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Kain Spero
Goonfeet
3890
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:36:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:An ISK bonus is nice, but it doesn't change the fact that one side loses 90% percent of the time, thereby jamming all the players on the winning side into 30 minute wait times and creating a huge waste of time for all involved.
FW is flawed.
Mabye the goal was to break the log jam? All I know is when we q-synch Cal FW we get in match after match pretty much instantly.
Players trying to chase the winning side don't really have anyone to blame but themselves. Still I think the event would cater better to how players want to play by just doing 100k ISK for wins for whatever faction you do the most matches for or maybe just give you 100k ISK for every win.
Let the players decide which faction they want to fight for.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15286
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:37:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:My personal experience is such that wanting to have a caldari character now comes in two separate parts
Wanting my identity to be caldari as after playing a few months in beta, I came to the realisation that I preferred caldari visual style, as well as enjoying caldari lore/characters the most, but I didnt want to start over Yes they did allow me to move to a Caldari Station and merc quarters
I also prefer caldari style gameplay, being skilled into their dropsuits weapons,equipment and vehicles 58m sp. Id like to have access to the caldari starter fits for when I want to play cheap (I ended up getting a lot of caldari BPO in the end but still)
Overall I understand if you feel you can't afford the manpower/time to do race changes After allowing respecs...perhaps a one off free race change
Declaring for a faction sounds like a good idea Simple, bonus LP/Standing, for your declared faction, slightly less for their allies and a negative bonus for enemy factions epic cooldown timer of 1-3 months?
Get some text of your char info, perhaps standing related rank for whichever faction you declare for And a mercenary type designation for those who dont declare, that rank/title related to their combined standing levels accross factions
Oddly enough if I got to create a new character and I think I might.
I'm going Gallente and being a Militant SOE Crusader!
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Mex-0
179
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:40:00 -
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I can already taste the protostomps and blueberry tears.
Meh, I give up on FW.
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Middas Betancore
Fatal Absolution
232
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:50:00 -
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Militant SOE? Shooting ppl , then rescuing them
I've heard good things about null sec/wormhole exploration in SOE ships
That or roam FW space pwning OB ships with drones
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
573
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Posted - 2014.12.01 23:44:00 -
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1. Remove race restrictions for ISK.
2. Increase ISK amounts to support competitive squads. (Though it is understandable if CCP wants to use this event as a trial on the implementation of ISK into FW)
Give the Magsex some love.
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Templar XIII
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2014.12.01 23:51:00 -
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There is no incentive to engage in Amarr or Caldari FW. Gallente and Minmatar suits, modules and weapons plus the APEX suits are much more attractive than the aforementioned faction's, which is why q-syncing squads all flock to Minmatar and Gallente FW, leaving the rest to solos, making them easy bait. The event won't change this, no it will rather make the situation worse than it is already. Right now it is almost impossible to fight for Amarr or Caldari, as each game is being unbearably lagged to its utmost. Different picture when fighting on Gallente or Minmatar side: no teleporting reds here...how come? As long as rewards are so one-sidedly balanced, I will stick to Minmatar and Gallente FW if ever, though I'd love to fight for Amarr. No gain, no need to pain. Speaking of weapon balancing: FW will tell you the story. |
jett it
MONSTER SYNERGY
56
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Posted - 2014.12.02 01:48:00 -
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Frame you lied!
You said something extra special for this weeks event.
If you call 100k isk special for a win thats brutal i get 400k isk for a pub win cause my loyalty rank.
Why would i want to get a 100k bonus when i can triple that playing normal pubs???
Never mind the fact that 80% of your players would have nothing to even buy with their 50% extra lp cause they never ever play factions!
Another joke of an event listen to your player frame fix this horrible event.
Not to even mention the horrible bloodline garbage that most players have no clue about!
Long live dust! |
Darth-Carbonite GIO
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
1293
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Posted - 2014.12.02 01:56:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:An ISK bonus is nice, but it doesn't change the fact that one side loses 90% percent of the time, thereby jamming all the players on the winning side into 30 minute wait times and creating a huge waste of time for all involved.
FW is flawed. Mabye the goal was to break the log jam? All I know is when we q-synch Cal FW we get in match after match pretty much instantly. Players trying to chase the winning side don't really have anyone to blame but themselves. Still I think the event would cater better to how players want to play by just doing 100k ISK for wins for whatever faction you do the most matches for or maybe just give you 100k ISK for every win. Let the players decide which faction they want to fight for.
It is easy to get into Cal faction, and Gallente players are making everything worse, but I don't see how this event helps that. More people will play Minmatar and Gallente because it's the easiest way to make LP, and CaldarI and Amarr players will continue to struggle.
Incentives for playing for your chosen race is good, it's just that one side has a distinct advantage. Blueberries just don't know any better.
So you want to be an ADS Pilot? You're gonna need The Right Stuff
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
1293
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Posted - 2014.12.02 01:57:00 -
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Templar XIII wrote:There is no incentive to engage in Amarr or Caldari FW. Gallente and Minmatar suits, modules and weapons plus the APEX suits are much more attractive than the aforementioned faction's, which is why q-syncing squads all flock to Minmatar and Gallente FW, leaving the rest to solos, making them easy bait. The event won't change this, no it will rather make the situation worse than it is already. Right now it is almost impossible to fight for Amarr or Caldari, as each game is being unbearably lagged to its utmost. Different picture when fighting on Gallente or Minmatar side: no teleporting reds here...how come? As long as rewards are so one-sidedly balanced, I will stick to Minmatar and Gallente FW if ever, though I'd love to fight for Amarr. No gain, no need to pain. Speaking of weapon balancing: FW will tell you the story; consumables of perceived and experienced greatest usability and performance draw the most and more organized customers/mercs. FW is no different.
+1
So you want to be an ADS Pilot? You're gonna need The Right Stuff
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
660
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Posted - 2014.12.02 02:33:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:During the week of December 2-9, players will experience 50% increase of the Loyalty Point (LP) rewards from Factional Warfare matches. Additionally, should players win a Factional Warfare match fighting for their own faction (Example: Amarr Players winning a match fighting for Amarr side in Factional Warfare), they will receive 100.000 ISK bonus reward for each match won in the following days after the event is over! Can I have my race changed to Gallente? All I run more than 90% of the time since open beta is Gallente Scout. I have no skills in Minmatar dropsuits with no plans of doing so.
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
553
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Posted - 2014.12.02 03:41:00 -
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jett it wrote:Never mind the fact that 80% of your players would have nothing to even buy with their 50% extra lp cause they never ever play factions! APEX dropsuits not attractive at all? Okay then you can skip this event ;)
Story of your life
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JONAHBENHUR
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
55
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Posted - 2014.12.02 04:31:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:During the week of December 2-9, players will experience 50% increase of the Loyalty Point (LP) rewards from Factional Warfare matches. Additionally, should players win a Factional Warfare match fighting for their own faction (Example: Amarr Players winning a match fighting for Amarr side in Factional Warfare), they will receive 100.000 ISK bonus reward for each match won in the following days after the event is over! this says a 50% bonus but for all wins i am only getting 10% bonus to lp
"To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1035
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Posted - 2014.12.02 04:47:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:Can u perhaps sort me out a race change to caldari before the event starts? You sorted my station move just before 1.9 and I thank you implicitly for that Please!!!
Otherwise I guess I miss out on the isk
Also, was gonna make a separate thread but I'll be brief
6+12 hour FW boosters on the market please, can they also boost standings I tried triple stacking 24 hour FW boosters, it's terrible aur vs time value, you'd sell more if they had 6+12, also perhaps end of match instant boosts
Otherwise, thanks for the bonus LP....im due a standing lvl up too!
I don't remember where the thread exactly is, but if I recall correctly, we are all locked into our stations now due to some changes that have happened in 1.9. GMs can't move you anymore due to that.
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior")
Learning Coalition & RTG
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Middas Betancore
Fatal Absolution
234
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Posted - 2014.12.02 04:50:00 -
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Indeed I may have been the last one...hope I didn't break anything
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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brett morris518
is well hung
7
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Posted - 2014.12.02 05:17:00 -
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Ok so I guess I lucked out when picking my race because that's mostly what I run... Yay I get extra isk, yay I can get more lp... Oh wait.. The only hours I can play are right after downtime.. Sooo I will never be getting a apex suit, never be able to buy things from the loyalty store.. Please fix this |
Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
96
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Posted - 2014.12.02 05:26:00 -
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JONAHBENHUR wrote:CCP Frame wrote:During the week of December 2-9, players will experience 50% increase of the Loyalty Point (LP) rewards from Factional Warfare matches. Additionally, should players win a Factional Warfare match fighting for their own faction (Example: Amarr Players winning a match fighting for Amarr side in Factional Warfare), they will receive 100.000 ISK bonus reward for each match won in the following days after the event is over! this says a 50% bonus but for all wins i am only getting 10% bonus to lp
The event doesn't start for another 6 hours... |
Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
318
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Posted - 2014.12.02 07:06:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:This sounds awesome.
I wish you could declare loyalty to a faction though rather than it be because of the race you chose at the start of character creation.
Shut up Kain
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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Aderek
Made in Poland... E-R-A
100
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Posted - 2014.12.02 11:28:00 -
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SO, when we will see actual battles (a/d) on fractional map?
I see 30 swords, but still waiting about one hour to enter battle :(
On www i can find corporation actual atack/defend, why i cant see actual FW battles?
Good day :)
dust514.pl
MM proto logi
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8666
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Posted - 2014.12.02 14:09:00 -
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Aboard the Gallente Steam Train!
Now that the week of black friday and Cyber Monday are over I can finally have enough time from work to play something other than EVE.
LUCENT ECHELON, TIME TO Q' UP!
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
602
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Posted - 2014.12.02 14:44:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Aboard the Gallente Steam Train!
Now that the week of black friday and Cyber Monday are over I can finally have enough time from work to play something other than EVE.
LUCENT ECHELON, TIME TO Q' UP! What train? The game doesnt work and we all know it. Apart from scotty telling me that he screwed up on the FW que theres nothing to see.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8671
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Posted - 2014.12.02 15:20:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Aboard the Gallente Steam Train!
Now that the week of black friday and Cyber Monday are over I can finally have enough time from work to play something other than EVE.
LUCENT ECHELON, TIME TO Q' UP! What train? The game doesnt work and we all know it. Apart from scotty telling me that he screwed up on the FW que theres nothing to see. we left your ass at the station.
Seriously though, it is boring to wait for a battle.
Last week we had a two team Q waiting for Gal FW for 30+ mins.
What's funny is the Caldari blame the Gallente but they can easily get in a fight honestly whenever the hell they felt like it.
They just choose not to, and then ***** about it.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
574
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Posted - 2014.12.02 15:32:00 -
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Ugh, ^
They ever learn.
Give the Magsex some love.
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Middas Betancore
Fatal Absolution
236
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Posted - 2014.12.02 15:48:00 -
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Havent had any trouble finding a cal match Been running q's and full squads last few days, on average the wait is about 15-30 secs, starting at about 5pm eve time Thats just my experience though
See ya'll out there
LP!! Nom nom nom, gotta decide which apex to get......
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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Aelns Dene
DUST University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2014.12.02 16:38:00 -
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My two cents:
From where I stand this event is a practical way to promote the minutia of the New Eden Lore and role-play Faction Warfare (rpFW). With rpFW I mean the real deal... like in EVE, not some simple progression towards Planetary Conquest. The only difference here is that we are not forced into a Militia corporation.
At the moment of creating our characters, the brief summary of each race is clear enough to give us a context that we will (or are suposed to) relate to. If you didn't really care to read... well then, probably role-playing FW isn-Št really for you and it should just become that simple progression between Public matches and Planetary Conquest .
However it should not be a locked issue and I really understand those that request a race change. In this case I would strongly defend an alternative "loyalty declaration" solution if ever it becomes possible: your standings define your loyalty automatically!
We can only dream with the day we may commission an EVE player to take our merc anywhere in New Eden!!!
I assume that faction gear demand must be very much lopsided towards Gallente and Minmatar because those items are the main reason most of us do FW. If this is the case then buffing (slightly...) underused faction gear should help mercs look into those factions and balance standings out.
CCP: Would it be possible for us to know how balanced the factions have been?
The event can then be a chance for us mercs to look, once again, at our own (and others) inherited faction strengths and see if we can relate to the resulting play styles. In other words, our everyday life in DUST!
Though it is true that many FW caldari adversaries are lacking in team/squad work, I have been on the receiving end of "monumental stomps" beautifully executed by extremely competent teams aided by many EVE pilots. So the resources and manpower is there!!! More interesting is the fact that EVE also sees some real issues in the Caldari Militia... [yes I know this sounds like trolling the Caldari...].
Sorry about the wall of text...
Summed up: Faction Warfare should have embedded role-play mechanisms: 0.1-Declaration of loyalty defined by mercs standings. 0.2-Fight for your "declared" faction and you get ISK. 0.3-Fight in "correct" faction gear only and get extra bonus LP.
PS: I still await the day when we see a Jove warrior merc...
"When you see something you don´t understand, kill it. Ask questions later."
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Sequal Rise
Les Desanusseurs
363
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Posted - 2014.12.03 08:08:00 -
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Did you say there was an event?
Because an event isn't only an increased stat in the game, but a little story, something that happened in the videogame's universe, new skins for the characters (ho wait visual optimisation has nothing to do with skin modding), unique equipments that can only be find there, etc. But let's not deal with words.
After waiting ~30min (by scale of 7-8 min) for FW, I realised that I went there to play a videogame, not to watch an endless timer ^^ So I just went back to pubs.
Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be.
Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.
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jett it
MONSTER SYNERGY
58
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Posted - 2014.12.03 10:46:00 -
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Good event the thing i dont get is why on earth would you stay for a losing FW battle u get almost no lp and on top of that u dont get 100k isk for the bonus.
So what i have found since playin a few FW is that the losing team all starts to leave even before the half way mark.
Since players are enticed to win they all leave losing battles and then it aint much of a battle for the winning team.
I dont know if anyone knows what im talking about but i noticed that right away.
Long live dust!
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jett it
MONSTER SYNERGY
58
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Posted - 2014.12.03 11:23:00 -
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Also i was just wondering i waz playin FW all night must of got about 10-15 full battles in but between battles i sometimes had to wait up to a half hour after scotty timed out a few times to get into an other battle. Maybe im doing so mething wrong but is there any other quicker methods of getting into FW quickly without some long waits? If not thats kool ill just have to wait it out :)
Tks for any help. |
jett it
MONSTER SYNERGY
58
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Posted - 2014.12.03 11:58:00 -
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Well i have three amarr FW boosters going and really having a hard time getting into a battle. Been wait now over an hour scotty timed out 5-7 times in a row. My boosters are draining away iam just helpless dust please help any hints or what should i do?
Please help tks a billion!
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Sequal Rise
Les Desanusseurs
366
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Posted - 2014.12.03 12:18:00 -
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Sorry dude but it is FW, some are lucky and find battles instantly, some are not and wait decades before having a fight..
Now you know you should never buy FW boosters again..
Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be.
Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.
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jett it
MONSTER SYNERGY
58
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Posted - 2014.12.03 12:21:00 -
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Sequal Rise wrote:Sorry dude but it is FW, some are lucky and find battles instantly, some are not and wait decades before having a fight..
Now you know you should never buy FW boosters again..
Ahhh man really?
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