Was just in an ambush match and framerate dropped below 10 again.

This is unbearable.

Please add performance improvements to your roadmap for the next release with a importance level of "Critical - Must do".

If you are telling me that you don't have framerate issues you are flat out lying.

And, no, I don't think that Logi bandwidth and with this less equipment spam will solve this.

Sorry guys, but I'm not interested in any workarounds which require doing anything to the hardware whatsoever.

I know from a friend who has a SSD that it will only affect loading times but framerate is completely unaffected.

I don't have any problems in any other game on my PS3 but Dust.

Framerate drops can happen even in the first match after booting the PS3.

I have re-installed Dust last week, not gonna do it again because it does not help at all.

I have set both effects and texture details to low.

I will not reduce display resolution.

The problem is not on my end. The problem is Dust and this has to be fixed. This is critical.

Sorry guys, but I'm not interested in any workarounds which require doing anything to the hardware whatsoever.

I know from a friend who has a SSD that it will only affect loading times but framerate is completely unaffected.

I don't have any problems in any other game on my PS3 but Dust.

Framerate drops can happen even in the first match after booting the PS3.

I have re-installed Dust last week, not gonna do it again because it does not help at all.

I have set both effects and texture details to low.

I will not reduce display resolution.

The problem is not on my end. The problem is Dust and this has to be fixed. This is critical.

Is your PS3 hot while you are playing?

Does your fan speed go very high when you are playing?

=> Replace thermal paste in your PS3. It will help.

If not, formatting your PS3 HDD and/or replacing it with a faster HDD (SSD/hybrid drive) could remove framerate drops due to texture loading. Also re-installing Dust 514 seems to improve performance.

Sorry guys, but I'm not interested in any workarounds which require doing anything to the hardware whatsoever.

The problem is not on my end.

^ Placebo effect

Also, it seems like you dont want to do anything but crying that CCPs game is bad?

Please deposit your ISK into my wallet before you biomass your character.

How do you define "hot"?

Of course it gets warm after using it for a while but it does not get so hot that I feel pain when I touch it, so the temperature should be < 45-50-¦C, of course the temperature inside will be slightly higher, but still this should be fine.

It also has lots of room around it so the heat can escape freely.

I've also added some rubberfeet to it a while ago, so it is always ~1cm off the ground as well.

Plus, like I said, Dust is the only game where framerate drops are an issue.

I don't know and I don't care if it is related to the graphics quality (which is much worse than most games on the PS3) or related to networking issues.

This has been an issue for quite a while now, and I get excited everytime I see "performance improvements" in the patchnotes only to then be disappointed because nothing has changed. But maybe it's my own fault for getting excited about **** like that.


Right, a paying customer is complaining about an ongoing issue of a product and only because I refuse to make modifications to the hardware of my PS3 automatically means that I am just crying for no reason and that everything is totally fine.

Go troll someone else.

I'm not trolling.

The fact is, Dust might not have the best performance (putting high load on the CPU and GPU). This coupled with Sony decreasing the fan speed in the PS3 firmware little by little with every update (LINK) could explain why some players barely have framerate drops, and others have extreme drops. Especially when it is a known fact that:
1. PS3 thermal paste is very bad, it dries up and loses out on thermal conductivity quickly.
2. Having your ps3 standing vertically can make the thermal paste "melt" and flow down from the cpu.

Replacing the thermal paste is NOT a placebo effect. Its proven to give you better performance (if you have heat problems). SSD greatly improves texture and model loading times.

Sorry guys, but I'm not interested in any workarounds which require doing anything to the hardware whatsoever.

I know from a friend who has a SSD that it will only affect loading times but framerate is completely unaffected.

I don't have any problems in any other game on my PS3 but Dust.

Framerate drops can happen even in the first match after booting the PS3.

I have re-installed Dust last week, not gonna do it again because it does not help at all.

I have set both effects and texture details to low.

I will not reduce display resolution.

The problem is not on my end. The problem is Dust and this has to be fixed. This is critical.

Is your PS3 hot while you are playing?

Does your fan speed go very high when you are playing?

=> Replace thermal paste in your PS3. It will help.

If not, formatting your PS3 HDD and/or replacing it with a faster HDD (SSD/hybrid drive) could remove framerate drops due to texture loading. Also re-installing Dust 514 seems to improve performance.

Was just in an ambush match and framerate dropped below 10 again.

This is unbearable.

Please add performance improvements to your roadmap for the next release with a importance level of "Critical - Must do".

If you are telling me that you don't have framerate issues you are flat out lying.

And, no, I don't think that Logi bandwidth and with this less equipment spam will solve this.

You can choose to believe me or not but I don't have any issues with frame rates on my PS3. The PC matches I've played, I've not seen any of the issues that many have described. The worst thing that's ever happened is that maybe the sound has been out of sync a little because of the Hive spams playing hell with the 5.1. I've not experienced rubber banding, LAVs pausing in the air or 30 metre teleport jumps.

The texture and Map loading improved with the SSD as I expected that's why I brought it. Didn't expect a frame rate increase from it because it wouldn't effect that. The thermal paste switch was something I'd heard could improve the PS3 performance so I had a afternoon off, some spare TIM cleaner and paste and thought I'd have a crack at it. PS 3 runs much quieter now, not only on Dust but The Last Of Use and Wipeout HD, the only other games I have for it. Almost certainly due to the GPU now having full contact with the heat sink.

I've heard that there are many different variants of PS3 as Sony often swap and change component suppliers to minimise costs. That might be a contributory factor as well. When I get the chance I might borrow a couple of friends PS3 and spend a day comparing their Dust performance in my set up compared to theirs and compare my PS3 on their set up. Has anyone done anything similar to that themselves in the last?

SOURCE: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2490947#post2490947

CCP is not responsible for your failing hardware.

(I might look like a real f*cking CCP fanboy right now, but yeah... have fun lagging around while me and Dennie experience smoother over all gameplay)

do you even dust? every merc knows your supposed to make swiss cheese out of your PS3 housing, wrap the CPU in tin foil (use an old hat) solder an old coat hanger to the motherboard and replace the wiring installation with duct tape.

it's not the game bro it's just your PS3 hasn't been modified to play it

Being a PC gamer for 15+yrs now I totally get where you're coming from and sure the PS3 hardware isn't the greatest we all know this. CCP knows this, hence Legion and the stalemate that is Dust.. But CCP being a developer developing for a specific set of hardware they have an obligation to develop to those hardware specifications. CCP can't say oh sorry our game runs like **** because Sony's console is **** although I'd love to read the transcript between Sony and CCP if that ever was the case..

What I think the majority of us are getting at is even though those few tweaks you mentioned may make a system run quite or a bit faster on loading times there is no reason this should HAVE to be done in order to have a stable "flagship" CCP game on the system promised..

If Legion ever comes out for PC and I'm having performance problems I'll try every suggestion you mentioned but that's because that is the nature of PCs. Consoles on the other hand are a single entity not designed to be tweaked or upgraded and we shouldn't have to be discussing such if CCP did their job correctly in the first place...

Replacing the thermal paste is NOT a placebo effect. Its proven to give you better performance (if you have heat problems). SSD greatly improves texture and model loading times.

Nah your suffering from placebo effect....


The other day our squad was approaching the new socket... Half of us have SSD's the other half doesn't... The City wouldn't render in for all of us at a certain distance.. We all tested at what range it rendered.. It was the same for all of us..

Even when you go back to your mercenary quarters and your looking at your mercenary load in... It goes through three phases as it loads in... This has nothing to do with a SSD. Or some magical paste.

no other game do you have to stand on your head whisper 3 times, blow on the disc and hold the controller just right in order to play the god damn game at a decent frame rate

If you are telling me that you don't have framerate issues you are flat out lying.

You clearly have some some issues as far as the frame rate is concerned and I've brought them to the attention of CCP, who will then hopefully put some action plan in place to investigate what can be done.

But I have to say that accusing people of flat out lying when they offer a contradictory view to your own is just not cool.

I don't what else I can say to you. I don't have frame rate issues, the game runs at a near consistent 28-30 frames per second for me. Lag isn't a problem either, if I put the battle server choice as auto, America, Asia or Europe, all run as well as the others. That said I'll agree with what someone else mentioned earlier about playing the French, which just tells my that French ISP's aren't very good. Ping is the biggest issue in gaming online. Mine varies between 8 to 14, if any of you test yours and find it more than 75 then switch ISP because I get that on my 3G smartphone. Fine for mobile use, blows for online gaming.

The SSD is a factor in load up times and texture rendering, it doesnt effect frame rate. I've confirmed that with switching the old standard PS3 HD that I had before. The thermal paste switch I did significantly reduced the thermal load on the Cell chip and the GPU. It didn't increase frame rate as such but due to the better heat conductivity to the heat sink, allowing the fan to do a better job, it has improved the systems performance overall and reduced the chances of YLOD happening. Overheating is the number one cause of YLOD in PS3.

I don't doubt that there are players out there having problems but I also don't doubt there players out there that don't have these problems. There are at least two dozen PS3 configurations out there, each one made from various components from different manufacturers (the conceit that consoles are a unified experience is a fallacy, hardware configurations change all the time) mean that anyone of these configuations may perform better or worse than others but still fall within the specifications of the format.

I've brought it to attention of Rattati, linked this and several other threads to the team. I'll keep asking and pushing for improvements and I won't let them forget.

But please don't accuse me of lying because I don't have the same issues you're having. It's just counterproductive.

You clearly have some some issues as far as the frame rate is concerned and I've brought them to the attention of CCP, who will then hopefully put some action plan in place to investigate what can be done.

Good. Thanks.

But I have to say that accusing people of flat out lying when they offer a contradictory view to your own is just not cool.

I have not played with a single person that did not have framerate issues every now and then. So when people come to me and try to tell me that everything is fine and that the problem must be on my end, I'm sorry, but I tend to lose it a bit.

I don't have frame rate issues, the game runs at a near consistent 28-30 frames per second for me.

It's fine for me as well ~most of the time~. But every now and then I get into a match where at some point framerate drops so low that it is hard to continue playing.
Frame rate drops also seem to be related to playing against people from other regions, which dosn't make much sense to me. I'd understand to have lag, but not a drop in frame rate.

I don't doubt that there are players out there having problems but I also don't doubt there players out there that don't have these problems. There are at least two dozen PS3 configurations out there

And DUST seems to be the only game that I've played that has issues with that so far.
Look, I understand that it's hard to make it right for evey configuration there is. But you also have to understand that this is not a new issue. This has been ongoing for as long as I can remember.
I did not mind poor performance in closed beta, and during open beta my biggest hope for Uprising was fps improvements. I did not mind when performance improvements were not their biggest problems when Uprising was released.
But after 1.5 years after official release there are still frame rate issues and it seems that we still are far away from any fix to it. I'm sorry but I'm getting a bit upset about this lately.

I've brought it to attention of Rattati, linked this and several other threads to the team. I'll keep asking and pushing for improvements and I won't let them forget.

Thanks.

But please don't accuse me of lying because I don't have the same issues you're having. It's just counterproductive.

But then again, coming into a thread where people are calling for help because of an issue only to say "nope, all fine on my end",
or advise them to make modifications to the hardware, no matter how small (btw, if you **** it up with applying new thermal paste you might in the worst case even make your PS3 break sooner),
or advise them to change their ISPs (which might not be possible for some people for various reasons)
isn't too helpful either, don't you agree? Especially when these issues are only related to this one game.

Also there might be differences in perception of this issue. For some people playing a shooter game at only 28fps might be fine, for me it's really pushing it already. But if the frame rate drops below that on a regular basis we very quickly come to a point where the game becomes close to unplayable. A lower frame rate means that your aiming will suffer, your timing will suffer, your precision will suffer. Frame rate is so important for shooter games but in Dust we have seen little (perceived) progress to fixing it so far.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. LODing had nothing to do with framerate drops due to overheating. It is a feature you add in games to improve the framerate.

What you are seeing is working as intended probably. Discrete LODing at different ranges.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_detail

#PCMasterRace

I have a SSD and can confirm that what Jesus is saying is 100% correct.

-snip-.

The game runs perfect for me. No lag, no frame drops. None.



Clean your ps3 if you want better performance.

It ran good for me in the past. Was thinking it might be something on my end, but a lot of people seem to be having issues. Its been worse in 1.9. And even worse more recently.

SOURCE: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2490947#post2490947

CCP is not responsible for your failing hardware.

(I might look like a real f*cking CCP fanboy right now, but yeah... have fun lagging around while me and Dennie experience smoother over all gameplay)

You clearly have some some issues as far as the frame rate is concerned and I've brought them to the attention of CCP, who will then hopefully put some action plan in place to investigate what can be done.

But I have to say that accusing people of flat out lying when they offer a contradictory view to your own is just not cool.

I don't what else I can say to you. I don't have frame rate issues, the game runs at a near consistent 28-30 frames per second for me. Lag isn't a problem either, if I put the battle server choice as auto, America, Asia or Europe, all run as well as the others. That said I'll agree with what someone else mentioned earlier about playing the French, which just tells my that French ISP's aren't very good. Ping is the biggest issue in gaming online. Mine varies between 8 to 14, if any of you test yours and find it more than 75 then switch ISP because I get that on my 3G smartphone. Fine for mobile use, blows for online gaming.

The SSD is a factor in load up times and texture rendering, it doesnt effect frame rate. I've confirmed that with switching the old standard PS3 HD that I had before. The thermal paste switch I did significantly reduced the thermal load on the Cell chip and the GPU. It didn't increase frame rate as such but due to the better heat conductivity to the heat sink, allowing the fan to do a better job, it has improved the systems performance overall and reduced the chances of YLOD happening. Overheating is the number one cause of YLOD in PS3.

I don't doubt that there are players out there having problems but I also don't doubt there players out there that don't have these problems. There are at least two dozen PS3 configurations out there, each one made from various components from different manufacturers (the conceit that consoles are a unified experience is a fallacy, hardware configurations change all the time) mean that anyone of these configuations may perform better or worse than others but still fall within the specifications of the format.

I've brought it to attention of Rattati, linked this and several other threads to the team. I'll keep asking and pushing for improvements and I won't let them forget.

But please don't accuse me of lying because I don't have the same issues you're having. It's just counterproductive.