Lets be real here Skirmish is to complex for 99% of the simpletons that are playing caldari+amarr in FW. The game mode thats beeing played should either be Domination or Ambush OMS. First off all both modes are more popular cause its easy to just shot the reddot or throw all 16 players onto 1 objective and secondly both game modes are faster over then skirmish. Do that and your chances to actually get into a FW match without waiting 30 mins are going to be much higher.

Lets be real here Skirmish is to complex for 99% of the simpletons that are playing caldari+amarr in FW. The game mode thats beeing played should either be Domination or Ambush OMS. First off all both modes are more popular cause its easy to just shot the reddot or throw all 16 players onto 1 objective and secondly both game modes are faster over then skirmish. Do that and your chances to actually get into a FW match without waiting 30 mins are going to be much higher.

Going forward I'd like to see faction warfare become an entirely 'unique' style of match for those really invested in it, allowing much like eve to fight over and potentially control the warzone. This idea is based off of a few parallels within eve.

1) Create 'priority' hubs (accessible on the star map) that allow players to pay LP into them to build up a target priority rating which once over a certain value causes matches generated to gravitate towards said system or region until the 'rating' is depleted (via successful defenses).
2) Allow players to access a priority queue, either by evaluating their investments into priority hubs or by allowing them to spend LP to get into a priority queue. A 'priority' squad leader drags their whole squad into the priority queue. Anyone not in a 'priority queue' gets the current 'anyone goes anywhere' type deployments. the main intent of points one and two is to allow players more agency over where they fight, should they actually want to exercise said agency

3) Cause successful attacks / defenses of districts to 'lock' the district for a short amount of time, eg. 30-45minutes.
4) If all districts on a planet are captured cause the planet to 'lock' for a moderate amount of time eg.8-24h (if a planet 'unlocks' a certain minimum threshold of districts must be re-secured in order to re-lock the planet). At this point anyone who paid into a priority hub and participated in a certain value of 'active' priority matches would get some form of (small) payout
5) If all planets in a system are 'locked' the whole system locks for a moderate amount of time eg. 3days. (a single relocked planet wouldn't relock the system). At this point a payout is awarded to those who paid into a priority hub and participated in a certain number of 'active' priority matches.

Overall I feel like this would serve to make FW a more 'engaging' game mode and make players really excited to fight for their respective faction. I understand that this is highly unlikely to ever be possible with dusts current design or team, but I feel like sharing the idea anyway.

Lets be real here Skirmish is to complex for 99% of the simpletons that are playing caldari+amarr in FW. The game mode thats beeing played should either be Domination or Ambush OMS. First off all both modes are more popular cause its easy to just shot the reddot or throw all 16 players onto 1 objective and secondly both game modes are faster over then skirmish.

Lets be real here Skirmish is to complex for 99% of the simpletons that are playing caldari+amarr in FW. The game mode thats beeing played should either be Domination or Ambush OMS. First off all both modes are more popular cause its easy to just shot the reddot or throw all 16 players onto 1 objective and secondly both game modes are faster over then skirmish. Do that and your chances to actually get into a FW match without waiting 30 mins are going to be much higher.

I share my sentiments with True, we should be able to deploy into hotzones rather than just trying to que up and ROFLStomp each individual game.

The stronger players need to be sent to the tougher battlefields.

Also: PLEASE DON'T MAKE AMBUSH A FW GAME MODE

Ambush is THE most broken game mode in this game. It's horribly implemented with bad spawning systems. You think the q-syncs are bad? Wait till you run in a team of 16 in Ambush. They will spawn camp you like nobodies business. It's like you guys WANT to be stomped harder when I hear this.

Domination I can live with. But not Ambush. I hate that game mode with a PASSION.

Lets be real here Skirmish is to complex for 99% of the simpletons that are playing caldari+amarr in FW. The game mode thats beeing played should either be Domination or Ambush OMS. First off all both modes are more popular cause its easy to just shot the reddot or throw all 16 players onto 1 objective and secondly both game modes are faster over then skirmish. Do that and your chances to actually get into a FW match without waiting 30 mins are going to be much higher.

The problem is we have 1000 Gallentes and a 1000 Minmatars waiting for FW to start.

IF you go ahead and Click Caldari and Amarr FW ; you will get in pretty darn fast.... and get your butt kikd.

The game mode is broken.

It's not often that I agree with this "KING CHECKMATE" guy, but quite frankly this is the crux of the issue in FW.

Since I've already explained it elsewhere, I'll just link that instead of typing it out here.

I will also say that spambush is shite, and should never be a part of FW. Dom is almost as bad, IMO, while Skirmish really is the best mode for FW.

Except for the part where it encourages scout spam. /ragey moment over cloaky shotgun scouts double-tapping me while still invisible

I mostly run hacking scout suits. Since Skirmish deals with obtaining and defending objectives, a sabotage/assassin/hack suit is more viable than a straight up assault. There are moments I do bring out a Quafe suit :D and when there are good matches against respectable gunners, I bring out proto (has only happened twice).

So believe me when I say I would rather shoot Amarrians than knife them in the back. The only times I'll bring out a Sentinel or Shotty or Assault is if the objective changes from holding null cannons to a game of attrition.

TBH scout spam in Skirmish-matches (which is basically what FW/PC is) is more symptomatic of scout suits being good at too many things simultaneously.

I'm not kidding when I say that I've been seeing an increasing number of "Logi-Lites", where people run a scout suit as if it was a triage logi.

It's actually kind of offensive to me in fact, that the scout suit is so amazeballs (or logis are just that ass) that people are increasingly choosing to use a scout suit to provide reps/revives instead of running a logi rig.

"to those defending skirmish as a game mode, u are morons"
Please stop talking, you're only embarrassing yourself


U want faster FW matches? Just so u can spam LP?
While extra/different modes would be interesting, it shouldnt be just to satisfy you're LP whoring

Domination is popular as it gives many opportunities for vets to farm noobs, ask any big corp
"Ppl can't understand more than one obj"

You're just a ranty little child

Please biomass yourself


But hey, just call us all morons and idiots

Im sure someone will listen to u

Caldari queue times over the last 2 days are under a minute

Im gonna discuss this no further, you're just the worst kind of player, it's all about u

Like some sweet 16 debutant, hope u never enjoy dust again

This thread is mostly cancer.


No point in putting any input here besides telling MINA to stop bitching and get organized.

Staying in a Caldari FW squad is like listening to a bunch of crying , whining 17 year olds. I just can't stand it.


I guess people are soon going to start bitching about me providing constant Orbital Support for Lucent Echelon.

All that being said I completely agree with True Adamance.

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In some respects though my opinions have softened listening to your suggestions on patrols and coming to my own conclusions on how I think FW should work.

In the end EVE, Dust, and by extension FW is no fair and never will be.Not 10 minutes ago the Amarr claimed Huola, minmatar held system for 1000+ days, in the space of 10minutes and 20000 DPS with no opposition.

However there is no reason to force new players into matches vs synced vets......and by extension no reason a vet Q-Sync corp should ever gloat about FW victories achieved in this manner.

Its not an achievement, its unbecoming, and was just a ******* joke.

Might be for caldari cause no 1 actually wants to play for them while on the opposite site for gallente you need to wait ages to get int. Basically looks like the following:

-16 caldari players are qued and ready to "fight" (lol more like getting stomped)
-200 gallente players are qued and are waiting aswell

So we end up with 184 (gallente) players waiting insane amounts of times to actually get into a FW match cause there is nobody on the opposition to fight. And i had scotty time out two times in a row (2X30 mins=1 hour) cause it coldnt create a match. And no signing up for the factions that have players whos primary skill is to shot themself in the foot is not a option.

This thread is mostly cancer.


No point in putting any input here besides telling MINA to stop bitching and get organized.

Staying in a Caldari FW squad is like listening to a bunch of crying , whining 17 year olds. I just can't stand it.


I guess people are soon going to start bitching about me providing constant Orbital Support for Lucent Echelon.

All that being said I completely agree with True Adamance.

It's not often that I agree with this "KING CHECKMATE" guy, but quite frankly this is the crux of the issue in FW.

Since I've already explained it elsewhere, I'll just link that instead of typing it out here.

I will also say that spambush is shite, and should never be a part of FW. Dom is almost as bad, IMO, while Skirmish really is the best mode for FW.

Except for the part where it encourages scout spam. /ragey moment over cloaky shotgun scouts double-tapping me while still invisible

lol @ the random insults here. About the topic: tried to que again and scotty failed. There should be a LP gain bonus for the underdog sites. Like maybe +70% LP gain when your site is loosing massively or give better LP payouts for the loosing site instead of only a fraction.