DUST Search - CCP RATTATI DECLOAK BUG!

Thumb Green wrote:

sir RAVEN WING wrote:

Thumb Green wrote:

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

ITS NOT A BUG!!

With the cloak castration, they needed to add a small time where you can be invisible with your weapon out. You aren't invisible, and the red reticle appears over your head if you are aimed at.

Firing while cloaked is a bug; it's the main reason the cloak got its nerf.

I believe Rattati stated it was not a bug... or was that Rogue?

I'm having trouble finding where any dev has said that firing while cloaked wasn't a bug. However if what you said is true then one is left to wonder why this gem would be in the 1.9 patch notes if they intended people to be able to fire while cloaked.

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Another potent combination is the Cloak Field and Alpha damage weapons. We will be adding a put-down-delay to the Cloak Field (all equipment will be able to be given a delay, but the Cloak will be the only one for now), meaning it will be impossible to fire a weapon immediately from the cloaked state.

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jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 96	Posted - 2014.11.23 22:16:00 - [1] - Quote you need to fix the cloak bug asap! you can shoot twice before you are decloaked if you shoot fast enough. I was shotgun by a guy who was still 100% cloaked. Then I saw it happen 25 meters to a squad he was a heavy and I saw the scout shoot twice before he was declaoked so we tested this a few battles and it is true. it was never that bad I mean the first you are still 100% cloaked right after the second shot almost three times with Epons shotgun.
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 437	Posted - 2014.11.23 22:21:00 - [2] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: you need to fix the cloak bug asap! Shotgun bug* Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 96	Posted - 2014.11.23 22:23:00 - [3] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: jace silencerww wrote: you need to fix the cloak bug asap! Shotgun bug* NO it is with any weapon. I just picked the shotgun due to that is what I have seen most scout using this bug use.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 96	Posted - 2014.11.23 22:30:00 - [4] - Quote Any one else seen this bug?
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 96	Posted - 2014.11.23 23:32:00 - [5] - Quote CCP Rattati do you know about this bug?
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 617	Posted - 2014.11.23 23:45:00 - [6] - Quote Post (w/Dev Tag) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181007 Videos (courtesy of Kain Spero) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khwz82yRZH0&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jnU96Tif4&feature=youtu.be
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2103	Posted - 2014.11.24 00:41:00 - [7] - Quote can confirm i have been blapped from scouts and die before they have decloaked... CCP nerf cloak into the ground NOW! #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 97	Posted - 2014.11.24 01:00:00 - [8] - Quote thanks for the videos to help prove it. any weapon can be used as well.
Vesperz Algintal Core Gallente Federation 159	Posted - 2014.11.24 01:20:00 - [9] - Quote Yup, been blapped by a lot of cloaked CAL/GAL scouts. My buddy even showed me you can knife as well as CR while cloaked too. Dumb stuff going on here. "Live by honor, kill by stealth." Gal Scout since 1.0, Min Scout since 1.1
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 438	Posted - 2014.11.24 01:21:00 - [10] - Quote that's how it should be... I do admit it is very useful for my Hunter suit. I see people on the rail of Ashlands and I decide to cloak, run up there, kill the people trying to boost their KDR by being practically invincible (and in many cases, oblivious) if I never do this they will camp up there for the whole game (Last time I cleared 4 heavies, 1 scout, 7 assaults, and 1 logi without being noticed) AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2912	Posted - 2014.11.24 03:48:00 - [11] - Quote ITS NOT A BUG!! With the cloak castration, they needed to add a small time where you can be invisible with your weapon out. You aren't invisible, and the red reticle appears over your head if you are aimed at. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1841	Posted - 2014.11.24 05:10:00 - [12] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: ITS NOT A BUG!! With the cloak castration, they needed to add a small time where you can be invisible with your weapon out. You aren't invisible, and the red reticle appears over your head if you are aimed at. Firing while cloaked is a bug; it's the main reason the cloak got its nerf. Kills:21, Deaths:5, KDR: time for a smoke. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 443	Posted - 2014.11.24 05:28:00 - [13] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: ITS NOT A BUG!! With the cloak castration, they needed to add a small time where you can be invisible with your weapon out. You aren't invisible, and the red reticle appears over your head if you are aimed at. Firing while cloaked is a bug; it's the main reason the cloak got its nerf. I believe Rattati stated it was not a bug... or was that Rogue? AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1841	Posted - 2014.11.24 09:15:00 - [14] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: ITS NOT A BUG!! With the cloak castration, they needed to add a small time where you can be invisible with your weapon out. You aren't invisible, and the red reticle appears over your head if you are aimed at. Firing while cloaked is a bug; it's the main reason the cloak got its nerf. I believe Rattati stated it was not a bug... or was that Rogue? I'm having trouble finding where any dev has said that firing while cloaked wasn't a bug. However if what you said is true then one is left to wonder why this gem would be in the 1.9 patch notes if they intended people to be able to fire while cloaked. Quote: Another potent combination is the Cloak Field and Alpha damage weapons. We will be adding a put-down-delay to the Cloak Field (all equipment will be able to be given a delay, but the Cloak will be the only one for now), meaning it will be impossible to fire a weapon immediately from the cloaked state. Source. Kills:21, Deaths:5, KDR: time for a smoke. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 11969	Posted - 2014.11.24 09:23:00 - [15] - Quote Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 695	Posted - 2014.11.24 09:50:00 - [16] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: ITS NOT A BUG!! With the cloak castration, they needed to add a small time where you can be invisible with your weapon out. You aren't invisible, and the red reticle appears over your head if you are aimed at. Firing while cloaked is a bug; it's the main reason the cloak got its nerf. I believe Rattati stated it was not a bug... or was that Rogue? I'm having trouble finding where any dev has said that firing while cloaked wasn't a bug. However if what you said is true then one is left to wonder why this gem would be in the 1.9 patch notes if they intended people to be able to fire while cloaked. Quote: Another potent combination is the Cloak Field and Alpha damage weapons. We will be adding a put-down-delay to the Cloak Field (all equipment will be able to be given a delay, but the Cloak will be the only one for now), meaning it will be impossible to fire a weapon immediately from the cloaked state. Source. Funny thing is we reported this the day 1.9 came out and they told us it was some kinda 1st person rendering issue, and they assured us that the scouts were not invisible. We even posted videos of it too lol. Yet here we are. At least it's being fixed
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA Top Men. 110	Posted - 2014.11.24 16:29:00 - [17] - Quote I have a fitting with the cloack. What I have noticed is that there is in fact a noticeable delay from the moment I decloak to the moment I'm able to fire. It is actually quite a long delay. So much so that I decloak way in advance. This is good to apeace the victims. The problem is that while I do notice the delay the victims don't. They still see me as decloaking but, from my point of view I am fully decloaked. I think what they need to do is shorten the decloaking animation a bit so that the victims will actually get to see the person before they fire. All that being said I will have to disappoint the would be victims. Before the change takes place the meta is BANG!!! what the heck killed me. The new meta will be oh SH!*@ a scout!!! BANG and now you are dead. Little by little I'm using the cloak less and less. I only use it to cross the street and to hack. Meaning that even if they took the cloak away BANG you will still be dead. So, don't get too exited about the upcoming change because BANG!!! that's why.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4746	Posted - 2014.11.24 17:37:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. How? Chances are, it won't be due to past experiences, so knowing how it will be dealt with will be beneficial to both CCP and the players.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4711	Posted - 2014.11.24 17:51:00 - [19] - Quote Joel II X wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. How? Chances are, it won't be due to past experiences, so knowing how it will be dealt with will be beneficial to both CCP and the players. SoonGäó Ohhhhh, you said how. Sorry, my forum reflexes got the best of me... By doing stuff-¡-¡Gäó to it. 60% of the time it works every time. (Disclaimer: 60% is only accurate when speaking about non-CCP solutions to problems. Your results ~~may~~ will vary.) (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7306	Posted - 2014.11.24 18:05:00 - [20] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Joel II X wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. How? Chances are, it won't be due to past experiences, so knowing how it will be dealt with will be beneficial to both CCP and the players. SoonGäó Ohhhhh, you said how. Sorry, my forum reflexes got the best of me... By doing stuff-¡-¡Gäó to it. 60% of the time it works every time. (Disclaimer: 60% is only accurate when speaking about non-CCP solutions to problems. Your results ~~may~~ will vary.) Given how long they've been working on it and how many changes have been implemented trying to get it right, I'm not entirely convinced this time will work either. Long-Term Roadmap "It's very important for us to hear their feedback" Gäó

CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2574	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:15:00 - [21] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Joel II X wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. How? Chances are, it won't be due to past experiences, so knowing how it will be dealt with will be beneficial to both CCP and the players. SoonGäó Ohhhhh, you said how. Sorry, my forum reflexes got the best of me... By doing stuff-¡-¡Gäó to it. 60% of the time it works every time. (Disclaimer: 60% is only accurate when speaking about non-CCP solutions to problems. Your results ~~may~~ will vary.) Given how long they've been working on it and how many changes have been implemented trying to get it right, I'm not entirely convinced this time will work either. Ain't that the truth man. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
RedPencil Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 147	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:35:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. /\ /\ /\ CCP Rattati wrote: Today's cloak is an improvement, and the better news is that the delay works as intended and we can continue working on it, which was only possible after the code change in 1.9. I'm sure right now we just back to the early 1.8 Beware Paper cut M[;..;]M
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1847	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:48:00 - [23] - Quote RedPencil wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. /\ /\ /\ CCP Rattati wrote: Today's cloak is an improvement, and the better news is that the delay works as intended and we can continue working on it, which was only possible after the code change in 1.9. I'm sure right now we just back to the early 1.8 The delay he's talking about does work as intended as it does take longer to uncloak than before (they want uncloaking to be a more gradual thing and later there should be more of a transition going in the animation other than invisible/visible). Which makes firing while cloaked worse because people can get more shots off before being uncloaked. Kills:21, Deaths:5, KDR: time for a smoke. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Jack the Rlpper Fearless Infinity 14	Posted - 2014.11.25 04:31:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. Hey CCP I have spent $140.00 on aurum getting respecs each time and each time i get the respec and use it i get dc'd after spending my sp into what i want and when i come back on all the sp is in totally different things i would like my $140.00 worth aur refunded so I can try to get my respec and spend my sp again and hope it does not mess up I dont want to have bad service with you guys after investing so much and writing so many tickets and still nothing yet.
RedPencil Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 147	Posted - 2014.11.25 11:12:00 - [25] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: RedPencil wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. /\ /\ /\ CCP Rattati wrote: Today's cloak is an improvement, and the better news is that the delay works as intended and we can continue working on it, which was only possible after the code change in 1.9. I'm sure right now we just back to the early 1.8 The delay he's talking about does work as intended as it does take longer to uncloak than before (they want uncloaking to be a more gradual thing and later there should be more of a transition going in the animation other than invisible/visible). Which makes firing while cloaked worse because people can get more shots off before being uncloaked. 1.9 PATCH NOTES Another potent combination is the Cloak Field and Alpha damage weapons. We will be adding a put-down-delay to the Cloak Field (all equipment will be able to be given a delay, but the Cloak will be the only one for now), meaning it will be impossible to fire a weapon immediately from the cloaked state. I believe the underline statement supported to be his intended. The way they implement is really bad, Cloaker stay 100% fully cloak during the put-down-delay. Moreover the put-down-delay create a lot of awkward movement depend on your weapon. And even they set the decloak animation back to 0 to fix "shots off before being uncloaked", cloaker still be able to fire a weapon immediately from the cloaked state because the uncloak activate after put-down-delay. BTW, try to swap out variance weapons when cloak during fast movement. You will notice awkward reaction and the difference pull-up time for each weapon. To be fair, they should add put-up-delay to all weapons and equipments, not the put-down-delay or only some equipment. Beware Paper cut M[;..;]M
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2917	Posted - 2014.11.25 12:25:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. The cloak better get some buff then....Its all but useless in PC now... "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1036	Posted - 2014.11.25 12:38:00 - [27] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Not intended, being fixed in a hotfix. The cloak better get some buff then....Its all but useless in PC now... No. very useful 4 point hacking. Please support fair play!
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 97	Posted - 2014.11.25 22:40:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Rattati when will the hotfix be? if it a month from now then I am playing other games until then. I am sick of being shotgun or combat rifle for a cloaked scout. I seem 3 guys in the past 3 battles go 30+kills with 1-2 deaths using the cloaked shotgun. also camping CRUs hen you do the passive scans on them make is 15 db so cloaked scout campers are seen.


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