DUST Search - How do you counter this?

Mortishai Belmont wrote:

Eruditus 920 wrote:

Mortishai Belmont wrote:

Eruditus 920 wrote:

Mortishai Belmont wrote:

They made grenades for a reason... Also, kind of the role of a heavy to defend a point like that, or siege a point that's being too well defended.

Also teamwork is OP, try it out when your having trouble c:

Grenades? You would be HMG shredded before it left your hand, and if it did then nothing happens anyway.

You must be a heavy.

How many times have I read "teamwork is OP" from a heavy trying to keep their play style from being nerfed and "eyes are OP" from scouts doing the same?

Grenades?

And you have obviously never played as a heavy.

I go down from a shotgun with 3 hits before I can start to turn around. 80% of my deaths come from remote bunnies. I've been killed fairly well by every weapon the game has to offer at one point or another.

Just ask yourself what's the difference between the people killing proto heavies with those guns and you.

Your one of those people who thinks it's logical to stand in front of a MINIGUN and live huh? Why don't you take the time to check out youtube and see what one actually can do.

You presume too much.

I have played every role in this game.

Since I play as a scout I know you are bullshiiting about not turning around before 3 SG hits. 2 is the sweet spot. If you can't take down the sentinel in 2 SG hits the engagement becomes a 50/50 endeavor.

If 80% of your deaths are to RE's then you are the best DUST 514 player in history. Again more bullshiite.

From your post you seem 10-15ish so I feel kind of guilty pointing out your stupidity.

But you brought it upon yourself dumbass.

If the only real thing you can contribute to the conversation are insults, i dont believe I'm the child here c:

Go take an english class and learn how to interact with people or get some manners.

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Hyuan BubblePOP Uber Wanabes 17	Posted - 2014.12.02 01:58:00 - [31] - Quote Forge gun, skin burst hmg heavies galmandos with PLC,burst AR,SG Minmandos with MD,ACR core locus nades/ Remote explosives tanks/ADS/LAV SCR,RR,BP nova knifing minjas! hell u can even take out a heavy with 2 to 3 complex myrofill fitted. lots to use in game to kill heavies ...........
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 118	Posted - 2014.12.02 03:27:00 - [32] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: There is a squad of heavies and logis on an objective that you need to take. The letter is closed from all but two angles, neither of which can be fired through from range. The top of the objective is covered and there are no vantage points with los on the objective. What do you do? Flux assault mds..on logis chain repping heavies and giving cover fire I have a breaching logi just for this ..flux assault md breach smg nanohive..Uplink repair tool..ona amar logi Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4771	Posted - 2014.12.02 03:33:00 - [33] - Quote Miles O'Rourke wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: That new map socket with the deep indoor objective? I make a suicide run, dropping down that little air vent or whatever it is in the back with a cloaked/damped BPO scout and blow the place the f*ck up with RE's. Might throw a grenade or two if I survive long enough. (Edit: Only in domination. In skirmish just ignore them. Not worth it) I've seen cloaked BPO scouts go in through the ai rvent with Flux Grenades to fry the equipment, specifically targeting the Uplinks, while the front door was covered by a couple of PLC and MD Commandos. Once the Uplinks are gone and the Logi start to fall, it was only a matter of time. Yup. Very effective with a little coordination. 1-2 guys with MDs at the front is usually enough diversion to make the scout run easier. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 437	Posted - 2014.12.02 03:39:00 - [34] - Quote cloak scout
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6258	Posted - 2014.12.02 04:06:00 - [35] - Quote A counter? You don't. It would be best to keep them stuck there while you take the rest of the points. If they decide to come out of hiding use a Laser Rifle from a distance at your discretion. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Ydubbs81 Ahrendee Mercenaries 5	Posted - 2014.12.02 04:20:00 - [36] - Quote heavy spam or let them keep it...secure another letter
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4863	Posted - 2014.12.02 04:22:00 - [37] - Quote Fire mah Plasma Cannon, then proceed to take one for the team by chucking REs and blowing everyone, including myself, up.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1286	Posted - 2014.12.02 04:41:00 - [38] - Quote capture and hold the other 4 objectives. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Vesta Opalus Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 210	Posted - 2014.12.02 07:12:00 - [39] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: There is a squad of heavies and logis on an objective that you need to take. The letter is closed from all but two angles, neither of which can be fired through from range. The top of the objective is covered and there are no vantage points with los on the objective. What do you do? I think your point is clear and correct that there is no real counter to this crap except for more of this crap. That said you can use mass drivers and a fireteam to deny more and more of the room to the sentinels and their support until they just have no where else to go. Requires you have competant mass driver people, some guys to dump all over any sentinels who try to push back out, and some guys to cover your butt so the rest of their team doesnt push your pooper in while you are working. So yeah the only counter to barely any teamwork is quite a bit more teamwork. Something needs to be done about the combo I guess, but what would they do without just making another OP mechanic to replace it? It is a mystery.
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 83	Posted - 2014.12.02 07:34:00 - [40] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: There is a squad of heavies and logis on an objective that you need to take. The letter is closed from all but two angles, neither of which can be fired through from range. The top of the objective is covered and there are no vantage points with los on the objective. What do you do? How close are the two angles you have to each other and is the squad grouped together or have they spread themselves out a little? If you can get from one angle to the other relatively quickly then I would throw a Core Locus Grenade at the group of them (aim for the logi) and immediately follow it up by shooting at them; this is done to get their attention. Follow this up with a second round of shots at them but this time allow yourself to take a small amount of damage and then get to cover (the combination of you making more than one engagement with them from the same angle and then you taking cover after taking a little damage will give off the impression that you took cover so that your shield can recharge before you open fire again from this first angle). Immediately run to the second angle and toss a Core Locus Grenade at the weakest person in the group (throw it at the logi if he is not already dead) and immediately open fire and aim for the head. From my experience in this game when you come at squads from multiple angles they tend to get confused on where they should focus so long as you can hit those different angles quickly.

Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2812	Posted - 2014.12.02 07:51:00 - [41] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: he sentinels will laugh till they realize the LOGI HAS DIED to splash damage BECAUSE LOGI EHP SUCKS and THEN they will start to feel the pain. My Amarrian Logi designed for gang operations has 1000EHP and has a proto needle, core rep tool, and the proto hives that i can carry four of. While sustained MD damage will break me down, I'd hardly say my EHP sucks, thanks to maxed core skills. Sadly when paired with my usual proto Amarrian Heavy, we are rarely taken out when set up and entrenched, especially with full squad support. Some objectives is suicide for us to hold, but some others are suicide for those who try and take it from us. shrugs "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 793	Posted - 2014.12.02 07:52:00 - [42] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: There is a squad of heavies and logis on an objective that you need to take. The letter is closed from all but two angles, neither of which can be fired through from range. The top of the objective is covered and there are no vantage points with los on the objective. What do you do? i have played this map and the only way to get in there is multiple suicide runs about 3 or 4 1 jump down vent/hole thing cloaked run to where the obj is and re all their equip 2 jump in again and re the two front corners ext to the front door ( lots of kills) 3 re there equipment again 4 re any remaining people 5 come in as a proto heavy AK.0 and get the fu** in there SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Jack Boost Zarena Family 531	Posted - 2014.12.02 08:19:00 - [43] - Quote This is not to hard at all: - this take only little of coordination, because ppl there are traped. 'Hit and run' is good option here. As heavy HMG here this strategy for attack is good and I even solo can hit one heavy/logi and retreat. If there is more blueberries that do something this is only matter of time to get point. As mid range weapon - there is little roof under ramp abowe point. 1-2 person (assault) there can keep all point under pressure enough to bleed out ppl here. (as you can see only mid weapon needed... no grenade/MD/PLC spam) Heavy don't have range to do harm, and logi are busy. From point are to ways to get in, but you must come out to keep it on sight. When you hide there you are very weak for both way attack. Not much time left...
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 483	Posted - 2014.12.02 08:38:00 - [44] - Quote Well this takes some preparation. - Get uplinks close to the fight. Make sure your troops can respawn faser than thiers. - Carry flux nades - storm area, fluxes and area effect weapons first to kill their equipment.. Make them respawn some where else/ disable any remotes. Heavies/ commandoes lead the charge, followed by assaults and logis. Send scouts elswhere to kill any nearby uplinks an stragglers. Logis set up base, rep and revive survivers, heavies gaurd point, assaults run out prevent the enemey from doing to us what we did to them. That being said, the new caldari production facility in a domination is god awful. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Genral69 death C0NTRA UNIT RUST415 0	Posted - 2014.12.02 10:36:00 - [45] - Quote If your talking about one of the new maps. The one with the train or the funnel of death (the one with depo under ground and the massive 2 silinders) you don't have much options.either u have to go heavy or scout to actually get in there. But personally your best choose would be to use explosive weapons eg massive or the plasma cannon. This can be abit difficult at first. The massdriver is great for splash damage but is terrible in a close incounter and the plasma cannon ots good Av and taking pop shots at heavy. It has a small blast radus but if u get a direct hit it can one shot heavys but its very difficult . Hope this helps
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3375	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:16:00 - [46] - Quote RUsh them with militia suits, will make losing much faster. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2352	Posted - 2014.12.02 14:28:00 - [47] - Quote mass driver, thats all you need Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2152	Posted - 2014.12.02 14:44:00 - [48] - Quote Get a scout, put some hives down, and spam core locus like you never spammed before. You'll destroy the logis and equipment, and soften the heavies up.
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 437	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:20:00 - [49] - Quote Hyuan BubblePOP wrote: Forge gun, skin burst hmg heavies galmandos with PLC,burst AR,SG Minmandos with MD,ACR core locus nades/ Remote explosives tanks/ADS/LAV SCR,RR,BP nova knifing minjas! hell u can even take out a heavy with 2 to 3 complex myrofill fitted. lots to use in game to kill heavies ........... Would love to see a vid of two full squads of minjas running around dropping everything on sight. Like a swarm of locus So mad I could eat a chimichanga, swallow a marble, chug a quafe, bend over, fart, and drop an amarian from 100 meters..
Dauth Jenkins Titans of Phoenix 568	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:18:00 - [50] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Indirect fire weapons with direct fire weapons support to force them out of position. maybe if mass drivers did more splash damage to heavies. i heard that their splash resist doesnt even work on remotes, so why not reduce their spash resist. (if im wrong about the remotes, my bad, i dont personally use them). -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando

Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 261	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:11:00 - [51] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: They made grenades for a reason... Also, kind of the role of a heavy to defend a point like that, or siege a point that's being too well defended. Also teamwork is OP, try it out when your having trouble c: Grenades? You would be HMG shredded before it left your hand, and if it did then nothing happens anyway. You must be a heavy. How many times have I read "teamwork is OP" from a heavy trying to keep their play style from being nerfed and "eyes are OP" from scouts doing the same? Grenades? And you have obviously never played as a heavy. I go down from a shotgun with 3 hits before I can start to turn around. 80% of my deaths come from remote bunnies. I've been killed fairly well by every weapon the game has to offer at one point or another. Just ask yourself what's the difference between the people killing proto heavies with those guns and you. Your one of those people who thinks it's logical to stand in front of a MINIGUN and live huh? Why don't you take the time to check out youtube and see what one actually can do. You presume too much. I have played every role in this game. Since I play as a scout I know you are bullshiiting about not turning around before 3 SG hits. 2 is the sweet spot. If you can't take down the sentinel in 2 SG hits the engagement becomes a 50/50 endeavor. If 80% of your deaths are to RE's then you are the best DUST 514 player in history. Again more bullshiite. From your post you seem 10-15ish so I feel kind of guilty pointing out your stupidity. But you brought it upon yourself dumbass. If the only real thing you can contribute to the conversation are insults, i dont believe I'm the child here c: Go take an english class and learn how to interact with people or get some manners. G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 936	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:15:00 - [52] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: They made grenades for a reason... Also, kind of the role of a heavy to defend a point like that, or siege a point that's being too well defended. Also teamwork is OP, try it out when your having trouble c: Grenades? You would be HMG shredded before it left your hand, and if it did then nothing happens anyway. You must be a heavy. How many times have I read "teamwork is OP" from a heavy trying to keep their play style from being nerfed and "eyes are OP" from scouts doing the same? Grenades? And you have obviously never played as a heavy. I go down from a shotgun with 3 hits before I can start to turn around. 80% of my deaths come from remote bunnies. I've been killed fairly well by every weapon the game has to offer at one point or another. Just ask yourself what's the difference between the people killing proto heavies with those guns and you. Your one of those people who thinks it's logical to stand in front of a MINIGUN and live huh? Why don't you take the time to check out youtube and see what one actually can do. You presume too much. I have played every role in this game. Since I play as a scout I know you are bullshiiting about not turning around before 3 SG hits. 2 is the sweet spot. If you can't take down the sentinel in 2 SG hits the engagement becomes a 50/50 endeavor. If 80% of your deaths are to RE's then you are the best DUST 514 player in history. Again more bullshiite. From your post you seem 10-15ish so I feel kind of guilty pointing out your stupidity. But you brought it upon yourself dumbass. If the only real thing you can contribute to the conversation are insults, i dont believe I'm the child here c: Go take an english class and learn how to interact with people or get some manners. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 261	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:52:00 - [53] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite Well, lets thank God you have found access to a dictionary, there is hope for you yet <3 G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Grimmiers 730	Posted - 2014.12.03 04:40:00 - [54] - Quote I use a shotgun on a galmmando. I don't expect to come out alive, but when it works it works.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2176	Posted - 2014.12.03 05:05:00 - [55] - Quote OBs. Nuke the planet from orbit, its the only way to be sure. In reality, to actually beat them, you could park a HAV out front of the room, and then send a fukton of sents w/ dmg mods in and try to clean them out. Of course, then they'll spawn back and retake it, since it seems you guys are lacking in heavies to hold the position, and they clearly had enough dakka to keep you from getting in, I'm sure they can dakka themselves back into the hidey-hole. I Live for Tears
Charli Chaplin jr F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. Smart Deploy 23	Posted - 2014.12.03 07:35:00 - [56] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: There is a squad of heavies and logis on an objective that you need to take. The letter is closed from all but two angles, neither of which can be fired through from range. The top of the objective is covered and there are no vantage points with los on the objective. What do you do? Bring out a scout with RE's and flux nades and just end their party. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.


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