DooM style, hell yeah but wait..honestly its 2014 there is need for strafe in game ;)

As people above said, we need inertia physics, the way it is now people change direction instantly, becoming near untouchable.

EDIT: Yup, had a feeling my post would be on the next page... shoulda listened to it, yup... -.-

I only half agree with you because you're missing half the picture.

Removing strafing is fine, but we also need a set of passive skills that increase aim assist. They would have to break down to categories like 'Adhesion Amplification', 'Magnetization Radius Modulation' and 'Assist Range Projection' to name only a few.

But we also want to maintain racial identities, so we could vary racial bonuses, for example Ammarians could get an 'Alpha Shot hyperMagenetization' bonus for their Scrambler Rifles bonus while Minmatar could get a 'Projectile Tracking Adhesion' bonus for their Combat Rifles. 'Assist Range Amplification' would be a great native bonus for the Caldari and their Rail Rifles, whereas 'Magnetization Radius Expansion' is just the ticket for Gallente.

I know this all sound great, we have to be careful that all these skillpoint sinks don't make the game too grindy, so these bonuses should be available in the AUR store, to accommodate all manners of playstyles.

P.S. Could someone please forward this to CCP Z? I think he'll love it.

The only problem with strafing is low FPS and poor hit detection.

Can CCP fix the core problems of the game instead of trying to put playability band aids on on that just make these things even more difficult to fix?



Strafing was never a problem when we had the thing that slowed you down when you got shot. I really think this should be brought back.

+1000 Thank you OP

I am just sick and tired of losing Gunfights to scrubs, who magically move their thumbs left and right. Its a game breaking mechanic, and I am just finally glad someone had the courage to bring it up.

I have been here sense day one and have amassed a huge amount of SP and ISK. 99% of the player population should not even be able to challenge me, yet with the strafing mechanic, I die more times then I kill.

CCP I am a paying loyal costumer, who is being destroyed by these so-called joystick jockeys. Just get rid of strafing, and LET US ROLL FOR KILLS.

Lmao! Dodging should be part of a game in my opinion, BUT people using keyboards should not have the advantage they do with it.

Personally I say disable using a keyboard for the game, I've played online FPS's on a PC, a controller cannot contend with the functionality of the keyboard and mouse.

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Case rested?

They made the mistake of taking away strafing once a long time ago. It was horrible and I am glad they changed it back.

How could anyone seriously ask to take away realism? People can move like this in real life. Ever play paintball?

I hope CCP knows to ignore foolish posts like this one.

Look how many people believe vaccinations are bad for you.

You are free to have an idea, but everyone else is free to laugh at it.

It is just simply a bad idea. We had it once, and it was bad.

-1 nice troll OP... LOL

We should remove strafing, buff aim assist, and make DUST 514 into a turn-based RPG

NICE, to see this thread run so many pages.

I predicted that, once the heat dies down about Equipment (anti-spamming) Bandwith being introduced, Patch 1.10 would be remembered for boldly attacking the "Strafing Exploit" (some argue it's really a strafing CHEAT), in more exotic and controversial ways than previous game titles ever really did.
Not trying to speak for CCP, but I feel sure they have teammates who have always felt the "strafe" technique of avoiding your opponent's bullets, was a legendary gimmick that has unfairly ruled fps games for way too long.

"Strafing" is an excuse-name for what we are doing---we're really jumping backwards like bunnies, backpedalling in 15 ft diameter circles around the shooter, figure-eight rolling with the analogue sticks while shooting, and leap-froggin over the shooter's head right after we quick-shotty him.

We only call it "strafing" for the same reason a lousy driver who nearly causes highway accidents calls herself "an aggressive driver": to give a more positive "power" perspective on what she is doing, while implying that other drivers are weaker or timid if they can't drive the way she does.
...There really never was any such reality as "aggressive drivers". They are just lousy drivers who push the exploitable intention of road safety lines and procedures, and make driving unsafe for the rest of us.
...There really never was much reality in what we call "strafing" in our fps games. The arguement is that these are just players who exploit the intention of the controller buttons and game movements, and make the game annoyingly too cartoonish and evasive for the rest of us.

I am not officially saying I agree or disagree with the argument about the strafe-exploit gimmick. But, just like the issues that Aim-Assist responded to in Dust, I think it is something that needs to be strongly REDUCED (not entirely eliminated). And I'm glad to see Dust is the game stepping forward to inventively try.

It's likely not going to be as rock-solid and unnecessary to tweak as the Aim-Assist design was, but I believe with some adjustments and polish, the Strafe-Penalty mechanic will work.
The SIGNIFICANCE of it is certainly starting to sink in... LOL.

I am entitled to my opinion.
You maybee right about the speed thing it's still bullshit with the matrix strafe. It should NOT be a option to dance your way over a open field it's tottal and utter crap.

And yeah I strafe also but when i am into a 1v1 strafe battle against some one it's just a ridiculous game meckanic win or loose.

No cover !
Help me to undetstan, is there or is it not cover in the game!

I believe it ads to the game if you have to think twice before you charge over a open field with a fortification on the other side.

However I respect ppl that like it as it is now even if I don't agree one bit with it

Regards

How about actual 'tank controls' for moving infantry around:

left stick controls left leg forward/backward
right stick controls right leg forward/backward

Completely eliminate strafing, job done.

KB/M players can just stick to the standard QWOP controls for forward/backward; turning/looking/firing is handled by AI.

Converting the game to be a rails shooter would also be an elegant solution.

They tried standing in neat lines and not dodging bullets during the war of 1812, didn't work. Why should they remove strafing? It's realistic, and every other shooter has it. They should definitely add strafe acceleration and nerf strafe speed, but removal would just be silly.

Removing strafe will lead to the situation where highest eHP = easy win