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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.24 13:10:00 -
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Speced into SR and can't seem to finish my kills. Can't get through their armor.
How so you SR users deal with the armor tanking meta we have now?
My primary is CR and NK so I'm used to a strong finisher.
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
634
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Posted - 2014.11.24 13:34:00 -
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Headshots slam stationary targets, but landing them on targets in motion is more a matter of luck than skill. Placing consecutive body shots on a moving target is a crapshoot with slightly better odds, but it still a crapshoot.
So, I tend to focus my efforts on picking off weak, weakened or lazy targets.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5039
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Posted - 2014.11.24 13:38:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:How so you SR users deal with the armor tanking meta we have now? Laser damage profile has zero stopping power. Armor inherently has shittons of HP so carving through it with a 20% damage penalty is a chore.
I carry an SMG sidearm. The ScR strips their shields, projectile damage profile rips through their armor.
... this works well until you encounter an Amarr sentinel. Their command bonus reduces projectile damage to their armor. I usually just run away from them or take pot shots from a safe distance.
My advice to you, playa...
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
349
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Posted - 2014.11.24 14:49:00 -
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So the SR is death for caldari and some minmatar but a pea shooter at gal and amarr.
I guess this is why the RR has remained supreme long range with the SR in obscurity.
I have been killed by SR very effectively at time though, I feel like I'm missing something....
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
634
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Posted - 2014.11.24 14:55:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:
I have been killed by SR very effectively at time though, I feel like I'm missing something....
There's a huge headshot multiplier. Just have to get super lucky, or wait for someone to stand still long enough to lineup the shot. |
sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
830
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Posted - 2014.11.24 14:58:00 -
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Use flux grenades to take down their shield first. Then finish their armour with the SR. Make sure you get some distance on that flux throw though.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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zzZaXxx
Vengeance Unbound
669
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:07:00 -
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Play to ScR and Amarr Assault strengths. The ScR is a do-everything weapon that has one weakness: dealing with sentinals. Amarr Assault with ScR can kill shotty scouts before they can get off a second shot, and armor is a good profile against SG and AR. It's a beast CQC weapon. You can also engage at range but it ends up being more suppression unless they're shieldy, in the open, or you get off a good charge shot. Mid-range it's accurate and often working in its optimal. Amarr Assault/ScR is always a good matchup against any medium frame or light frame. Against commandos fine except beware the MD Minmando. Against Gal/Amarr sentinals...get help or back off.
Amarr Assault/ScR is a great baseline, ready for any situation build. I default to it and then go with Cal Ass/RR for range, and Min Ass/(A)CR for CQC flanking/running around the map. |
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
345
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:08:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Bright Steel wrote:
I have been killed by SR very effectively at time though, I feel like I'm missing something....
There's a huge headshot multiplier. Just have to get super lucky, or wait for someone to stand still long enough to lineup the shot. Edit: You are talking about the (SR) Sniper Rifle, right? Now I'm wondering if you might be talking about the ScR (Scrambler Rifle).
He's talking about the Scrambler Rifle, unfortunately he doesn't understand the difference between SR and ScR.
That moment when you mow down a proto Caldari assault suit with a militia laser rifle.
Words can't describe it.
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zzZaXxx
Vengeance Unbound
669
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:10:00 -
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Oh also you have to rely on your side arm a lot. I suggest a complex sidearm dmg mod along with a light weapon one. Use an SMG in general and after instamelting shields bust it out and shock the sh!t out of them with how fast you tear down their armor. Equip a dmg modded bolt pistol to take down heavy frames. |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4649
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:15:00 -
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Spend another 2mil on the Amarr assault
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
349
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:45:00 -
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Sorry, I was talking about the scrambler rifle and fixed the abbreviations.
Brain fart 
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
349
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:47:00 -
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What is the ScR optimal?
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4649
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:50:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:What is the ScR optimal?
I think around 75m but the kick it has makes quickly disposing of a enemy kinda difficult.
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
350
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:56:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Play to ScR and Amarr Assault strengths. The ScR is a do-everything weapon that has one weakness: dealing with sentinals. Amarr Assault with ScR can kill shotty scouts before they can get off a second shot, and armor is a good profile against SG and AR. It's a beast CQC weapon. You can also engage at range but it ends up being more suppression unless they're shieldy, in the open, or you get off a good charge shot. Mid-range it's accurate and often working in its optimal. Amarr Assault/ScR is always a good matchup against any medium frame or light frame. Against commandos fine except beware the MD Minmando. Against Gal/Amarr sentinals...get help or back off.
Amarr Assault/ScR is a great baseline, ready for any situation build. I default to it and then go with Cal Ass/RR for range, and Min Ass/(A)CR for CQC flanking/running around the map.
I speced it to have an alt with long range, but it doesn't perform well at long rang? The optimal is 75 but it does better at mid to short range?
This sucks
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
681
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:58:00 -
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Learn the heat mechanic without having to look at the heat gauge.
Learn when to charge shot and when to rapid fire.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
8210
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Posted - 2014.11.24 16:00:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Speced into ScR and can't seem to finish my kills. Can't get through their armor.
How so you SR users deal with the armor tanking meta we have now?
My primary is CR and NK so I'm used to a strong finisher.
Two Words: Damage Mods
Slap on 3x Damage mods and laugh at your new 108% to armor (Base is 71.5. With 3x damage mods, you hit 77.65. Without moods its only 57.2)
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
350
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Posted - 2014.11.24 16:02:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Speced into ScR and can't seem to finish my kills. Can't get through their armor.
How so you SR users deal with the armor tanking meta we have now?
My primary is CR and NK so I'm used to a strong finisher. Two Words: Damage Mods Slap on 3x Damage mods and laugh at your new 98% damage to armor.
I was wanting to try them but my alt only has 5 mill SP 
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matsumoto yuichi san
The Elite Few Inc.
The Methodical Alliance
92
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Posted - 2014.11.24 16:05:00 -
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well i can usually JUST get through armor stacked suits before overheat, on a std SCr no Damage mods
but i am running on amarr assault with rank 5
and rank5 scr
and prof 5
so maybe i am a bit biased
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Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
397
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Posted - 2014.11.24 16:22:00 -
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ex- Amarr Assault here.
Get the Amarr Assault, master the charge-shot and volley burst. It'll kill most suits, wound proto suits and utilize your SMG.
And learn how to strafe.
Only loyal to the republic.
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
352
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Posted - 2014.11.24 16:35:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:ex- Amarr Assault here.
Get the Amarr Assault, master the charge-shot and volley burst. It'll kill most suits, wound proto suits and utilize your SMG.
And learn how to strafe.
Working on it, but SP is slow coming :/
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1847
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:14:00 -
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As long as you land all your shots you shouldn't have no trouble taking down an armor based suit (with exception to Sentinels unless you land a bunch of a headshots). The ScR does slightly more damage to armor after it's -20%, with a higher RoF to boot, than the RR does to armor with it's +10%.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1935
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Posted - 2014.11.24 19:57:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:So the ScR is death for caldari and some minmatar but a pea shooter at gal and amarr.
I guess this is why the RR has remained supreme long range with the ScR in obscurity.
I have been killed by ScR very effectively at time though, I feel like I'm missing something.... no the SCR will massacre any suit type in the game if used right. the key is to get as much damage out of the weapon as possible. this can be done by haveing amarr assault LvL 5 SCR LvL 5 and putting 2 to 3 complex damage modes on your suit.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
1221
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:00:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Speced into ScR and can't seem to finish my kills. Can't get through their armor.
How so you SR users deal with the armor tanking meta we have now?
My primary is CR and NK so I'm used to a strong finisher. Two Words: Damage Mods Slap on 3x Damage mods and laugh at your new 108% to armor (Base is 71.5. With 3x damage mods, you hit 77.65. Without moods its only 57.2)
That's some real weird math, man...
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19347
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:29:00 -
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The Amarr assault is key.
If you don't have one, don't use charge shots. You can't afford the hit to your heat economy - a charge shot takes up 10x the heat of a normal shot but only does 3x damage.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15000
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:37:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Speced into ScR and can't seem to finish my kills. Can't get through their armor.
How so you SR users deal with the armor tanking meta we have now?
My primary is CR and NK so I'm used to a strong finisher.
Charge Shots followed by a three or four round volley. Or simply pull back a little.
Most efficient solution is to switch to an automatic side arm to finish the kill.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1198
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:42:00 -
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Either run a good armor based side arm or overheat and die.
But it's fine, the ScR is OP right?
Amarrica!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19349
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Speced into ScR and can't seem to finish my kills. Can't get through their armor.
How so you SR users deal with the armor tanking meta we have now?
My primary is CR and NK so I'm used to a strong finisher. Charge Shots followed by a three or four round volley. Or simply pull back a little. Most efficient solution is to switch to an automatic side arm to finish the kill.
This is honestly terrible advice to people new to the SCR without an Amarr assault.
The heat economy of normal semi-auto shots without charge vollies is much more forgiving.
Only use charged vollies if you are confident you can down the target within your heat limits.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:47:00 -
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To be truthful regular shots are far more useful I rarely charge shot people anymore and if I do it because your a minmatar scout or to shock you into hiding.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15001
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:57:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Speced into ScR and can't seem to finish my kills. Can't get through their armor.
How so you SR users deal with the armor tanking meta we have now?
My primary is CR and NK so I'm used to a strong finisher. Charge Shots followed by a three or four round volley. Or simply pull back a little. Most efficient solution is to switch to an automatic side arm to finish the kill. This is honestly terrible advice to people new to the SCR without an Amarr assault. The heat economy of normal semi-auto shots without charge vollies is much more forgiving. Only use charged vollies if you are confident you can down the target within your heat limits.
He asked my how I do it. This is how I do it.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19350
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
He asked my how I do it. This is how I do it.
I imagine this is one of the many reasons that I am better than you.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15001
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Posted - 2014.11.24 21:02:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:
He asked my how I do it. This is how I do it.
I imagine this is one of the many reasons that I am better than you.
I'm a scrubby infantryman what can I say.
The way HAV are right now I just don't care enough to tank either. Any chance I get I'm off to WT:GF and rolling around in Tiger's, Panther's, and if necessary light Panzer III's.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19350
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Posted - 2014.11.24 21:09:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:
He asked my how I do it. This is how I do it.
I imagine this is one of the many reasons that I am better than you. I'm a scrubby infantryman what can I say. The way HAV are right now I just don't care enough to tank either. Any chance I get I'm off to WT:GF and rolling around in Tiger's, Panther's, and if necessary light Panzer III's.
Have you encountered the terror that is the officer plasma cannon?
I utterly crushed a tank offensive alone with just my commando and officer placon today. I hammered tank after tank into flaming wrecks. Sicas, two shotted, Gunnlogis, annihilated in a mere two clips and 5 seconds or so. Somas smashed, and the solitary Madrugar driven off with its metaphorical tail between its legs.
I earned a solo orbital.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15003
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Posted - 2014.11.24 21:44:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:
He asked my how I do it. This is how I do it.
I imagine this is one of the many reasons that I am better than you. I'm a scrubby infantryman what can I say. The way HAV are right now I just don't care enough to tank either. Any chance I get I'm off to WT:GF and rolling around in Tiger's, Panther's, and if necessary light Panzer III's. Have you encountered the terror that is the officer plasma cannon? I utterly crushed a tank offensive alone with just my commando and officer placon today. I hammered tank after tank into flaming wrecks. Sicas, two shotted, Gunnlogis, annihilated in a mere two clips and 5 seconds or so. Somas smashed, and the solitary Madrugar driven off with its metaphorical tail between its legs. I earned a solo orbital.
Yes I have. Fortunately I was quick to identify the guy after his missed with one of his first shots. The follow up was far too quick for a Prototype cannon. I just hit a full reverse, pulled in behind cover as another two rounds flew over.
I was going to try to hunt down that guy buy I'm full aware that an officer Cannon with Specialisation Skill bonuses completely negate Shield Hardeners which my fit was relying on.
I did manage to catch the dude later out on open ground but I don't know if he was Officer Cannon equipped.
But Arkena lets be honest.
If armour tanking was viable outside of smash and grab Ion Cannon fits and had the same powerful active modules shield tanking did I would be doing it.
Moreover just give me my Marauders back or an Officer HAV....... and you AV means nothing to me.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
5942
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Posted - 2014.11.24 22:09:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Speced into ScR and can't seem to finish my kills. Can't get through their armor.
How so you SR users deal with the armor tanking meta we have now?
My primary is CR and NK so I'm used to a strong finisher.
SCR is a great weapon overall. Pretty much my fav gun!
IN MY CASE:
I aim to the head and get LOTS of headshots. I, depending on the situation, use Damage mods too!
But what to do when facing an ARMOR TANKER!? another AMARR suit with 700+ armor? or a Gallente? Or a sentinel!?
Well, at Longer ranges neither of them actually worry me, im confident i will win....Most of the times just with my SCR rifle.
But in close quarters i use....
Flaylock Pistol.
(the secret to this weapon is to aim for the KNEES. If you hit, good! direct hits hurt. if you miss, you'll still get splash damage XD)
And if its an Open map and i STILL need a Ranged anti-armor weapon i use:
Bolt Pistol
The secret to Both MAss drivers and SCR rifles is the sidearm...
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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