allows you to have 4 times the hp of another player?
i hope this is a joke thread.
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1001
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Posted - 2014.12.05 13:05:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:...when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar ...
I hope they do something about this as well. |
LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
1031
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Posted - 2014.12.05 13:42:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Shorties are definetly not OP... What about when you get back from a stretch in county and your little cousin is ******* your shorty? Totally OP
Freaking spell check...
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Valor Goat
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Posted - 2014.12.05 13:45:00 -
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Shotgun itself isn't OP, but if you come close enough to an enemy, which is uber easy to do if you are a cloacked speed-dampened scout, that's it, extremely easy kill.
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Tweaksz
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
129
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Posted - 2014.12.05 13:52:00 -
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LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
8538
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Posted - 2014.12.05 15:30:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:It's not the weapon.
Its the delivery platform.
I challenge you to put a shotgun on any assault suit and go for the top leaderboard spot.
PC or Pubs?
Cause I've done this in Pubs a few times over.
I love my Min Assault 
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA
Smart Deploy
117
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Posted - 2014.12.05 15:45:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:[quote=
Used a Minnie Assault with 3x kincats and a STD shotgun yesterday. I can confirm the problem is not scouts, or cloaks, or EWAR or whatever people come up with.
The shotgun is just very good when you can get in range quickly. Nothing but paying more attention can save you from the shotgun.
A min assault with 3 kinkats you say hhhhmmmm, HHHMMMMMM, HHHMMM with even bigger font!!!. I think I'm starting to salivate. is this fit possible on an advance suit? |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.05 15:51:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I am pleased with the news of the upcoming 1.10 patch. However, I am sure everyone knows about shot gunners. Since the cloaks had come out the shotguns have become overpowered. I am sure everyone agrees. Don't you just love it when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar and a shot gunner comes behind you and hills you in 3 or 4 seconds. I hope you guys do something about this.
Could you tell us future plans of what possible you will be bringing to cloaks and other suits?
The Shotgun Scout is the intended counter to the HMG Sentinel. While there may well be some problems with Scout balance right now, even when everything is working as intended you will still die to Shotgun Scouts sneaking up behind you. Keep you head on a swivel, and check your six.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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HOLY PERFECTION
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:52:00 -
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Tweaksz wrote:LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement.
You sir are stuuuuupid. Gallentes are fast enough to keep up with scouts. Ammars on the other hand are NOT. Therefor making the ammar sentinel at an extreme disadvantage. S T U P I D |
Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:59:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Tweaksz wrote:LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement. You sir are stuuuuupid. Gallentes are fast enough to keep up with scouts. Ammars on the other hand are NOT. Therefor making the ammar sentinel at an extreme disadvantage. S T U P I D
Dude, this topic died a month ago for a reason. threadomancy is a dark art, not practiced by well-meaning and intelligent sh*tposters.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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HOLY PERFECTION
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:02:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Tweaksz wrote:LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement. You sir are stuuuuupid. Gallentes are fast enough to keep up with scouts. Ammars on the other hand are NOT. Therefor making the ammar sentinel at an extreme disadvantage. S T U P I D Dude, this topic died a month ago for a reason. threadomancy is a dark art, not practiced by well-meaning and intelligent sh*tposters.
never to late, besides shotguns are still Overpowered. If not the shotgun then the suit is way to ****** fast
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Breakin Stuff
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:11:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Tweaksz wrote:LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement. You sir are stuuuuupid. Gallentes are fast enough to keep up with scouts. Ammars on the other hand are NOT. Therefor making the ammar sentinel at an extreme disadvantage. S T U P I D Dude, this topic died a month ago for a reason. threadomancy is a dark art, not practiced by well-meaning and intelligent sh*tposters. never to late, besides shotguns are still Overpowered. If not the shotgun then the suit is way to ****** fast
If it wasn't too fast it'd be useless. Go home. You're drunk.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6869
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:15:00 -
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Nope, the shotgun is only good if they close in on you and if you're smart enough to not be fooled by the cloak then it will be impossible to kill fr the front. Also it is impossible to use on anything but a speed tanking suit because it is useless unless you are up close to people.
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HOLY PERFECTION
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:18:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Nope, the shotgun is only good if they close in on you and if you're smart enough to not be fooled by the cloak then it will be impossible to kill fr the front. Also it is impossible to use on anything but a speed tanking suit because it is useless unless you are up close to people.
you got to see it through an ammar sentinals eyes. Im to slow to even look around, I have to focus in front of me |
Vlad Rostok
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
53
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:24:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Nope, the shotgun is only good if they close in on you and if you're smart enough to not be fooled by the cloak then it will be impossible to kill fr the front. Also it is impossible to use on anything but a speed tanking suit because it is useless unless you are up close to people.
In all seriousness, what is the shotgun's range? I keep hearing/reading this 4 feet nonsense, but I've been killed by SG scouts at over 10 meters, back-pedalling for all I'm worth. |
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1665
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:45:00 -
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XD
TLDR : Last Dust Montage
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
683
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:53:00 -
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I don't know about you guys but the hole scout/cloak/SG is getting old.
It's also toxic to new players they just leave after getting SG in the back 24/7. It's not a fun new player experience to get killed al day without even knowing wtf killed you.
It's a game and its sopose to be fun, ppl just say f-it and go to other games.
Not that it really matters the game is going down any way but still worth some reflection
Regards
War never changes
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
683
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:54:00 -
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Vlad Rostok wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Nope, the shotgun is only good if they close in on you and if you're smart enough to not be fooled by the cloak then it will be impossible to kill fr the front. Also it is impossible to use on anything but a speed tanking suit because it is useless unless you are up close to people. In all seriousness, what is the shotgun's range? I keep hearing/reading this 4 feet nonsense, but I've been killed by SG scouts at over 10 meters, back-pedalling for all I'm worth.
Same bro same
War never changes
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:08:00 -
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The shotty is sooo OP!
Just like the HMG is basically a bubble gun, I don't know why the +50s appear on my screen when I fire.
Yeah, Shotty Scout and Galsent here, must say the Shotgun is a great weapon, but not really OP. The HMG however...
Let's just say that SG is to counter Sents, that's always been it's purpose. The HMG is area denial, but has turned into "Free kills"
You better not cry. You'd better not pout, I'm telling you why. Raven Claws is coming to town!
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:22:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:I don't know about you guys but the hole scout/cloak/SG is getting old.
It's also toxic to new players they just leave after getting SG in the back 24/7. It's not a fun new player experience to get killed al day without even knowing wtf killed you.
It's a game and its sopose to be fun, ppl just say f-it and go to other games.
Not that it really matters the game is going down any way but still worth some reflection
Regards
So is your terrible spelling and grammar.
It's not even that common anymore, but Heavies... they have been OP for a long, long time. The HMG anyway, I shred thy heavies.  I see about 2 (not counting me.) SG scouts in a single game and 8 or 9 heavies a match. The rest are logis.
Your point is invalid.
To those who have problems reading it.
Quote:
I don't know about you guys, but the whole scout, shotgun, and cloak meta is getting old.
It's also toxic to the new players. They just leave after getting killed by a shotgun in the back 24/7. It's no a fun new player experience to get killed all day without knowing what killed you. (It was a HMG, not a SG.)
It's a game and it's supposed to be fun, now people just say 'fuck it' and go to other games.
(Snip because I hate this grim look on things.)
You better not cry. You'd better not pout, I'm telling you why. Raven Claws is coming to town!
I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
2399
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:26:00 -
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Vlad Rostok wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Nope, the shotgun is only good if they close in on you and if you're smart enough to not be fooled by the cloak then it will be impossible to kill fr the front. Also it is impossible to use on anything but a speed tanking suit because it is useless unless you are up close to people. In all seriousness, what is the shotgun's range? I keep hearing/reading this 4 feet nonsense, but I've been killed by SG scouts at over 10 meters, back-pedalling for all I'm worth.
1-5m is where it excels, 6-10m is where you will be lucky to win, 11-15m is where you basically do nothing and has no use.
You want to stay within 5m of your target, if you use NKs often it should be no problem as you'd be used to stay at 2m.
NKs are the best. 
You better not cry. You'd better not pout, I'm telling you why. Raven Claws is coming to town!
I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3397
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Posted - 2015.01.06 03:01:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:It's not the weapon.
Its the delivery platform.
I challenge you to put a shotgun on any assault suit and go for the top leaderboard spot.
If you can do this, then I hope you aren't a scout because you actually get to call yourself a DUST badass without a word of dissent or mockery from me.
Ok maybe a few words.
Not many though.
Calamity jane was scary to fight. No joke.
Are you kidding me?
I only SG in my min assault now.
And i did top the leaderboards earlier today running solo with a 22/3 17k WP game.
So call me a badass.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2015.01.06 08:40:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:The shotty is sooo OP!
Just like the HMG is basically a bubble gun, I don't know why the +50s appear on my screen when I fire.
Yeah, Shotty Scout and Galsent here, must say the Shotgun is a great weapon, but not really OP. The HMG however...
Let's just say that SG is to counter Sents, that's always been it's purpose. The HMG is area denial, but has turned into "Free kills"
Area denial is only possible if you have enough range to dicourage approach. What we have Is a tool for cleaning unwanted trash from your trenchline.
No I do not believe the HMG should get a range boost without reworking a few key mechanics around it.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
684
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Posted - 2015.01.06 08:47:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:I don't know about you guys but the hole scout/cloak/SG is getting old.
It's also toxic to new players they just leave after getting SG in the back 24/7. It's not a fun new player experience to get killed al day without even knowing wtf killed you.
It's a game and its sopose to be fun, ppl just say f-it and go to other games.
Not that it really matters the game is going down any way but still worth some reflection
Regards So is your terrible spelling and grammar. It's not even that common anymore, but Heavies... they have been OP for a long, long time. The HMG anyway, I shred thy heavies. I see about 2 (not counting me.) SG scouts in a single game and 8 or 9 heavies a match. The rest are logis. Your point is invalid. To those who have problems reading it. Quote:
I don't know about you guys, but the whole scout, shotgun, and cloak meta is getting old.
It's also toxic to the new players. They just leave after getting killed by a shotgun in the back 24/7. It's no a fun new player experience to get killed all day without knowing what killed you. (It was a HMG, not a SG.)
It's a game and it's supposed to be fun, now people just say 'fuck it' and go to other games.
(Snip because I hate this grim look on things.)
My English in not my second or even third language you ignorant pleb.
May come as a surprise to you that the majority of the world don't have it as its first language or speek it in the first place.
Sorry but I stand buy my post how with al it's bad English, the fact that you even commented it in that manner in a international forum only showed that you are nothing but a troll.
Men vi kan ta det p+Ñ svenska om du fattar det b+ñttre d+Ñ !
Sista idioten +ñr inte f+¦dd +ñn
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
260
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Posted - 2015.01.06 09:02:00 -
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I dont feel the shotgun is OP or UP. I just dont think it belongs in this game. It belongs in CoD with the 12 year olds doin ur mom
Rise and shine CCP. It's time to implement ping based match making.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1732
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Posted - 2015.01.06 09:51:00 -
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I dont have problem with shotguns or cloaks. when they run into my face I see or hear them. when a shotgun user tries to run at me I can run around a corner and leave a grenade for him as present or simply kill him on his approach when I have range advantage => there is counterplay
but damping vs scanning is still the same because CCP forgot to finetune the numbers when they made the last changes which means damping is still superior to scanning. you can still shoot during decloak animation and you dont hear footsteps or decloak sounds when they originate from behind you. => no counterplay and I have a problem with how there is no counter play when getting killed by a cloaked shotgunner.
Forever ETC wrote:Shotgun is not OP. But there is little incentive to go Proto when the STD/MLT gets the job done.
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demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
417
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Posted - 2015.01.06 17:22:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Tweaksz wrote:LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement. You sir are stuuuuupid. Gallentes are fast enough to keep up with scouts. Ammars on the other hand are NOT. Therefor making the ammar sentinel at an extreme disadvantage. S T U P I D Dude, this topic died a month ago for a reason. threadomancy is a dark art, not practiced by well-meaning and intelligent sh*tposters. never to late, besides shotguns are still Overpowered. If not the shotgun then the suit is way to ****** fast If it wasn't too fast it'd be useless. Go home. You're drunk.
He's not anywhere near old enough to even drink
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Posted - 2015.01.06 17:29:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I am pleased with the news of the upcoming 1.10 patch. However, I am sure everyone knows about shot gunners. Since the cloaks had come out the shotguns have become overpowered. I am sure everyone agrees. Don't you just love it when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar and a shot gunner comes behind you and hills you in 3 or 4 seconds. I hope you guys do something about this.
Could you tell us future plans of what possible you will be bringing to cloaks and other suits?
Not amused.
Sentinels are becoming like tankers used to be.
WHINING about anything that can kill them...
Let me quess. You think Remote Explosives and Nova Knives are OP too right?
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:40:00 -
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Awww.. scout right?! |
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