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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2927	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:41:00 - [1] - Quote The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Immortal John Ripper 25863	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:45:00 - [2] - Quote I wonder if it was nerfed because of the glitch. Delete Minmatar from the game.
General John Ripper 25863	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:45:00 - [3] - Quote I wonder if it was nerfed because of the glitch. Delete Minmatar from the game.
Hakyou Brutor Titans of Phoenix 1687	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:47:00 - [4] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: I wonder if it was nerfed because of the glitch. I tried the glitch, but I couldn't get it under anywhere Knight Soiaire = my bae
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15153	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:49:00 - [5] - Quote As long as Frisbee scouts are gone all is right in the world. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1169	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:52:00 - [6] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. I laugh at this I've been taking out sentinels with my arr and core locus alot lately they are super easy ypur just not good. Btw if your 20m from them dont run in the direction they are facing. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4813	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:03:00 - [7] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. I laugh at this I've been taking out sentinels with my arr and core locus alot lately they are super easy ypur just not good. Btw if your 20m from them dont run in the direction they are facing. So, if you're a Gallente Assault with an AR, you're ******? Working as intended, I suppose?
Clone D Grundstein Automation 876	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:07:00 - [8] - Quote Can you provide a link to or a description of the latest RE changes? Thanks ISK Trader channel: blitz
SagaB Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 84	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:24:00 - [9] - Quote Are you referring to this thread? This kind of nerf does not hurt "frisbee throwing" RE spammers because their primary intent is to spam REs, not engage with a weapon. Hopefully it is just a bug and not a silent nerf (one without community feedback).
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2002	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:30:00 - [10] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. Biased heavy hater is biased... 0/10 =.= Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r

hfderrtgvcd 1310	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:36:00 - [11] - Quote what happened to them? You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Mike Ox Bigger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 581	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:40:00 - [12] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. I laugh at this I've been taking out sentinels with my arr and core locus alot lately they are super easy ypur just not good. Btw if your 20m from them dont run in the direction they are facing. So, if you're a Gallente Assault with an AR, you're ******? Working as intended, I suppose? Huh? Breach AR is owning heavies right now. I smoke two joints before I smoke two joints, then I smoke two more.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 490	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:47:00 - [13] - Quote Bait and switch remote technique! Draw attention of kill chasing heavy into a pre setup remote field. Remotes on entrances wor too. Stopping the logi train is tough I know. Range fire, flanking, and core grenades work wonders as well. Gallente assault w AR needs to carry core grenades, Flay lock pistols, scanners, and the breach AR. May not work well on heavies, but the logies will hate you! Kill the logi in close, and when the heavy gets you atleast you left him vulnerable for your caldari counterpart to rail him to death! Providing said caldari isn't in CQC mode that is?! Logi trains tend to climb in closed areas in ambush. Mass drivers do well at killing off logies! A dead logi is a dead heavy when it comes to the train. "Anybody order chaos?"
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2172	Posted - 2014.11.28 05:59:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: As long as Frisbee scouts are gone all is right in the world. its a bug with the animation speed so frisbee is still here #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2172	Posted - 2014.11.28 06:00:00 - [15] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. it was a blatent ninja nerf that was not needed.. however i think it may be a bug since in first person both cloak and RE use the same animation.. but this dosnt excuse the grenade useage and switching out of RE's to be soo stupidly slow #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1858	Posted - 2014.11.28 06:08:00 - [16] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Gun game alone can kill a Sentinel. Good gun game includes knowing how and when to engage any given enemy; sentinels are easy pickings at long range and still killed at medium range with little risk if you aren't stupid. The problem is that most of the time people engage Sentinels on their terms at short range whether by map design or by their own stupidity. Kills:21, Deaths:5, KDR: time for a smoke. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 453	Posted - 2014.11.28 15:49:00 - [17] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. I laugh at this I've been taking out sentinels with my arr and core locus alot lately they are super easy ypur just not good. Btw if your 20m from them dont run in the direction they are facing. exactly, killing heavies has always been about engaging them outside their kill zone. At 30+ meters even the militia AR outdamages the HMG. If ur trying to go head up with heavies in CQC ur supposed to fail horribly.
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 57	Posted - 2014.11.28 15:56:00 - [18] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. I laugh at this I've been taking out sentinels with my arr and core locus alot lately they are super easy ypur just not good. Btw if your 20m from them dont run in the direction they are facing. Don't listen to this guy, run straight up to them and say hello, or something nice- heavies are just misunderstood gentle giants.
SagaB Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 85	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:17:00 - [19] - Quote GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. I laugh at this I've been taking out sentinels with my arr and core locus alot lately they are super easy ypur just not good. Btw if your 20m from them dont run in the direction they are facing. Don't listen to this guy just run straight up to them and say hello or something nice- heavies are just misunderstood gentle giants. Yes, gentle until they want you to meet his "little friend"
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2932	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:28:00 - [20] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Gun game alone can kill a Sentinel. Good gun game includes knowing how and when to engage any given enemy; sentinels are easy pickings at long range and still killed at medium range with little risk if you aren't stupid. The problem is that most of the time people engage Sentinels on their terms at short range whether by map design or by their own stupidity. 1v1. Unless you have a RR, ScR, and sometimes breach AR, and the heavy is stupid enough to try to cross open ground, you won't kill him. If you run a CQC weapon, the heavy wins 9 times out of 10, simply because they can tank most of your clips worth of shots, if not the whole clip, and have much higher DPS than you as well. There is a reason that sentinels are so prevalent in PC. Thats also the reason why speedy assaults and scouts with remotes is the new counter-heavy meta. Which I hate BTW, despite the fact that it benefits me more than most. Its stupid that the only way to kill a tanked heavy sitting on an objective is to use more than one person, or RE chuck all over the place and hope that a heavy is caught in the blast. Your statement says that good gun game involves knowing when to engage an enemy sentinel. However, it is very VERY easy to make it so that there is no good time to engage an enemy sentinel. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.

SagaB Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 87	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:50:00 - [21] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Gun game alone can kill a Sentinel. Good gun game includes knowing how and when to engage any given enemy; sentinels are easy pickings at long range and still killed at medium range with little risk if you aren't stupid. The problem is that most of the time people engage Sentinels on their terms at short range whether by map design or by their own stupidity. 1v1. Unless you have a RR, ScR, and sometimes breach AR, and the heavy is stupid enough to try to cross open ground, you won't kill him. If you run a CQC weapon, the heavy wins 9 times out of 10, simply because they can tank most of your clips worth of shots, if not the whole clip, and have much higher DPS than you as well. There is a reason that sentinels are so prevalent in PC. Thats also the reason why speedy assaults and scouts with remotes is the new counter-heavy meta. Which I hate BTW, despite the fact that it benefits me more than most. Its stupid that the only way to kill a tanked heavy sitting on an objective is to use more than one person, or RE chuck all over the place and hope that a heavy is caught in the blast. Your statement says that good gun game involves knowing when to engage an enemy sentinel. However, it is very VERY easy to make it so that there is no good time to engage an enemy sentinel. Shouldn't we find a way to get the Sentinels role away from objectives so Assaults can be viable in hacking and defending objectives?
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4824	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:55:00 - [22] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Joel II X wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. I laugh at this I've been taking out sentinels with my arr and core locus alot lately they are super easy ypur just not good. Btw if your 20m from them dont run in the direction they are facing. So, if you're a Gallente Assault with an AR, you're ******? Working as intended, I suppose? Huh? Breach AR is owning heavies right now. Sorry. Didn't realize I was talking about the Assault variant instead of the Breach. Glad you caught that.
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1543	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:56:00 - [23] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. they should be for vehicles only, not one hit kill no skill spam weapons for bad players to get easy kills without having to compete against the other player, utilising zero gungame, tactics or aiming. DUST VIDEOS
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1543	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:57:00 - [24] - Quote and i can solo heavies with a viziam, i don't know what people's problem is with them. the breach AR is destroying heavies right now, prof 5 and 4 complex damage mods, they will turn and try to run away. DUST VIDEOS
Jack 3enimble Titans of Phoenix 487	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:05:00 - [25] - Quote RE's are used to kill all infantry not just heavies. A scout with RE's has great scans to help with his RE spam. Flux grenades still let the RE explode instead of disarming like it does with ALL other equipment so really the only thing the scout has to is just drop and wait. RE's are the most broken piece of equipment right now
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3372	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:21:00 - [26] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. I laugh at this I've been taking out sentinels with my arr and core locus alot lately they are super easy ypur just not good. Btw if your 20m from them dont run in the direction they are facing. exactly, killing heavies has always been about engaging them outside their kill zone. At 30+ meters even the militia AR outdamages the HMG. If ur trying to go head up with heavies in CQC ur supposed to fail horribly. Loooooooooooooool I've seen hmgs shoot out past 40 meters get out of here your silly! supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 561	Posted - 2014.11.28 19:01:00 - [27] - Quote If heavies are impossible to kill with gungame, then i must a beastly god because i kill em like flies in my min assault with acr. You "dedicated" scouts need to adapt or skill into more suits.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2406	Posted - 2014.11.28 19:08:00 - [28] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The new remote nerf is very sneaky...in my speed tanked assault, its almost as bad as the cloak. I personally am beginning to think that RE's are a bit too skilless, simply because of how easy it is to speed remote somewhere, and pop everyone, but if they are going to be nerfed, I think we need to look at heavies first, and how they are impossible to take out without a double or triple team of shotgunners or a remote explosive. The remote explosive is a counter to heavies--its the only suit that is slow enough for the remote to work. I like the idea of nerfing it, but if this occurs, heavies will need to be severely nerfed, so that gun game alone can kill them. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again--if you want assaults to be go to slayer suits, they need to be able to survive 1812894 hp Sentinels with 900 DPS death rays. Has it happened, or is it going to happen? Has he said what he'll do? I'm in favor of a remote nerf myself. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2406	Posted - 2014.11.28 19:09:00 - [29] - Quote SagaB wrote: Are you referring to this thread? This kind of nerf does not hurt "frisbee throwing" RE spammers because their primary intent is to spam REs, not engage with a weapon. Hopefully it is just a bug and not a silent nerf (one without community feedback). Maybe scouts should get an RE shotgun instead of a regular one. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Jakkal Shoobah Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2014.11.28 19:20:00 - [30] - Quote SagaB that question is a thread in itself. Jakkal "Jammal" Shoobah, The friendly/pissy Gallente Commando/Assault Assault Rifles til I get stomped to the ground



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