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Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 538	Posted - 2014.11.30 21:10:00 - [1] - Quote Had 3 games today where blue di**heads were destroying our uplinks and they were shooting/killing blues. 2 punishments should kick people from FW. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 570	Posted - 2014.11.30 21:15:00 - [2] - Quote If those links were in the Gal Research Lab, then I can't blame them. Causes lag more than half the time. Elsewhere, they were either hoping to replace links with their own for WP's, or dicking around for realsies. Killing blues multiple times. Kill those fackers and keep them on a blacklist in the channel. Give the Magsex some love.
Middas Betancore Fatal Absolution 224	Posted - 2014.11.30 21:17:00 - [3] - Quote Saw 2 sqds of dust brasil on gal team, with one person on the cal team Tried to awox us, got kicked in about a min They lost the match GG "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8358	Posted - 2014.11.30 22:17:00 - [4] - Quote That being said, don't punish for pure accidents. Like being low on health rushing someone, and then getting wasted by a friendly Mass Driver. Or accidentally running someone over in a LAV because you didn't look both ways before crossing the street (Happens more often than you think). Or my favorite: Trying to shotgun someone I am Nova Knifing. Listen, if you get in between me and my kill, I will shoot/stab you in the back. Learn Darwins law of Combat "Incoming fire has the right of way" Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15235	Posted - 2014.11.30 22:24:00 - [5] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Or my favorite: Trying to shotgun someone I am Nova Knifing. Listen, if you get in between me and my kill, I will shoot/stab you in the back. Learn Darwins law of Combat "Incoming fire has the right of way" Very solid First Law there. Second Law: No good soldier lives to breed. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19688	Posted - 2014.11.30 22:30:00 - [6] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: That being said, don't punish for pure accidents. Like being low on health rushing someone, and then getting wasted by a friendly Mass Driver. Or accidentally running someone over in a LAV because you didn't look both ways before crossing the street (Happens more often than you think). Or my favorite: Trying to shotgun someone I am Nova Knifing. Listen, if you get in between me and my kill, I will shoot/stab you in the back. Learn Darwins law of Combat "Incoming fire has the right of way" I generally find that people trying to knife people I am trying to shotgun tend to come off worse rather than the other way around. The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
Middas Betancore Fatal Absolution 225	Posted - 2014.11.30 23:05:00 - [7] - Quote Yes also.....once I called an OB in on FW I saw 3 reds... Pilot was distracted and delayed firing by 5-10 seconds Friendlies move in and clear the area The pilot fires an 8 gun laser barrage I kill 6-9 friendlies.... I DIDNT get kicked Thanks to all you ppl who didnt punish me, I owe you 450 standing "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1034	Posted - 2014.11.30 23:22:00 - [8] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Like being low on health rushing someone, and then getting wasted by a friendly Mass Driver. I almost exclusively use the MD, and I rarely kill a friendly with it, but when I do it's because the fool was trying to be Rambo when they blatantly saw I was shelling the area for a push. Then I get punished for doing my damn job. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 539	Posted - 2014.12.01 00:13:00 - [9] - Quote I'm talking about these real d***heads. That run with proto and destroys eqiupment, shoot blue dots who try to hack etc. What can we do to stop him? Killing him will be affected with ban from FW. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Middas Betancore Fatal Absolution 225	Posted - 2014.12.01 00:37:00 - [10] - Quote Bait them into gettin banned, wear a cheap fit and anger him enough to get himself banned If you see him/her a lot..perhaps you could note the times and dates and file a support ticket. ..?? If you have enough friends in the match, take turns killing him Only as a solution to the situation u described I don't ever endorse deliberate unprovoked teamkills Worst awox moment for me, I was in a tank Friend jumped out of his tank Blue jumps in, then kills him He fires several blaster rounds into my tank, by reflex I return a full volley of proto large missiles I probably did a small amount of team damage beforehand Banned -450 standing Frakkin frog frakker "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8363	Posted - 2014.12.01 01:05:00 - [11] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: That being said, don't punish for pure accidents. Like being low on health rushing someone, and then getting wasted by a friendly Mass Driver. Or accidentally running someone over in a LAV because you didn't look both ways before crossing the street (Happens more often than you think). Or my favorite: Trying to shotgun someone I am Nova Knifing. Listen, if you get in between me and my kill, I will shoot/stab you in the back. Learn Darwins law of Combat "Incoming fire has the right of way" I generally find that people trying to knife people I am trying to shotgun tend to come off worse rather than the other way around. Bad Shotgun scouts are Bad Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 270	Posted - 2014.12.01 03:30:00 - [12] - Quote Vehicles can smash you or run you over and no punishment option pops up. There are guys that even made alts just to exploit this.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15259	Posted - 2014.12.01 04:05:00 - [13] - Quote STYLIE77 wrote: Vehicles can smash you or run you over and no punishment option pops up. There are guys that even made alts just to exploit this. If you drive in front of a tank you die. Right of way is given to those with superior firepower. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact 6243	Posted - 2014.12.01 04:09:00 - [14] - Quote How about if one person has more war points than the rest of his team combined he should be allowed to have consequence free team killing. At that point if i drop and OB on a group of friendlies. you know maybe they deserve it. Templar BPO's and Dust Corp Services Black Friday Sale 50% off while supplies last.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6234	Posted - 2014.12.01 04:16:00 - [15] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: That being said, don't punish for pure accidents. Like being low on health rushing someone, and then getting wasted by a friendly Mass Driver. Or accidentally running someone over in a LAV because you didn't look both ways before crossing the street (Happens more often than you think). Or my favorite: Trying to shotgun someone I am Nova Knifing. Listen, if you get in between me and my kill, I will shoot/stab you in the back. Learn Darwins law of Combat "Incoming fire has the right of way" The deal is a lot of the time the victim can't avoid those situations while the perpetrator can. LAV running over - Sometimes they come out of nowhere and hit you in the back MD - Some times you're in a crowded room and some fool starts spamming explosives Knives - sometimes scouts try to rush ahead of you when you're Knifing or shotgunning and they slash/shoot indiscriminately Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6234	Posted - 2014.12.01 04:17:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: STYLIE77 wrote: Vehicles can smash you or run you over and no punishment option pops up. There are guys that even made alts just to exploit this. If you drive in front of a tank you die. Right of way is given to those with superior firepower. So everyone must bow down to Jihad Jeeps? Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 571	Posted - 2014.12.01 04:24:00 - [17] - Quote And then you just can't help but get steamrolled instantly by another LAV when he sideswipes from behind as you exit. Give the Magsex some love.
Ed Shot Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.01 05:05:00 - [18] - Quote Had a game yesterday where an unscrupulous tanker had fitted a mobile CRU to his tank without a secondary turret. I spawned in, got intsa-killed by getting run over. This annoyed me. A few more goes and bam, he got kicked.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 246	Posted - 2014.12.01 06:01:00 - [19] - Quote I think if a player has been punished about 3 times, their name should show Yellow and everyone should be able to kill them over and over with no repercussions c: G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 227	Posted - 2014.12.01 06:05:00 - [20] - Quote When i see a large amount of pricks on my team i start LAV races. BPO LAVs are awesome Pffft....... Proto Suits lol Adv Omni Merc is the way to go

SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 228	Posted - 2014.12.01 06:11:00 - [21] - Quote The mass driver was never meant as an assault weapon, excluding the breach. It is a weapon to deny the area to the opposing team. Its a closer range role of what the sniper was supposed to be. If you are TKing with an MD you should really rethink your use of the weapon. Vehicle TKs happen. Manure Occureth. We suck it up and move on with life. Now the blueberry that shot my corpmate out of an objective from my dropship irritated me, but thats my fault for letting a random in my DS. Pffft....... Proto Suits lol Adv Omni Merc is the way to go
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2214	Posted - 2014.12.01 08:39:00 - [22] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: If those links were in the Gal Research Lab, then I can't blame them. Causes lag more than half the time. Elsewhere, they were either hoping to replace links with their own for WP's, or dicking around for realsies. Killing blues multiple times. Kill those fackers and keep them on a blacklist in the channel. thats only if its equipment spam.. its happened to me before when my uplink was the only one with in 70meters or so.. out pops a scrubberry blaps my uplink i turn around and BLAP i get a shotgun to the chest #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Dubya Guy Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 49	Posted - 2014.12.01 14:11:00 - [23] - Quote I like the idea of matches with friendly fire on. It encourages skilled play. There should never be consequence-free team killing. Area effect weapons must be used with extreme caution. But there should be a difference between being GÇ£punishedGÇ¥ by your peers for stupid, careless play, and being GÇ£bannedGÇ¥ for deliberate harassing, griefing, awoxing of teammates. I propose a dual-mode GÇ£punishmentGÇ¥ system. The first mode would give the option to GÇ£costGÇ¥ the careless blueberry a portion of their Loyalty Points. Perhaps as much as 50%. Friendly fire through reckless and indiscriminate use of your weapons should be strenuously discouraged in a way that still gives you an option to GÇ£learnGÇ¥ from your mistakes. The second mode would give the option to kick and GÇ£banGÇ¥ someone after they had been punished via the first mode at least twice in a battle. They would be kicked from battle and not earn any LP or SP. (Note: As a side effect of applying real consequences to even the first instance of friendly fire, I would predict TTK in factionals would increase markedly. Many tacticians would see this as a plus for the game.) Enough Likes to this and I'll post to the suggested features section. FPS = First Person Support. Kills win battles but it's kinda hard to kill if you're dead and out of ammo.
Middas Betancore Fatal Absolution 229	Posted - 2014.12.01 14:45:00 - [24] - Quote We can introduce new punishment systems It doesn't stop ppl making alts to just switch through and grief ppl "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
Dubya Guy Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 49	Posted - 2014.12.01 14:57:00 - [25] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: We can introduce new punishment systems It doesn't stop ppl making alts to just switch through and grief ppl A more "accelerated" banning as described would decrease the amount of "fun" per any given alt. But I agree it wouldn't stop such behavior. Suggestions? Or do you not think this is much of a problem? I was running in a cpl or your Kirjuun Heiian Caldari FW channel's squads yesterday, and quit it after being frustrated with this behavior. That's why I posted. FPS = First Person Support. Kills win battles but it's kinda hard to kill if you're dead and out of ammo.
Middas Betancore Fatal Absolution 230	Posted - 2014.12.01 15:18:00 - [26] - Quote Hmmm I did only see one instance of awoxing yesterday, it was dust brasil Was it the person in ur sqd that awoxed you? Or just a random blue I wouldn't put the gals past some kind of "awox campaign", it's more likely just the act of a few random players thinking they are doing something productive In theory you could mess up a few matches by awoxing for a game when you're done with FW for the day, but I would never countenance such base actions myself As for improving the current system, id say we could take it to 3 punishes for a ban Im not so sure about tweaks to dmg inflicted bans, as a lot of purely innocent FF dmg occurs in any match Is it a problem? It could be, simply if enough players are inclined to awox, unless GM are willing to ban an actual human player for repeated awoxing This may require too much effort/ human resource to monitor and investigate Or perhaps it's part of the game "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8400	Posted - 2014.12.01 15:30:00 - [27] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: That being said, don't punish for pure accidents. Like being low on health rushing someone, and then getting wasted by a friendly Mass Driver. Or accidentally running someone over in a LAV because you didn't look both ways before crossing the street (Happens more often than you think). Or my favorite: Trying to shotgun someone I am Nova Knifing. Listen, if you get in between me and my kill, I will shoot/stab you in the back. Learn Darwins law of Combat "Incoming fire has the right of way" The deal is a lot of the time the victim can't avoid those situations while the perpetrator can. LAV running over - Sometimes they come out of nowhere and hit you in the back MD - Some times you're in a crowded room and some fool starts spamming explosives Knives - sometimes scouts try to rush ahead of you when you're Knifing or shotgunning and they slash/shoot indiscriminately SOMETIMES It takes but half a second of reasoning before you realize the dude is a douche or if it was accident. People, you have a brain. Use it. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Dubya Guy Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 50	Posted - 2014.12.01 15:34:00 - [28] - Quote Different "Random" blueberries. Not in squads. No, they were not in Dust Brazil. I don't mean to whine. I just moved on to other things after losing suits to deliberate "un"friendly fire. Also, I am not the sort to have "enemies" in the game, so I am sure it was no vendetta. They were chasing me down and plinking me, pausing between shots. Could I have killed them? I'm pretty sure I could. Instead, I approached and remained stationary. No response. So I began moving to the objective again. Plink, Plink, dead. I don't retaliate because a) this might MAKE an enemy or encourage the griefing behavior and b) I would rather not get punished myself. I don't think the "risk" of getting killed is in any way a punishment to griefers who will get LP and WP when they finish the match, even if they kill a few blues. FPS = First Person Support. Kills win battles but it's kinda hard to kill if you're dead and out of ammo.
Middas Betancore Fatal Absolution 231	Posted - 2014.12.01 15:40:00 - [29] - Quote Ya that kinda sux, personally I dont see a large amount of awoxing but that's just me I have seen some corps/individuals carry personal vendettas into FW and do disrupt the game with immature behaviour That's online gaming for u Edit: I do see how that particular situation would be difficult to handle Myself id probably just shoot them dead to get away from them and then just try and avoid them But that's not really a solution, u were probably right just to leave "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted


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