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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.12.04 10:55:00 -
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Is your PS3 hot while you are playing?
Does your fan speed go very high when you are playing?
=> Replace thermal paste in your PS3. It will help.
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.12.04 13:15:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Sorry guys, but I'm not interested in any workarounds which require doing anything to the hardware whatsoever.
Ok Mr. fancy pants.
Jebus McKing wrote:The problem is not on my end.
You never disclosed if your PS3 is getting hot. Did you check it?
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.12.04 13:16:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Is your PS3 hot while you are playing?
Does your fan speed go very high when you are playing?
=> Replace thermal paste in your PS3. It will help.
If not, formatting your PS3 HDD and/or replacing it with a faster HDD (SSD/hybrid drive) could remove framerate drops due to texture loading. Also re-installing Dust 514 seems to improve performance. ^ Placebo effect
Replacing the thermal paste is NOT a placebo effect. Its proven to give you better performance (if you have heat problems). SSD greatly improves texture and model loading times.
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.12.04 13:21:00 -
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Also, it seems like you dont want to do anything but crying that CCPs game is bad?
Please deposit your ISK into my wallet before you biomass your character.
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Posted - 2014.12.04 13:48:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:How do you define "hot"? Of course it gets warm after using it for a while but it does not get so hot that I feel pain when I touch it, so the temperature should be < 45-50-ŚC, of course the temperature inside will be slightly higher, but still this should be fine. It also has lots of room around it so the heat can escape freely. I've also added some rubberfeet to it a while ago, so it is always ~1cm off the ground as well. Plus, like I said, Dust is the only game where framerate drops are an issue. I don't know and I don't care if it is related to the graphics quality (which is much worse than most games on the PS3) or related to networking issues. This has been an issue for quite a while now, and I get excited everytime I see "performance improvements" in the patchnotes only to then be disappointed because nothing has changed. But maybe it's my own fault for getting excited about **** like that.  Spectral Clone wrote:Also, it seems like you dont want to do anything but crying that CCPs game is bad?
Please deposit your ISK into my wallet before you biomass your character. Right, a paying customer is complaining about an ongoing issue of a product and only because I refuse to make modifications to the hardware of my PS3 automatically means that I am just crying for no reason and that everything is totally fine. Go troll someone else.
I'm not trolling.
The fact is, Dust might not have the best performance (putting high load on the CPU and GPU). This coupled with Sony decreasing the fan speed in the PS3 firmware little by little with every update (LINK) could explain why some players barely have framerate drops, and others have extreme drops. Especially when it is a known fact that:
1. PS3 thermal paste is very bad, it dries up and loses out on thermal conductivity quickly.
2. Having your ps3 standing vertically can make the thermal paste "melt" and flow down from the cpu.
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Posted - 2014.12.04 14:25:00 -
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The worst thing is that the older fat PS3 or early PS3 slim models are affected most by overheat problems. So if you got a PS3 fat, the firmware updates will make it a lot worse for you.
I-Śm not sure which models CCP test their code on, its probably PS3 super slim, since you cant really buy PS3 slim and PS3 Fat any more.
Super slim has the best cooling of all of the three variants. Just sayin'.
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Posted - 2014.12.04 15:07:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:You can choose to believe me or not but I don't have any issues with frame rates on my PS3. The PC matches I've played, I've not seen any of the issues that many have described. The worst thing that's ever happened is that maybe the sound has been out of sync a little because of the Hive spams playing hell with the 5.1. I've not experienced rubber banding, LAVs pausing in the air or 30 metre teleport jumps.
The texture and Map loading improved with the SSD as I expected that's why I brought it. Didn't expect a frame rate increase from it because it wouldn't effect that. The thermal paste switch was something I'd heard could improve the PS3 performance so I had a afternoon off, some spare TIM cleaner and paste and thought I'd have a crack at it. PS 3 runs much quieter now, not only on Dust but The Last Of Use and Wipeout HD, the only other games I have for it. Almost certainly due to the GPU now having full contact with the heat sink.
I've heard that there are many different variants of PS3 as Sony often swap and change component suppliers to minimise costs. That might be a contributory factor as well. When I get the chance I might borrow a couple of friends PS3 and spend a day comparing their Dust performance in my set up compared to theirs and compare my PS3 on their set up. Has anyone done anything similar to that themselves in the last?
SOURCE: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2490947#post2490947
CCP is not responsible for your failing hardware.
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:12:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:do you even dust? every merc knows your supposed to make swiss cheese out of your PS3 housing, wrap the CPU in tin foil (use an old hat) solder an old coat hanger to the motherboard and replace the wiring installation with duct tape.
it's not the game bro it's just your PS3 hasn't been modified to play it
DO YOU EVEN DUST BRO.
My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:15:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Being a PC gamer for 15+yrs now I totally get where you're coming from and sure the PS3 hardware isn't the greatest we all know this. CCP knows this, hence Legion and the stalemate that is Dust.. But CCP being a developer developing for a specific set of hardware they have an obligation to develop to those hardware specifications. CCP can't say oh sorry our game runs like **** because Sony's console is **** although I'd love to read the transcript between Sony and CCP if that ever was the case.. What I think the majority of us are getting at is even though those few tweaks you mentioned may make a system run quite or a bit faster on loading times there is no reason this should HAVE to be done in order to have a stable "flagship" CCP game on the system promised.. If Legion ever comes out for PC and I'm having performance problems I'll try every suggestion you mentioned but that's because that is the nature of PCs. Consoles on the other hand are a single entity not designed to be tweaked or upgraded and we shouldn't have to be discussing such if CCP did their job correctly in the first place...
Well, everyone is different.
I have probably spent $100 and MANY hours to modify my PS3. GIMX adapter for better kb/m input, cooling mods for better framerate. For someone who dont enjoy modding so much, it might still be worth it to open up the ps3 and replace the thermal paste. Its max 2 hours of work, and will save your hardware from YLOD in the future, its not just for Dust.
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.12.05 10:32:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:
Nah your suffering from placebo effect....
The other day our squad was approaching the new socket... Half of us have SSD's the other half doesn't... The City wouldn't render in for all of us at a certain distance.. We all tested at what range it rendered.. It was the same for all of us..
Even when you go back to your mercenary quarters and your looking at your mercenary load in... It goes through three phases as it loads in... This has nothing to do with a SSD. Or some magical paste.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. LODing had nothing to do with framerate drops due to overheating. It is a feature you add in games to improve the framerate.
What you are seeing is working as intended probably. Discrete LODing at different ranges.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_detail
#PCMasterRace
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.12.05 12:12:00 -
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Just like Kevall tells you, the thermal paste will not make the framerate go above 30, but its going to help on the lower side (framerate drops). Especially if the cores are overheating.
Look at this video for an extreme example of thermal throttling and CPU breakdown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y39D4529FM4
If air enters the distance between chip and heatsink, you get a thermal isolation layer. This is not equivalent but close to removing the heat sink all together.
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
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Posted - 2014.12.05 18:51:00 -
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Well, with my mods (thermal paste, drilled ventilation holes, laptop cooling plate, fan controller and SSD which I have had for a long time) I am now experiencing better performance in CQC fights. Sure, I do not have much statistics or recordings to prove it. You just have to believe me.
Perhaps my PS3 was starting to break down though. Not sure.
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
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