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Mortishai Belmont wrote:

Eruditus 920 wrote:

Mortishai Belmont wrote:

They made grenades for a reason... Also, kind of the role of a heavy to defend a point like that, or siege a point that's being too well defended.

Also teamwork is OP, try it out when your having trouble c:

Grenades? You would be HMG shredded before it left your hand, and if it did then nothing happens anyway.

You must be a heavy.

How many times have I read "teamwork is OP" from a heavy trying to keep their play style from being nerfed and "eyes are OP" from scouts doing the same?

Grenades?

And you have obviously never played as a heavy.

I go down from a shotgun with 3 hits before I can start to turn around. 80% of my deaths come from remote bunnies. I've been killed fairly well by every weapon the game has to offer at one point or another.

Just ask yourself what's the difference between the people killing proto heavies with those guns and you.

Your one of those people who thinks it's logical to stand in front of a MINIGUN and live huh? Why don't you take the time to check out youtube and see what one actually can do.

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hfderrtgvcd 1405	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:12:00 - [1] - Quote There is a squad of heavies and logis on an objective that you need to take. The letter is closed from all but two angles, neither of which can be fired through from range. The top of the objective is covered and there are no vantage points with los on the objective. What do you do? You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5205	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:14:00 - [2] - Quote Fire MD rounds from a distance. The sentinels will laugh at my pathetic attempt at harming them, but it might kill one or two of the logis and it will destroy the metric fucktonne of equipment they probably have ** out everywhere. Notice I don't push the objective? That's because the objective is lost to me. I am just hoping to wrack up some WP's before the inevitable DEFEAT screen. Afterwards I will ******** and shitpost on the forums. My advice to you, playa...
pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 983	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:15:00 - [3] - Quote Send there a squad of heavies and logis... And this is exactly the problem One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5579	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:16:00 - [4] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: There is a squad of heavies and logis on an objective that you need to take. The letter is closed from all but two angles, neither of which can be fired through from range. The top of the objective is covered and there are no vantage points with los on the objective. What do you do? RE spam or PLC bombardment. Or I brick up a six kin burst HMG. But no, there's no counter that doesn't involve spamming your own fatties or RE douchery. It's one of the things I hate and want to find a way to fix. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
hfderrtgvcd 1405	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:16:00 - [5] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Fire MD rounds from a distance. The sentinels will laugh at my pathetic attempt at harming them, but it might kill one or two of the logis and it will destroy the metric fucktonne of equipment they probably have **** out everywhere. Still can't take the objective with 4 tanked sentinels on it. I'm also very vulnerable to other suits since there are no high spots from which I can fire into the objective. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4767	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:18:00 - [6] - Quote That new map with the indoor objective? I make a suicide run, dropping down that little air vent or whatever it is in the back with a cloaked/damped BPO scout and blow the place the f*ck up with RE's. Might throw a grenade or two if I survive long enough. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19721	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:18:00 - [7] - Quote AFK in the MCC until they leave out of boredom. Or until the match ends and I get the same reward. vOv The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5205	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:18:00 - [8] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Still can't take the objective with 4 tanked sentinels on it. I'm also very vulnerable to other suits since there are no high spots from which I can fire into the objective. Who said anything about taking the objective? That objective is lost to me. I'm just improving my EoM ranking at this point. My advice to you, playa...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15284	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:23:00 - [9] - Quote Leave that squad to rot. They'll be too slow to react to much other than the objective. Perhaps do the occasional flanking run and kite then at range to pick off their logi. Perhaps if you can land and RE on them then you could take out 1 or even 2 of the sentinels. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 975	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:24:00 - [10] - Quote PLC everywhere. Quafe Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V

KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5998	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:29:00 - [11] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: There is a squad of heavies and logis on an objective that you need to take. The letter is closed from all but two angles, neither of which can be fired through from range. The top of the objective is covered and there are no vantage points with los on the objective. What do you do? According to this community: Get a scout suit,equip Dampeners as the only modules, equip a shotgun and go to town. HAHAHA.... Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2227	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:31:00 - [12] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Fire MD rounds from a distance. The sentinels will laugh at my pathetic attempt at harming them, but it might kill one or two of the logis and it will destroy the metric fucktonne of equipment they probably have ** out everywhere. Notice I don't push the objective? That's because the objective is lost to me. I am just hoping to wrack up some WP's before the inevitable DEFEAT screen. Afterwards I will ****** and shitpost on the forums. the sentinels will laugh till they realize the LOGI HAS DIED to splash damage BECAUSE LOGI EHP SUCKS and THEN they will start to feel the pain. other alternative is suicide scout with adv/proto RE's and spam them all around the point and pop them killing yourself and several fatties and 2 gimps #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]**
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2227	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:33:00 - [13] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: That new map socket with the deep indoor objective? I make a suicide run, dropping down that little air vent or whatever it is in the back with a cloaked/damped BPO scout and blow the place the fck up with RE's. Might throw a grenade or two if I survive long enough. (Edit: Only in domination. In skirmish just ignore them. Not worth it) that deep indoor one is good to assault with MD minmandos till you get enough WP for an orbital and then BOOOM! +50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50+5+5+5+5+5+5+5+5+50+50+50+50+50 and so on... #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]*
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 250	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:39:00 - [14] - Quote They made grenades for a reason... Also, kind of the role of a heavy to defend a point like that, or siege a point that's being too well defended. Also teamwork is OP, try it out when your having trouble c: G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3678	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:43:00 - [15] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: There is a squad of heavies and logis on an objective that you need to take. The letter is closed from all but two angles, neither of which can be fired through from range. The top of the objective is covered and there are no vantage points with los on the objective. What do you do? RE spam or PLC bombardment. Or I brick up a six kin burst HMG. But no, there's no counter that doesn't involve spamming your own fatties or RE douchery. It's one of the things I hate and want to find a way to fix. Plasma Cannon is seriously the best way to deal with the meat wall. Even heavily tanked armor Sentinels will be put to near death by a direct hit. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 930	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:49:00 - [16] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: They made grenades for a reason... Also, kind of the role of a heavy to defend a point like that, or siege a point that's being too well defended. Also teamwork is OP, try it out when your having trouble c: Grenades? You would be HMG shredded before it left your hand, and if it did then nothing happens anyway. You must be a heavy. How many times have I read "teamwork is OP" from a heavy trying to keep their play style from being nerfed and "eyes are OP" from scouts doing the same? Grenades? "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 250	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:02:00 - [17] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: They made grenades for a reason... Also, kind of the role of a heavy to defend a point like that, or siege a point that's being too well defended. Also teamwork is OP, try it out when your having trouble c: Grenades? You would be HMG shredded before it left your hand, and if it did then nothing happens anyway. You must be a heavy. How many times have I read "teamwork is OP" from a heavy trying to keep their play style from being nerfed and "eyes are OP" from scouts doing the same? Grenades? And you have obviously never played as a heavy. I go down from a shotgun with 3 hits before I can start to turn around. 80% of my deaths come from remote bunnies. I've been killed fairly well by every weapon the game has to offer at one point or another. Just ask yourself what's the difference between the people killing proto heavies with those guns and you. Your one of those people who thinks it's logical to stand in front of a MINIGUN and live huh? Why don't you take the time to check out youtube and see what one actually can do. G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2379	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:14:00 - [18] - Quote Outnumber or outthink or outskill them. Take your pick. Outnumbering and outskilling them are both fairly straightforward. Outthinking them entails engaging them in one direction, then attacking them from the other direction once you have their back.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 366	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:20:00 - [19] - Quote "Fight fire with fire." Commando A/1-Series, approach with caution. Or just run away screaming. It is not advised to attack unless in Sentinel.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17915	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:22:00 - [20] - Quote Indirect fire weapons with direct fire weapons support to force them out of position. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked

KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6002	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:59:00 - [21] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: They made grenades for a reason... Also, kind of the role of a heavy to defend a point like that, or siege a point that's being too well defended. Also teamwork is OP, try it out when your having trouble c: -Sentinels laugh at Splash damage such as grenades. SPECIALLY Caldari Sents. -Teamwork is OP, but it shouldnt be needed to enjoy a game. -IT IS the role of a heavy to defend a point! good for you. Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 547	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:01:00 - [22] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: They made grenades for a reason... Also, kind of the role of a heavy to defend a point like that, or siege a point that's being too well defended. Also teamwork is OP, try it out when your having trouble c: -Sentinels laugh at Splash damage such as grenades. SPECIALLY Caldari Sents. -Teamwork is OP, but it shouldnt be needed to enjoy a game. -IT IS the role of a heavy to defend a point! good for you. By this way of thinking [last sentence] there's no place for assaults/commandos in towns [PC] Well.. it already looks like this. And it's stupid. As to OP. The only counter would be to use sentiniels and logis as they did. But if X can be only countered by other X, it's broken PS. X = suit,playstyle Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 930	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:10:00 - [23] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: They made grenades for a reason... Also, kind of the role of a heavy to defend a point like that, or siege a point that's being too well defended. Also teamwork is OP, try it out when your having trouble c: Grenades? You would be HMG shredded before it left your hand, and if it did then nothing happens anyway. You must be a heavy. How many times have I read "teamwork is OP" from a heavy trying to keep their play style from being nerfed and "eyes are OP" from scouts doing the same? Grenades? And you have obviously never played as a heavy. I go down from a shotgun with 3 hits before I can start to turn around. 80% of my deaths come from remote bunnies. I've been killed fairly well by every weapon the game has to offer at one point or another. Just ask yourself what's the difference between the people killing proto heavies with those guns and you. Your one of those people who thinks it's logical to stand in front of a MINIGUN and live huh? Why don't you take the time to check out youtube and see what one actually can do. You presume too much. I have played every role in this game. Since I play as a scout I know you are bullshiiting about not turning around before 3 SG hits. 2 is the sweet spot. If you can't take down the sentinel in 2 SG hits the engagement becomes a 50/50 endeavor. If 80% of your deaths are to RE's then you are the best DUST 514 player in history. Again more bullshiite. From your post you seem 10-15ish so I feel kind of guilty pointing out your stupidity. But you brought it upon yourself dumbass. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4244	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:27:00 - [24] - Quote Fly a tank in there and jump out with a group of Ion Pistol users.
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4832	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:32:00 - [25] - Quote Mass driver Barrage followed by a dual shotgun pincer attack with riflemen waiting outside and taking any shots they can. They Mass drivers should damage and disorient, shotguns should kill fairly well and drive some out to be taken down by rifles. On paper. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 442	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:36:00 - [26] - Quote Mass Drivers, Plasma Cannons, REs at the door for when they run out. Enter and camp any uplinks that survive.
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 876	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:51:00 - [27] - Quote take control of all the other objectives around. if they leave. pick em off.. since they have such a high defense for that one area. taking the rest should be a hell of a lot easier. the other solution is to grab the entire team to do a full on bum rush to the objective. im sure lots of you may die in the process but they may get overwhelmed and finally be pushed out. ADD PVE CCP!!! WE HAVE BEEN SCREAMING THIS FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 910	Posted - 2014.12.02 01:05:00 - [28] - Quote This is the kind of scenario when the new orbital strikes would be really useful: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2434073#post2434073 The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1909	Posted - 2014.12.02 01:07:00 - [29] - Quote Have friend set RE's to the front of an Lav, drive it in and have him pop the re's Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Miles O'Rourke Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 15	Posted - 2014.12.02 01:21:00 - [30] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: That new map socket with the deep indoor objective? I make a suicide run, dropping down that little air vent or whatever it is in the back with a cloaked/damped BPO scout and blow the place the f*ck up with RE's. Might throw a grenade or two if I survive long enough. (Edit: Only in domination. In skirmish just ignore them. Not worth it) I've seen cloaked BPO scouts go in through the ai rvent with Flux Grenades to fry the equipment, specifically targeting the Uplinks, while the front door was covered by a couple of PLC and MD Commandos. Once the Uplinks are gone and the Logi start to fall, it was only a matter of time. I used to be a Squad Lead like you, but then I took a Thale's to the knee.



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