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PARKOUR PRACTIONER Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2269	Posted - 2014.11.24 14:05:00 - [1] - Quote I cant handle the insane kick it has. Its freaking ridiculous. I guess at range a little closer then regular RR range but outside of SMG range? I dont understand it. I just specced into it a week ago i think. Where the hell do you use it? MyGLUTAC still works. PSN Sil4ntChaozz *Specialist Low SP Player [SMG CR SR NK SCP/Mk.0&Gk.0]* Not well-known not unknown
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair 93	Posted - 2014.11.24 14:10:00 - [2] - Quote I use it every second week of never. Your welcome for the constructive post.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2269	Posted - 2014.11.24 14:18:00 - [3] - Quote That doesnt help me much. PSN Sil4ntChaozz *Specialist Low SP Player [SMG CR SR NK SCP/Mk.0&Gk.0]* Not well-known not unknown
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2118	Posted - 2014.11.24 14:18:00 - [4] - Quote ARR is pretty decent with L5 and Proff 4 #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2731	Posted - 2014.11.24 14:25:00 - [5] - Quote It is the primary weapon I use on my Scout. The kick is pretty insane, even in ADS (seems worse than it was pre-Charge nerf - kick reduction; before I hardly noticed ADS kick) but the weapon is still pretty lethal. I generally only use Caldari weapons. In fact, aside from HMG at level 3 I can only use Caldari Weapons aside from Dren or Militia. I like how the Rail Rifle 'feels', it is one of the few guns in this game that 'feel good' to shoot in my opinion. The Rail's current Charge makes it pretty much unusable but the ARR was unaffected. Especially since the ammo increase, it has done me fairly well. It has good range so I can sneak behind entire squads and set them up in a cross fire. At close range, it is still fairly lethal in hipfire though I try my best to get the drop on everyone either at a range that most benefits my weapon choice or right in their face when they are completely oblivious so they are dead before the kick goes off. I like it. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair 93	Posted - 2014.11.24 14:36:00 - [6] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: That doesnt help me much. Sure it does, the arr is junk, there are far better choices of weapons like the acr, asr and bar
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 669	Posted - 2014.11.24 14:49:00 - [7] - Quote There is honestly no situation where the ARR makes sense for me right now. The RR is much, much more accurate down sight, has more range, and feels like it has less ADS kick, or at least the ARR's ADS kick makes it pretty inaccurate down sight. The ARR has less charge and, it seems, a bit less hipfire kick and spread, but that's just enough to make it less horrible hipfiring, not enough to make me ever want to hipfire it over pulling out an SMG. So there's no reason to ever, ever, ever use it.
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 669	Posted - 2014.11.24 14:55:00 - [8] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: It is the primary weapon I use on my Scout. The kick is pretty insane, even in ADS (seems worse than it was pre-Charge nerf - kick reduction; before I hardly noticed ADS kick) but the weapon is still pretty lethal. I generally only use Caldari weapons. In fact, aside from HMG at level 3 I can only use Caldari Weapons aside from Dren or Militia. I like how the Rail Rifle 'feels', it is one of the few guns in this game that 'feel good' to shoot in my opinion. The Rail's current Charge makes it pretty much unusable but the ARR was unaffected. Especially since the ammo increase, it has done me fairly well. It has good range so I can sneak behind entire squads and set them up in a cross fire. At close range, it is still fairly lethal in hipfire though I try my best to get the drop on everyone either at a range that most benefits my weapon choice or right in their face when they are completely oblivious so they are dead before the kick goes off. I like it. I also feel that the ARR's ADS kick has been increased. It feels like the old magsec now but not as bad. Really hard to stay on target and already dealing with the iron sight. If the ADS kick has been increased I think the first step is to undo that, then reduce the min/max hipfire recoil and dispersion, then tone down its range just enough to balance its hipfire buff.
Middas Betancore Fatal Absolution 188	Posted - 2014.11.24 15:12:00 - [9] - Quote AAR is my main weapon, tried it in pc last night, it just felt unreliable, like I couldn't defend myself at all, After only a quarter of the clip it becomes "inaccurate" I try to compensate by firing in bursts of approx 10, which makes it controllable but having to spool up each time...just puts me at a huge disadvantage Not sure exactly what must be done "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 669	Posted - 2014.11.24 15:17:00 - [10] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: AAR is my main weapon, tried it in pc last night, it just felt unreliable, like I couldn't defend myself at all, After only a quarter of the clip it becomes "inaccurate" I try to compensate by firing in bursts of approx 10, which makes it controllable but having to spool up each time...just puts me at a huge disadvantage Not sure exactly what must be done Confirmed. ARR is unusable trash ATM.

Darrius Smithmage 70	Posted - 2014.11.24 15:35:00 - [11] - Quote I use it when I'm assaulting a point with my calmando sense I fill people just walk away from my RR. Then I just krin at who ever gets in my face. CalFW roleplayer I play for no one but the state. I rep no corp nor channel and they don't rep me Im a solo calfw vet.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1153	Posted - 2014.11.24 16:25:00 - [12] - Quote I love arr but you know whats better and fotm? Breach ar the thong is stupid accurate and no recoil its the new rr We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2283	Posted - 2014.11.24 17:24:00 - [13] - Quote With the recent buffs to the ARR, I've gone back to my long lost love. It's a killer at medium to long distances. It's pretty good up close too, but only for a few shots, then I've found that you either have to pull out your sidearm for a shot or two, or duck behind cover and pause, to let the kick die down. I put it back on my Cal Scout with 2 damage mods and one range amp. That said, I typically only run the suit on outside sockets -- I much prefer the BrAR in closer/city maps.
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 527	Posted - 2014.11.24 17:24:00 - [14] - Quote Having to put up with Breach users because tied to racial gear? That's me. So I do put up with the ARR's senseless kick, but if I was outdoors I would feel my RR and Magsec combo would work better. Give the Magsex some love.
Operative 1174 Uuali the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 118	Posted - 2014.11.24 17:29:00 - [15] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I cant handle the insane kick it has. Its freaking ridiculous. I guess at range a little closer then regular RR range but outside of SMG range? I dont understand it. I just specced into it a week ago i think. Where the hell do you use it? MyGLUTAC still works. Lol, I guess some people are going to have to get used to the RR being like a real full auto weapon. You know what they ought to add? The visual jarring that also occurs when you fire a machine gun. Even more fun would be the deafness that follows firing any rifle or machine gun. Easy fix. Aim low, fire in bursts and let the kick bring the barrel up to the head area of an opponent. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4746	Posted - 2014.11.24 17:30:00 - [16] - Quote Never. I tend to stay away from Caldari weapons.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 5072	Posted - 2014.11.24 17:31:00 - [17] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I cant handle the insane kick it has. Its freaking ridiculous. I guess at range a little closer then regular RR range but outside of SMG range? I dont understand it. I just specced into it a week ago i think. Where the hell do you use it? MyGLUTAC still works. We are trying to convince Ratatti to make the ARR the Caldari answer to the Gallente Assault Rifle, as in viable in CQC, but still with a bit of range since it is still a Rail Rifle. You can't have the best of both worlds, so in order to make it viable at close range, it must not be as good at long range. I have seen a suggestion to shorten its range to 60m. I also think it should have iron sites with very little zoom, to make it difficult to use it's full range capabilities. The kick does need to be reduced if it is supposed to be the Caldari short range viable rifle. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1154	Posted - 2014.11.24 18:01:00 - [18] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I cant handle the insane kick it has. Its freaking ridiculous. I guess at range a little closer then regular RR range but outside of SMG range? I dont understand it. I just specced into it a week ago i think. Where the hell do you use it? MyGLUTAC still works. We are trying to convince Ratatti to make the ARR the Caldari answer to the Gallente Assault Rifle, as in viable in CQC, but still with a bit of range since it is still a Rail Rifle. You can't have the best of both worlds, so in order to make it viable at close range, it must not be as good at long range. I have seen a suggestion to shorten its range to 60m. I also think it should have iron sites with very little zoom, to make it difficult to use it's full range capabilities. The kick does need to be reduced if it is supposed to be the Caldari short range viable rifle. The arr has iron sights herp de derp We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2695	Posted - 2014.11.24 18:39:00 - [19] - Quote Whenever I go pirateing - ARR! Spkr4theDead wrote: Says the guy that was quitting the game because CCP were nerfing fused locus grenades.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 622	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:02:00 - [20] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I cant handle the insane kick it has. Its freaking ridiculous. I guess at range a little closer then regular RR range but outside of SMG range? I dont understand it. I just specced into it a week ago i think. Where the hell do you use it? MyGLUTAC still works. You gotta Push down slightly on the right stick while firing. It's the same way you counteract any kick its just far more extreme lol. Such is the nature of the high powered rifle that doesn't overheat in your hand. PS. Dont try for head shots aim center mass and try to keep it on center mass. If you're lucky it will climb into a head shot while you're trying to keep it steady lol. The ARR is basically the Magsec with more damage and range if you are familiar with using the magsec that is.

KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5940	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:04:00 - [21] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I cant handle the insane kick it has. Its freaking ridiculous. I guess at range a little closer then regular RR range but outside of SMG range? I dont understand it. I just specced into it a week ago i think. Where the hell do you use it? MyGLUTAC still works. I DONT. I've been using my Ck.0 assault a LOT lately and i prefer using the Kaalakiota RR than the Ishuk ARR EVEN at CQ situations. Its, just unusable.. both at med ranges and CQ... The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
Mike Ox Bigger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 512	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:06:00 - [22] - Quote They tried to push people into the ARR by nerfing the standard version but what CCP fails to realize is the weapons in a pretty bad place. You get the similar range with a CR and a faster DPS. Plus I'm not sure what it is about the iron sights but I have trouble hitting people who are slightly behind cover. If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 623	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:33:00 - [23] - Quote Man that's really weird and here I thought the ARR was pretty OP I just shred people with it in my Caldari Assault.... All I can say is to reiterate aim center mass and push back (Or forward in my case as I play with the Y-Axis Inverted on aiming). You get good with that though and you may not think the AR is so bad anymore once you learn to stay on target lol. Same with aiming down the sight only point the rifle sight where both sides rise up around your target while you aim for their lower torso/pelvis.
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 137	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:42:00 - [24] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I cant handle the insane kick it has. Its freaking ridiculous. I guess at range a little closer then regular RR range but outside of SMG range? I dont understand it. I just specced into it a week ago i think. Where the hell do you use it? MyGLUTAC still works. Almost all day everyday.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1935	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:44:00 - [25] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I cant handle the insane kick it has. Its freaking ridiculous. I guess at range a little closer then regular RR range but outside of SMG range? I dont understand it. I just specced into it a week ago i think. Where the hell do you use it? MyGLUTAC still works. the key is understanding that the kick in ADS is just visual and all the shots land where your pointing the iron sight. use as a run n gun weapon but a little outside AR range. keep your targets between 50 and 60m. KEQ diplomat/ lolromansboat cost more then your whole village
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 455	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:05:00 - [26] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181664 That link is for the people who want less charge time on the RR. AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.


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