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shaman oga
The Dunwich Horror
3269
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:39:00 -
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I've never been a fan of them, but till they are here, they should work, but they don't.
Point AS to a letter >
Scan >
No margin of error >
A millisecond after the letter start blink >
Are you ******* kidding me?
The margin of error of margin of error is more or less 50%.
Situational awareness commonly called passive scan.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5013
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:41:00 -
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The redberry might have been out of range when you performed the scan, then sprinted to the point.
My advice to you, playa...
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shaman oga
The Dunwich Horror
3269
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:52:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:The redberry might have been out of range when you performed the scan, then sprinted to the point.
Impossible, i was close enough to scan the whole null cannon area, he started hacking just after the scan animation finished.
Situational awareness commonly called passive scan.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
681
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Posted - 2014.11.21 17:34:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:The redberry might have been out of range when you performed the scan, then sprinted to the point. Impossible, i was close enough to scan the whole null cannon area, he started hacking just after the scan animation finished.
If I'm lagging, I'll sometimes get two messages pop up, one on top of the other: one 'no margin of error', and one 'some margin of error'. Could apply here, maybe...? Were you lagging?
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1513
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Posted - 2014.11.21 17:44:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I've never been a fan of them, but till they are here, they should work, but they don't.
Point AS to a letter >
Scan >
No margin of error >
A millisecond after the letter start blink >
Are you ******* kidding me?
The margin of error of margin of error is more or less 50%.
Scout perhaps? Dampened enough, the scanner doesn't give the 'some margin' of error.
This seems to be one of those things CCP hasn't really told us.
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shaman oga
The Dunwich Horror
3271
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Posted - 2014.11.21 17:52:00 -
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@Dreis No, not more than usual
@Repe Susi Yes, it was a min scout, idk if CCP has implemented this feature.
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19243
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:30:00 -
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Active scanner messages are incredibly glitchy.
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
976
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:18:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Active scanner messages are incredibly glitchy.
Unless he didn't actually scan him.
Remember, all OP says is he scanned at the direction of the letter. How far was he? What was the angle of his scan? (while it's safe to assume 60, there are 90 and 30 angle variants)
If he scans an objective directly at it from 90m with a 100m scan, and I'm 20m from the objective, sprinting to it, he won't scan me simply because I'm not in range. He gets NO MARGIN OF ERROR message. I arrive at objective 2 seconds later and start hacking.
If he is closer, than the scanner's angle comes into play and he's covering less area. It's easy for me to be coming from the side, just be out of his scan angle, he gets a "No Margin" message, and then I start hacking the objective.
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:18:00 -
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le me as Gallente logi lvl 5 and proximity scan proto: scanning A... Nothing blink and ****No margin of error***
a gallente scout Gk0... 2 complex damps... and cloack *** jajajaja that fool think he can scan you bro, nice try ***
Maybe if the Duvolle Focused Active Scanner has 10Seconds visibility and 30 cooling... could be a option. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19246
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:19:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Active scanner messages are incredibly glitchy. Unless he didn't actually scan him. Remember, all OP says is he scanned at the direction of the letter. How far was he? What was the angle of his scan? (while it's safe to assume 60, there are 90 and 30 angle variants) If he scans an objective directly at it from 90m with a 100m scan, and I'm 20m from the objective, sprinting to it, he won't scan me simply because I'm not in range. He gets NO MARGIN OF ERROR message. I arrive at objective 2 seconds later and start hacking. If he is closer, than the scanner's angle comes into play and he's covering less area. It's easy for me to be coming from the side, just be out of his scan angle, he gets a "No Margin" message, and then I start hacking the objective.
From my own observations I frequently note that I am pointing a scanner directly at someone who I am completely certain is there, but they are not necessarily lit up.
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shaman oga
Krullefor Organization
3274
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:37:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Active scanner messages are incredibly glitchy. Unless he didn't actually scan him. Remember, all OP says is he scanned at the direction of the letter. How far was he? What was the angle of his scan? (while it's safe to assume 60, there are 90 and 30 angle variants) If he scans an objective directly at it from 90m with a 100m scan, and I'm 20m from the objective, sprinting to it, he won't scan me simply because I'm not in range. He gets NO MARGIN OF ERROR message. I arrive at objective 2 seconds later and start hacking. If he is closer, than the scanner's angle comes into play and he's covering less area. It's easy for me to be coming from the side, just be out of his scan angle, he gets a "No Margin" message, and then I start hacking the objective.
You can have all the doubt you want on my word, i know i've scanned the point with an angle and from a distance which would have lit up everything on that point.
Nothing appeared, no margin of error message, but there were a scout and a link down there.
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6055
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:12:00 -
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From what I understand, you only get the Margin of Error message when the dampened merc is relatively close to the range of the Active Scanner.
It would be nice to know what that requirement actually is.
My guess is that it was a max dampened suit and wasn't high enough a profile to get a Margin of Error message.
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CharacterNameWasTaken
268
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:16:00 -
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Aidualc wrote:le me as Gallente logi lvl 5 and proximity scan proto: scanning A... Nothing blink and ****No margin of error***
a gallente scout Gk0... 2 complex damps... and cloack *** jajajaja that fool think he can scan you bro, nice try ***
Maybe if the Duvolle Focused Active Scanner has 10Seconds visibility and 30 cooling... could be a option.
Could people that dont speak english doe thwir first language please run things through a translator first. Plaease.
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game
203
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:36:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Active scanner messages are incredibly glitchy. Unless he didn't actually scan him. Remember, all OP says is he scanned at the direction of the letter. How far was he? What was the angle of his scan? (while it's safe to assume 60, there are 90 and 30 angle variants) If he scans an objective directly at it from 90m with a 100m scan, and I'm 20m from the objective, sprinting to it, he won't scan me simply because I'm not in range. He gets NO MARGIN OF ERROR message. I arrive at objective 2 seconds later and start hacking. If he is closer, than the scanner's angle comes into play and he's covering less area. It's easy for me to be coming from the side, just be out of his scan angle, he gets a "No Margin" message, and then I start hacking the objective.
I was with him, we were at 30 metres from the objective and their spawn was 10 metres behind the letter( so max 40 metres) ,less than a second after the scan , someone was hacking, and he was not a ghost
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2597
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:41:00 -
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Vaguely relevant, but does anyone know the requirement for a "Large Margin of Error" scan? I've assumed it's when there are multiple dampened enemies within the scan but haven't quantified it.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6061
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:43:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Vaguely relevant, but does anyone know the requirement for a "Large Margin of Error" scan? I've assumed it's when there are multiple dampened enemies within the scan but haven't quantified it.
I think that was the conclussion others have come to as well, but I don't know that any testing has been done to understand where that line is anymore than the standard Margin of Error line.
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Sinboto Simmons
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
6535
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:35:00 -
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Hmm, so they brought that back?
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shaman oga
Krullefor Organization
3275
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Posted - 2014.11.22 10:58:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Vaguely relevant, but does anyone know the requirement for a "Large Margin of Error" scan? I've assumed it's when there are multiple dampened enemies within the scan but haven't quantified it. I think that was the conclussion others have come to as well, but I don't know that any testing has been done to understand where that line is anymore than the standard Margin of Error line.
I always thought it was binary:
"No margin of error" if there is nothing or everything is lit up.
"Little margin of error" if there is something dampened.
I've never seen "large margin of error" even if i've probably scanned multiple dampened targets.
With mixed targets (dampened and not) you still get "little margin of error".
Definitely require some test.
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game
203
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Posted - 2014.11.22 11:12:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Vaguely relevant, but does anyone know the requirement for a "Large Margin of Error" scan? I've assumed it's when there are multiple dampened enemies within the scan but haven't quantified it. I think that was the conclussion others have come to as well, but I don't know that any testing has been done to understand where that line is anymore than the standard Margin of Error line. I always thought it was binary: "No margin of error" if there is nothing or everything is lit up. "Little margin of error" if there is something dampened. I've never seen "large margin of error" even if i've probably scanned multiple dampened targets. With mixed targets (dampened and not) you still get "little margin of error". Definitely require some test.
It's binary, if you scan everything or nothing output is "no margin of error" if not" little margin"
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Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
407
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Posted - 2014.11.22 11:35:00 -
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I've scanned heavies with the 20db one before and no dot. It happens occasionally, not sure what it is. |
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
259
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Posted - 2014.11.22 11:38:00 -
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apparently if you fit 2 damps and a proto cloak, and cloak up as soon as you are scanned, it removes you from enemy scans.
apparently.
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shaman oga
Krullefor Organization
3275
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Posted - 2014.11.22 11:40:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:apparently if you fit 2 damps and a proto cloak, and cloak up as soon as you are scanned, it removes you from enemy scans.
apparently.
I confirm the target was cloaked when i've killed him.
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
389
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Posted - 2014.11.22 11:56:00 -
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It would be nice if the messages were different colors catching which is which is very difficult where a lot of tacnet chatter.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
2070
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Posted - 2014.11.22 11:58:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I've never been a fan of them, but till they are here, they should work, but they don't.
Point AS to a letter >
Scan >
No margin of error >
A millisecond after the letter start blink >
Are you ******* kidding me?
The margin of error of margin of error is more or less 50%.
if there is a margin of error best kiss your ass cause its gonna get raped real soon...
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