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HOLY PERFECTION
LUNAR PROPHECY
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:07:00 -
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I am pleased with the news of the upcoming 1.10 patch. However, I am sure everyone knows about shot gunners. Since the cloaks had come out the shotguns have become overpowered. I am sure everyone agrees. Don't you just love it when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar and a shot gunner comes behind you and hills you in 3 or 4 seconds. I hope you guys do something about this.
Could you tell us future plans of what possible you will be bringing to cloaks and other suits?
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
878
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:11:00 -
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Shotgun is not OP. But there is little incentive to go Proto when the STD/MLT gets the job done.
No one does it better than PIE
Lasers4life
"Gravity released me. Don't ever hold me down."
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3024
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:13:00 -
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If you die in a 1300 amarr heavy to anything inside of 40 meters, you could be this game's worst player.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Jacques Cayton II
Titans of Phoenix
1201
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:35:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:If you die in a 1300 amarr heavy to anything inside of 40 meters, you could be this game's worst player.
Shotties destroy my heavy rip cal heavy
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Hakyou Brutor
Titans of Phoenix
1741
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:39:00 -
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Complaining your 1500 eHP 800 DPS death machine actually has a counter... lol.
However, yes, I agree with Jacques, Min and Cal heavies are UP
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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Hakyou Brutor
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.05 04:50:00 -
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Actually, instead of simply stating you are wrong, let me do the math for you, bud.
You said you have 1800 HP (500 shield, 1300 armor), my PC shotgunning scout has 400 HP.
HMG does 792 DPS, you say shotgun kills you in 3 or 4 seconds.
If you were to turn around and spray at my PC scout and miss half your bullets you would theoretically kill me in 1 second.
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
3384
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Posted - 2014.12.05 05:06:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Actually, instead of simply stating you are wrong, let me do the math for you, bud.
You said you have 1800 HP (500 shield, 1300 armor), my PC shotgunning scout has 400 HP.
HMG does 792 DPS, you say shotgun kills you in 3 or 4 seconds.
If you were to turn around and spray at my PC scout and miss half your bullets you would theoretically kill me in 1 second.
This argument proves one of two things
1) OP is bad at dust for dying so slow and not reacting
Or
2) Shotty kills faster than what OP says, and faster than reaction time, and thus your argument states the shotgun is more OP than OP anticipates 
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.05 05:15:00 -
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Shorties are definetly not OP...
I don't see heavies, assaults, logistics, or commandos running it regularly or even more than occasionally...
Suit+weapon synergies are OP. I assume you are referring to shotgun scouts, and not the shotgun alone... At least I hope.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.05 06:19:00 -
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Shotguns w/o the cloak are quite bad. Most people will manage to kill you before you get in the 4 foot range that the shotgun deals actual damage in.
Shotguns w/ the cloak are really good. The high alpha helps get the hurt shelled before the target notices that he's been ganked.
Is go on a limb and say at SG is underpowered, only being really feasible on either a cloak scout, or a mini assault/kincat'd assault to get close enough for your damage to get dealt.
I Live for Tears
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.12.05 06:57:00 -
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i actyually dont have a problem with shotguns the way they are.
do shotgun scouts rip me a new one? of course!
but i run a shield suit that focuses on positional advantage and and hit and run. a shotgun scout is my counter.
shotgun scouts also specialise in taking out rep logis before their heavy can react and REALLY bad heavies.
a good scout gives me alot of trouble but i dont actually have a problem with that.
the problem with shotguns is that militia does the same job as proto
the problem with cloaks is that the delay between decloak and shooting is easily bypassed and lag creates the same situation of the scout shooting while still cloaked from the victims perspective.
that and the cloak delay effects reemote explosives on suits no wearinng a clock wich sucks hard.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Jebus McKing
Jebus Hates Scans
1214
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:12:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I am pleased with the news of the upcoming 1.10 patch. However, I am sure everyone knows about shot gunners. Since the cloaks had come out the shotguns have become overpowered. I am sure everyone agrees. Don't you just love it when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar and a shot gunner comes behind you and hills you in 3 or 4 seconds. I hope you guys do something about this.
Could you tell us future plans of what possible you will be bringing to cloaks and other suits?
Used a Minnie Assault with 3x kincats and a STD shotgun yesterday. I can confirm the problem is not scouts, or cloaks, or EWAR or whatever people come up with.
The shotgun is just very good when you can get in range quickly. Nothing but paying more attention can save you from the shotgun.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:14:00 -
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Shotgun is not OP. Use it on an Assault or heavy.
Suits make the weapon. The fast, undetectable scouts made it an ideal home for the shotgun to be used with extreme potential.
Also, cloaks were only op when they all had a 25% dB bonus to them.
Don't tell me you can't see a blue outline coming straight at you, because you'd be a scrub, and if they're coming from behind you, chances are, they wouldn't have appearedon your radar anyways because of the suit qualities and soon, we'll have the delay working properly, so you may quit your whining.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5639
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Posted - 2014.12.05 10:52:00 -
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It's not the weapon.
Its the delivery platform.
I challenge you to put a shotgun on any assault suit and go for the top leaderboard spot.
If you can do this, then I hope you aren't a scout because you actually get to call yourself a DUST badass without a word of dissent or mockery from me.
Ok maybe a few words.
Not many though.
Calamity jane was scary to fight. No joke.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2425
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Posted - 2014.12.05 11:58:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:It's not the weapon.
Its the delivery platform.
I challenge you to put a shotgun on any assault suit and go for the top leaderboard spot.
If you can do this, then I hope you aren't a scout because you actually get to call yourself a DUST badass without a word of dissent or mockery from me.
Ok maybe a few words.
Not many though.
Calamity jane was scary to fight. No joke.
i still shudder at the thought of unloading everything i had on him and his bro only to eat a shotgun round to the face anyways.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ryme Intrinseca
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.12.05 12:18:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Shorties are definetly not OP...
What about when you get back from a stretch in county and your little cousin is ******* your shorty? Totally OP |
CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
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Posted - 2014.12.05 12:48:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I am pleased with the news of the upcoming 1.10 patch. However, I am sure everyone knows about shot gunners. Since the cloaks had come out the shotguns have become overpowered. I am sure everyone agrees. Don't you just love it when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar and a shot gunner comes behind you and hills you in 3 or 4 seconds. I hope you guys do something about this.
Could you tell us future plans of what possible you will be bringing to cloaks and other suits?
there are still hit detection problems with the shotgun.
3 or 4 seconds with a shotgun is a problem? do you expect to survive 10 seconds?
in most shooters if somebody fires at you you're dead in WAY less than 2 seconds and you're complaining about 4 seconds?
What other shooter allows you to have 4 times the hp of another player?
i hope this is a joke thread.
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.12.05 13:05:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:...when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar ...
I hope they do something about this as well. |
LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.05 13:42:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Shorties are definetly not OP... What about when you get back from a stretch in county and your little cousin is ******* your shorty? Totally OP
Freaking spell check...
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Valor Goat
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Posted - 2014.12.05 13:45:00 -
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Shotgun itself isn't OP, but if you come close enough to an enemy, which is uber easy to do if you are a cloacked speed-dampened scout, that's it, extremely easy kill.
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Tweaksz
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.05 13:52:00 -
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LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement.
Pill Popping Madness!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
8538
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Posted - 2014.12.05 15:30:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:It's not the weapon.
Its the delivery platform.
I challenge you to put a shotgun on any assault suit and go for the top leaderboard spot.
PC or Pubs?
Cause I've done this in Pubs a few times over.
I love my Min Assault 
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2014.12.05 15:45:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:[quote=
Used a Minnie Assault with 3x kincats and a STD shotgun yesterday. I can confirm the problem is not scouts, or cloaks, or EWAR or whatever people come up with.
The shotgun is just very good when you can get in range quickly. Nothing but paying more attention can save you from the shotgun.
A min assault with 3 kinkats you say hhhhmmmm, HHHMMMMMM, HHHMMM with even bigger font!!!. I think I'm starting to salivate. is this fit possible on an advance suit? |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.05 15:51:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I am pleased with the news of the upcoming 1.10 patch. However, I am sure everyone knows about shot gunners. Since the cloaks had come out the shotguns have become overpowered. I am sure everyone agrees. Don't you just love it when you have a 500 shield 1300 armor heavy Ammar and a shot gunner comes behind you and hills you in 3 or 4 seconds. I hope you guys do something about this.
Could you tell us future plans of what possible you will be bringing to cloaks and other suits?
The Shotgun Scout is the intended counter to the HMG Sentinel. While there may well be some problems with Scout balance right now, even when everything is working as intended you will still die to Shotgun Scouts sneaking up behind you. Keep you head on a swivel, and check your six.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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HOLY PERFECTION
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:52:00 -
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Tweaksz wrote:LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement.
You sir are stuuuuupid. Gallentes are fast enough to keep up with scouts. Ammars on the other hand are NOT. Therefor making the ammar sentinel at an extreme disadvantage. S T U P I D |
Breakin Stuff
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:59:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Tweaksz wrote:LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement. You sir are stuuuuupid. Gallentes are fast enough to keep up with scouts. Ammars on the other hand are NOT. Therefor making the ammar sentinel at an extreme disadvantage. S T U P I D
Dude, this topic died a month ago for a reason. threadomancy is a dark art, not practiced by well-meaning and intelligent sh*tposters.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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HOLY PERFECTION
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:02:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Tweaksz wrote:LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement. You sir are stuuuuupid. Gallentes are fast enough to keep up with scouts. Ammars on the other hand are NOT. Therefor making the ammar sentinel at an extreme disadvantage. S T U P I D Dude, this topic died a month ago for a reason. threadomancy is a dark art, not practiced by well-meaning and intelligent sh*tposters.
never to late, besides shotguns are still Overpowered. If not the shotgun then the suit is way to ****** fast
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Breakin Stuff
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:11:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Tweaksz wrote:LIES!!! Lately my APEX GalAssault has been shredding shotty scouts. So you, dear sir, are very much incorrect in your statement. You sir are stuuuuupid. Gallentes are fast enough to keep up with scouts. Ammars on the other hand are NOT. Therefor making the ammar sentinel at an extreme disadvantage. S T U P I D Dude, this topic died a month ago for a reason. threadomancy is a dark art, not practiced by well-meaning and intelligent sh*tposters. never to late, besides shotguns are still Overpowered. If not the shotgun then the suit is way to ****** fast
If it wasn't too fast it'd be useless. Go home. You're drunk.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6869
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:15:00 -
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Nope, the shotgun is only good if they close in on you and if you're smart enough to not be fooled by the cloak then it will be impossible to kill fr the front. Also it is impossible to use on anything but a speed tanking suit because it is useless unless you are up close to people.
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And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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HOLY PERFECTION
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:18:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Nope, the shotgun is only good if they close in on you and if you're smart enough to not be fooled by the cloak then it will be impossible to kill fr the front. Also it is impossible to use on anything but a speed tanking suit because it is useless unless you are up close to people.
you got to see it through an ammar sentinals eyes. Im to slow to even look around, I have to focus in front of me |
Vlad Rostok
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
53
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:24:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Nope, the shotgun is only good if they close in on you and if you're smart enough to not be fooled by the cloak then it will be impossible to kill fr the front. Also it is impossible to use on anything but a speed tanking suit because it is useless unless you are up close to people.
In all seriousness, what is the shotgun's range? I keep hearing/reading this 4 feet nonsense, but I've been killed by SG scouts at over 10 meters, back-pedalling for all I'm worth. |
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