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Speedddogg
Aaries Logistic Assault
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Posted - 2014.11.24 05:29:00 -
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Here are some things I've noticed:
Scouts are wally fast compared to hunters Hitting somebody with a knife in this game is really unsatisfying Rail rifles take longer to charge then a fusion rifle I keep trying to double jump I crouch to try to activate my cloak Flux grenades are not arcbolt grendes Dust shotguns are worse then destiny shotguns because in Destiny you can actually get away from them Dust looks really bad Dust is extremely slow Switching weapons takes forever, and I die because of it Just because my knives are infused with electricity does not mean they will destroy that intercepto- I mean tank. (Actually have they fixed that bug ye?) Dust weapons are really boring
I'm back and my knives are sharp!
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.11.24 05:36:00 -
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And hilariously, they have equal amounts of story.
Yes, I'm jaded and bitter of the ridiculous amount of money sunk into an RPG with such lackluster results. Super Mario 64 has a compatible amount of quest plot...
I mean, I'm fine playing games that have no story or a crap story if they don't need it, but Destiny, c'mon... How rude.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2014.11.24 05:39:00 -
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Most dust weapons are indeed boring. The ones ate extremely niche, though.
Looks... yeah, Dust kind of failed there, too.
I'm kind of finally getting tired of Dust as well. It needs more game modes. I'm thinking of finally deleting this game to just install it again every new patch just to see how things are going for a week. I just haven't been feeling it lately for like 3 weeks straight. |
sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.24 05:57:00 -
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Welcome back! I'm trying to fix the RR, mind signing my petition? Dust makes up for it's terrible play with a story you can kinda see. Destiny has a story like a Nigerian prince is going to send you that inheiritance. Oh wait, we just have to buy 22 more Destiny games and DLCs before we get a story in destiny! I guess by then we will get the money from the Nigerian Prince too! huh? Sorry most people will lie and say Destiny has 0 story, it really has about 10x less than that.
AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
872
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Posted - 2014.11.24 06:42:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Welcome back! I'm trying to fix the RR, mind signing my petition? Dust makes up for it's terrible play with a story you can kinda see. Destiny has a story like a Nigerian prince is going to send you that inheiritance. Oh wait, we just have to buy 22 more Destiny games and DLCs before we get a story in destiny! I guess by then we will get the money from the Nigerian Prince too! huh? Sorry most people will lie and say Destiny has 0 story, it really has about 10x less than that.
Please explain to me why including the word "petition" to a thread places more importance on the topic.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
872
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Posted - 2014.11.24 06:43:00 -
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Speedddogg wrote:Here are some things I've noticed:
Scouts are wally fast compared to hunters Hitting somebody with a knife in this game is really unsatisfying Rail rifles take longer to charge then a fusion rifle I keep trying to double jump I crouch to try to activate my cloak Flux grenades are not arcbolt grendes Dust shotguns are worse then destiny shotguns because in Destiny you can actually get away from them Dust looks really bad Dust is extremely slow Switching weapons takes forever, and I die because of it Just because my knives are infused with electricity does not mean they will destroy that intercepto- I mean tank. (Actually have they fixed that bug ye?) Dust weapons are really boring
I'm new. What is a "hunter?
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Orchi Aizen
TN1'S ARMY
70
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Posted - 2014.11.24 06:58:00 -
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Speedddogg wrote:Here are some things I've noticed:
Scouts are wally fast compared to hunters Hitting somebody with a knife in this game is really unsatisfying Rail rifles take longer to charge then a fusion rifle I keep trying to double jump I crouch to try to activate my cloak Flux grenades are not arcbolt grendes Dust shotguns are worse then destiny shotguns because in Destiny you can actually get away from them Dust looks really bad Dust is extremely slow Switching weapons takes forever, and I die because of it Just because my knives are infused with electricity does not mean they will destroy that intercepto- I mean tank. (Actually have they fixed that bug ye?) Dust weapons are really boring Your joking right? Destiny sucks,the story is boring and I don't get the same thrill as I do from Dust. Waste of money on that game I'll tell you what,also Destiny is way too easy. I mean I miss but I somehow hit the guy. The game may look cool but its just awful. Bad weapons too. |
Orchi Aizen
TN1'S ARMY
70
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Posted - 2014.11.24 07:02:00 -
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Dust has way more math then Destiny does and Destiny has worst server connection then Dust.Destiny may have a few things Dust doesn't have,but at least I don't get bored in 2 hours. |
Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1329
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Posted - 2014.11.24 10:34:00 -
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Dust has grit.
It may be sci-fi based,but not so whimsical everyone shoots colorful rainbows like destiny. Tried destiny,prefer Dust.
I feel as if i can actually relate to Dust and its origins. Destiny just feels to alien and cartoonish.
Then again dem Dust ragdolls tho. And Dust just all around seems better made.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.11.24 10:39:00 -
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Orchi Aizen wrote:Dust has way more math then Destiny does and Destiny has worst server connection then Dust.Destiny may have a few things Dust doesn't have,but at least I don't get bored in 2 hours. More math? You rarely use math outside of stacking penalties and percentages. Not sure why you're glad to be using middle school algebra.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1994
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Posted - 2014.11.24 11:51:00 -
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Beats running around in circles for hours farming mats.
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1526
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Posted - 2014.11.24 12:39:00 -
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I was on Destiny for 2 months, the L and R buttons are back to front across the 2 games (because somehow nobody wants to use the trigger buttons on the PS3 controller to, you know...pull a trigger?) even that messes you up.
Destiny's replay value is nowhere near DUST's is. DUST does look absolutely terrible though and runs so slowly it's like going back 2 console generations when you come back from Destiny. But there's not much progression in Destiny, you get stuck after a while, and you just collect shards. Then buy the DLC if you want to up more levels. Then you only really have access to whatever armour and weapons they put in the DLC to allow you to gain levels, forcing a basic gameplay mechanic behind a paywall! Then once you get sucked in they'll release more DLC. Meaning online eventually everyone is a higher level than you, and you won't get that way without forking over cash.
That got out of hand...I don't touch my PS4 since I got back into playing DUST. I'll take something unique over something new any day.
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game RUST415
830
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Posted - 2014.11.24 13:17:00 -
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Destiny is just farming. Played till 28 got sick of it.
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Savage Mangler
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.24 13:33:00 -
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Rented Destiny for 3 days and came to one simple conclusion: While beautifully rendered and graced with satisfying PvP, it suffers from poor design choices, ****** plot and fake difficulty during the last mission.
-YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED-
"Good, then they'll know who killed them."
Salvation...through Annihilation
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
15184
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Posted - 2014.11.24 13:55:00 -
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Ive barely played Destiny since I hit 29, but the pvp is leagues ahead of this game, mechanically speaking. I go there when I want some good fps action, since it doesn't happen here much. DUST only draws me in at all because dropships. It is the games single redeeming quality
Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube
Fly Safe
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1995
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Posted - 2014.11.24 14:15:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Ive barely played Destiny since I hit 29, but the pvp is leagues ahead of this game, mechanically speaking. I suppose if you prefer the more twitch shooter everyone's the badass style of game. I like dust pvp because there is some stretegy, teamwork, battle lines and large teams (compared to destiny). The different classes are basically the same in destiny, except for when you get a super every few minutes but that's about it.
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
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Posted - 2014.11.24 14:40:00 -
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Destiny have as much story as dust. And destiny is an rpg game. You get the point? No? Ok. I'll tell you. None.
Ps. They already have told that they are working on destiny 2. That's like saying : we collected all that money..so now fking forget about it and lets make another game so we can get more moneyy$$y.
PSS. Dust is still amazing game on ps3. One of only few games where teamwork is a thing.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
15184
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Posted - 2014.11.24 14:58:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Ive barely played Destiny since I hit 29, but the pvp is leagues ahead of this game, mechanically speaking. I suppose if you prefer the more twitch shooter everyone's the badass style of game. I like dust pvp because there is some stretegy, teamwork, battle lines and large teams (compared to destiny). The different classes are basically the same in destiny, except for when you get a super every few minutes but that's about it. Ive never seen much tactics in DUST, just blob the city with heavies and uplinks and call it a day. Destiny pvp is satisfying and fast paced. It gives me the fps fix I need from time to time. Not to say I dont have my fair share of complaints with the game, but DUST is anything but an exceptional shooter.
Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.11.24 14:59:00 -
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Speedddogg wrote:Here are some things I've noticed:
Dust looks really bad Dust is extremely slow
Well i'd certainly hope Destiny has sharper graphics and better optimization they spent 500 MILLION DOLLARS to make that lack luster game.
The rest of your complaints are game balance and/or design opinions, which I agree with some and not others. Game feels pretty balanced outside of the LOLwreckage of ADS currently so I'm wary of any changes. Weapon wise, unless its ScR hip-fire dispersion or kick being increased or flaylock direct damage being increased, I don't agree with its change. The ARR is still fast for CQC rail rifle combat and the standard Rail Rifle isn't supposed to be good in CQC just like the TAR isn't supposed to be good in CQC, which is why I think the ScR shouldn't be good in CQC. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:04:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Ive barely played Destiny since I hit 29, but the pvp is leagues ahead of this game, mechanically speaking. I suppose if you prefer the more twitch shooter everyone's the badass style of game. I like dust pvp because there is some stretegy, teamwork, battle lines and large teams (compared to destiny). The different classes are basically the same in destiny, except for when you get a super every few minutes but that's about it. Ive never seen much tactics in DUST, just blob the city with heavies and uplinks and call it a day. Destiny pvp is satisfying and fast paced. It gives me the fps fix I need from time to time. Not to say I dont have my fair share of complaints with the game, but DUST is anything but an exceptional shooter.
I see that more an issue of players not knowing how to be tactical. That's one way good players beast in this game though, by abusing the meta. At least with Rattatai's fixes, the game has become less pigeon holed into having to run a FOTM, whether players realize this or not is their own business.
I'm sure in Destiny there is a standard easy way of play that a lot of players flock to like M16s with noob tubes in COD4 or like heavy hmgs/scout SGs are in this game. |
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
15187
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:17:00 -
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*cough* blade dancers *cough cough* lol
The game is just crisp and always intense, at least for pvp. I now have 0 SP in infantry, I have 0 interest in it here. I'll fly till the ISK disappears and then I'll wander off to something else
Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:30:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote: *cough* blade dancers *cough cough* lol
The game is just crisp and always intense, at least for pvp. I now have 0 SP in infantry, I have 0 interest in it here. I'll fly till the ISK disappears and then I'll wander off to something else
If you mean the buggy hit detection on light suits combined with knova knives by blade dancers, I agree and accidently left out the light suit buggy hit detection. That's one thing I'd love to see getting fixed and is the primary reason assault suits can get outclassed by light suits in slaying. In fact, i'd go as far as to say trying to fix the cloak is unnecessary if they just fixed hit detection on light suits. If players can't just sprint jump around in light suits and avoid 99% of gun fire then cloaks would become what they were meant to be, something used to OHKO stragglers and isolated players or sneak through enemy lines. Cloaks right now can still stealth hack so that's still working as a covert ability.
In my mind:
Scouts = Covert ops (Capping undefended/poorly defended supply depots, installations, CRUs, and objectives, aggressive sniping, and picking off stragglers.) Assault = Frontline grunts pushing the hornet's nest of objectives. Logistics = Support (Laying equipments, giving scan intel, repping and reviving) Commandos = Overwatch cover/elevation based point defense and/or AV assistance/defensive sniping. Heavies = CQC and AV point defense.
And for the most part that is how the roles work, except on scout assaults which are only effective because they often ignore damage while moving/sprinting. |
Orchi Aizen
TN1'S ARMY
70
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:51:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Orchi Aizen wrote:Dust has way more math then Destiny does and Destiny has worst server connection then Dust.Destiny may have a few things Dust doesn't have,but at least I don't get bored in 2 hours. More math? You rarely use math outside of stacking penalties and percentages. Not sure why you're glad to be using middle school algebra. I say more math because the game looks more complex and is when it comes to leveling and equipment. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:18:00 -
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I played Destiny for two weeks.
I've played Dust for almost two years.
They are not even comparable, IMO. |
Midas Fool
Prophets of the Velocirapture
535
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Posted - 2014.11.24 19:22:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I played Destiny for two weeks.
I've played Dust for two years.
To me, they are not even comparable.
I actually can't jump on the hate bandwagon. I really liked Destiny. The story was ******** but I enjoyed the Halo mechanics and shooting things in the face never felt more badass. Also Crucible felt completely recognizable and some of the most fun I've had in a while.
But now I have 3 lvl 29s, all specializations maxed, tons of exotics/legendaries for all of them. Sometimes I get a craving, but I don't go back. I'll play some when The Dark Below drops but until then I have nothing to work for.
Meee One wrote:Dust has grit.
Coming back to Dust I was instantly disoriented by the graphics and mechanics. But the strategy, teamwork, and organization in Dust immediately helped me overlook the flaws. The focus on preserving myself and my teammates is greater than in any other game. The focus on income, as well as all the math involved lights up more neurons (for me) than any game could. I love Halo and I liked Destiny, but I would rather be a strategic squadcom over a badass gunslinger any day. I even think the camera shakes and ragdolls are more immersive than either of those games.
Dust is a thinking man's game (for me). Chess has the same map over and over too.
Plus I came from Eve and this is my favorite lore of any fiction ever. I just like the cold realism.
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
514
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Posted - 2014.11.24 19:34:00 -
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Speedddogg wrote:Here are some things I've noticed:
Scouts are really fast compared to hunters Hitting somebody with a knife in this game is really unsatisfying Rail rifles take longer to charge then a fusion rifle I keep trying to double jump I crouch to try to activate my cloak Flux grenades are not arcbolt grendes Dust shotguns are worse then destiny shotguns because in Destiny you can actually get away from them Dust looks really bad Dust is extremely slow Switching weapons takes forever, and I die because of it Just because my knives are infused with electricity does not mean they will destroy that intercepto- I mean tank. (Actually have they fixed that bug yet?) Dust weapons are really boring The bolt pistol is stronger then a handcannon
Funny I played Destiny for a while and here's some things I've noticed:
The different classes are barely different Meleeing someone with a power up is cool but now it has to recharge... Fusion rifles suck compared to rail rifles Double jump is lame and made PVP extremely annoying Dust shotguns do suck that's not a Destiny observation just agreeing with you. Destiny is amazing to look at but extremely boring to play. Destiny weapons are really boring compared to the PLC, Mass Driver, Forge, etc; Game was way overhyped
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
516
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Posted - 2014.11.24 19:40:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Ive barely played Destiny since I hit 29, but the pvp is leagues ahead of this game, mechanically speaking. I suppose if you prefer the more twitch shooter everyone's the badass style of game. I like dust pvp because there is some stretegy, teamwork, battle lines and large teams (compared to destiny). The different classes are basically the same in destiny, except for when you get a super every few minutes but that's about it. Ive never seen much tactics in DUST, just blob the city with heavies and uplinks and call it a day. Destiny pvp is satisfying and fast paced. It gives me the fps fix I need from time to time. Not to say I dont have my fair share of complaints with the game, but DUST is anything but an exceptional shooter.
Huh? No teamwork in Dust? There's more teamwork involved in DUST than in any other FPS game I've ever played.
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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ca ronic
Moffit Bros
14
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Posted - 2014.11.24 21:36:00 -
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I'm going to check out destiny. I need something easier, I played dust for a while now but havent got much better at shooting things. I like dust but it really isnt much fun in one of those games where all you do is spawn and die. |
Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1998
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Posted - 2014.11.24 22:15:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Ive barely played Destiny since I hit 29, but the pvp is leagues ahead of this game, mechanically speaking. I suppose if you prefer the more twitch shooter everyone's the badass style of game. I like dust pvp because there is some stretegy, teamwork, battle lines and large teams (compared to destiny). The different classes are basically the same in destiny, except for when you get a super every few minutes but that's about it. Ive never seen much tactics in DUST, just blob the city with heavies and uplinks and call it a day. Destiny pvp is satisfying and fast paced. It gives me the fps fix I need from time to time. Not to say I dont have my fair share of complaints with the game, but DUST is anything but an exceptional shooter. There is more tactics involved in my dropship with my 4 squad mates than there is in destiny. Sure dust has problems, probably always will, but there is tactics, especially in a squad. The most tactics you find in destiny is how to push bosses off a cliff. That's okay though because it is a fast paced shooter with apace magic. Your not suppose to think too Much about it your suppose to kill stuff and have a good time. I enjoy a few games on destiny when I have a good team on that just kills people left and right, but there is never a battle line to hold or push through, there is never really communication other than where they are or what super they have, there isn't really positioning as you can just fly around.
Destiny is a good twitch shooter that brings back the glory days of halo multiplayer. Dust is an excellent tactical shooter which sets the bar for customization.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2014.11.24 22:52:00 -
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ca ronic wrote:I'm going to check out destiny. I need something easier, I played dust for a while now but havent got much better at shooting things. I like dust but it really isnt much fun in one of those games where all you do is spawn and die.
Those matches where all I can manage is to suck and die, I just try to die in ways that leave them thinking "WTF was that about?" just long enough for a teammate to kill them.
I suggest a scout with a PLC and flaylock, your still going to die a lot... a lot a lot but every kill is far more satisfying then just mowing them down with whatever happens to be the FOTM.
Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
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