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Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2014.12.07 10:19:00 -
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Very true Mina. Range amps are still being nerfed too much however, at least in my opinion. I don't see anyone using them in 1.10.
I agree with why they needed nerfing. With the 1.10 EWAR numbers being as they are, the short range scans would have been far too powerful with original range amps. Precision mods aren't needed for short scans as the base precision is so strong.
I have my own ideas for tweaking the numbers, though I agree we should wait and see how 1.10 EWAR pans out.
For my ideas, the community needs to decide whether, in principle, it would be acceptable for a logi with 3 precision mods and 3 range amps, to have around 13db scans at around 15m.
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Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2014.12.07 15:10:00 -
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Range amps aren't used much at the moment at a 45% bonus. I say keep them at 45% but add a range penalty to precision mods. Or a precision penalty to range mods. The problem is the combination of the two. |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2014.12.07 17:44:00 -
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Range amps to highs might be good. Stops the deadly combination of range and precision. For my numbers I was looking at a 10-15% range penalty for precision mods.
Short range scans need to be 65% precision not 50%, this would actually require the use of more than one precision mod to scan scouts at short range. I was looking at a 3 precision 3 range amp logi as an example. Min scouts would need the 15% profile bonus as well. |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2014.12.07 19:50:00 -
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It has to be the 6 module investment, at least 3 range amps, because that it the point at which stacking penalties make further investment unproductive.
Don't forget scans are shared with the squad, a logi will often be surrounded by heavies, tries to avoid direct combat and will still have the use of thier equipment slots - their greatest strength.
I'm talking about buffing the max range of 1.10 short range scans, at the expense of the need to fit more precision mods to beat highly damped scouts. |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2014.12.11 12:27:00 -
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Four things to do to fix this:
1) Put them back to 45%, or a flat bonus, don't mind as long as it is worthwhile. They were barely used before the changes.
2) Make them high slot modules. This stops people from getting ridiculous passive scans by maxing precision in highs and range in lows. It also would be nice to have more high slot options (code breakers in highs too kthx).
3) Change the inner ring scan precision to something that actually requires precision mods. Like say, 65% precision.
4) Give Minmatar scouts the same profile reduction bonus as Gallente and Caldari scouts. You just can't balance this stuff if some are better at dampening than others. |
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