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Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 13831	Posted - 2014.11.20 14:55:00 - [1] - Quote If you could pick one of these specializations to remove, what would you pick: Scout Assault Logistics Sentinel Commando And most importantly, why would you remove it? I think I would go with Scout or Sentinel, simply because they're the only ones I can't stand using. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Cavani1EE7 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 536	Posted - 2014.11.20 14:58:00 - [2] - Quote Atiim wrote: If you could pick one of these specializations to remove, what would you pick: Scout Assault Logistics Sentinel Commando And most importantly, why would you remove it? I think I would go with Scout or Sentinel, simply because they're the only ones I can't stand using. Scout because obv reasons. Take a bow
rithu T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 247	Posted - 2014.11.20 14:58:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: If you could pick one of these specializations to remove, what would you pick: Scout Assault Logistics Sentinel Commando And most importantly, why would you remove it? I think I would go with Scout or Sentinel, simply because they're the only ones I can't stand using. none, i m a scout. and i need victims.
abdullah muzaffar G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 66	Posted - 2014.11.20 14:59:00 - [4] - Quote commando, overlaps a bit too much with the assault, although i would want the basic frames to be removed instead, as they are completely useless once you specialize.
SILENT GIANT FATHERS-AND-SONS 173	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:00:00 - [5] - Quote people are gonna hate me for this, logi. Because I can fit my scout w the same stuff and have roughly the same equip, same hp, and so on. Or dont remove just give logi a little buff so my scout doesn't do a better job.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona 535	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:01:00 - [6] - Quote Atiim wrote: If you could pick one of these specializations to remove, what would you pick: Scout Assault Logistics Sentinel Commando And most importantly, why would you remove it? I think I would go with Scout or Sentinel, simply because they're the only ones I can't stand using. Those pesky little scouts Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Immortal John Ripper 25635	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:01:00 - [7] - Quote Assault. Rename scout to assault. Tacos.
General John Ripper 25635	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:01:00 - [8] - Quote Assault. Rename scout to assault. Tacos.
Infine Sentinel Better Hide R Die 735	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:04:00 - [9] - Quote SILENT GIANT wrote: people are gonna hate me for this, logi. Because I can fit my scout w the same stuff and have roughly the same equip, same hp, and so on. Or dont remove just give logi a little buff so my scout doesn't do a better job. You're Scout can logi better then my minmatar logi? I find that hard to believe . Local forum Cannibal.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2530	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:06:00 - [10] - Quote Removing the stigma attached to scouts for a moment, I for one love the fast speedy role of a scout. I find that is an enjoyable way to play regardless of what the task is. I would not want to remove any role if I am honest even for the heavy class. While I dislike hmg sentinels I am a fan of the forge gun. If anything I would probably have to go with the Commando because it offers the smallest difference from any of the other roles. It is in effect a slightly modified heavy suit and that big hitbox is noticeable. It also happens to be the least used of the classes if I remember correctly. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2595	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:06:00 - [11] - Quote Commando It's the most redundant. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 136	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:06:00 - [12] - Quote Pilot, for very good reasons... oh wait. Yes, I'm that desperate...
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 422	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:11:00 - [13] - Quote I would remove the Forum Warrior. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 13831	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:12:00 - [14] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: I would remove the Forum Warrior. But I spent all my SP in that class D: The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Kira Lannister Go Flux Yourself. 2423	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:14:00 - [15] - Quote Remove Minmatar from the game. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
SILENT GIANT FATHERS-AND-SONS 173	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:29:00 - [16] - Quote Infine Sentinel wrote: SILENT GIANT wrote: people are gonna hate me for this, logi. Because I can fit my scout w the same stuff and have roughly the same equip, same hp, and so on. Or dont remove just give logi a little buff so my scout doesn't do a better job. You're Scout can logi better then my minmatar logi? I find that hard to believe . No my scout can logi better than my logi. I haven't tried dumping sp into logi yet and stacking on hp to make it less squishy than my scout, but the equip I use for support my scout can carry just fine, has around same hp, and provides intel to squad (if i ran w one). Logi doesn't assault like my assault and scout seems to be able to fill logi role no prob. I think logi should be next to get a little tuning. Or I just need to spend some sp on my logi before talking out my ass
Copharus Arkana Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:32:00 - [17] - Quote Sentinels. Because they are not a class, they are a skilless EZmode crutch and only scrubs use any kind of heavy.
SILENT GIANT FATHERS-AND-SONS 173	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:43:00 - [18] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Commando It's the most redundant. Eh, I use mine as the king of AV. It fills that role perfect
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1078	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:47:00 - [19] - Quote Copharus Arkana wrote: Sentinels. Because they are not a class, they are a skilless EZmode crutch and only scrubs use any kind of heavy. He typed this while cloaked up in his scout suit.
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair 72	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:53:00 - [20] - Quote Copharus Arkana wrote: Sentinels. Because they are not a class, they are a skilless EZmode crutch and only scrubs use any kind of heavy. Scrubs use heavies in the wrong way, like murder taxi lavs filled with heavies or rail rifle heavies etc. When used as they are meant they are not a skilless easy mode crutch, they are a very useful means of defending a position. I'm sorry you are too lazy to counter them properly as they are easy to kill if you don't run straight at them like most of you do. Anyways, I don't think any role should be removed. As the logi scouts point out, their scout suits do fill the logi role too well and this needs to be addressed. Yes, I'm trolling. Get over it.

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8110	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:54:00 - [21] - Quote I don't think anything should be removed. IF anything, I'd have to say commando, even if scouts are OP. Scouts have a unique role, and needs adjusted, not removed. Commando's just seem like a mess of confusion between the heavy and assault Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair 72	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:55:00 - [22] - Quote Dust User wrote: Copharus Arkana wrote: Sentinels. Because they are not a class, they are a skilless EZmode crutch and only scrubs use any kind of heavy. He typed this while cloaked up in his scout suit. Exactly. And you talk about an easy mode crutch. Lol Yes, I'm trolling. Get over it.
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 894	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:56:00 - [23] - Quote Remove the pilot suit.... oh wait -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Copharus Arkana Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:58:00 - [24] - Quote Dust User wrote: Copharus Arkana wrote: Sentinels. Because they are not a class, they are a skilless EZmode crutch and only scrubs use any kind of heavy. He typed this while cloaked up in his scout suit. A flimsy scout? Pass. I use something far more superior.
Vesperz Algintal Core Gallente Federation 156	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:06:00 - [25] - Quote SILENT GIANT wrote: people are gonna hate me for this, logi. Because I can fit my scout w the same stuff and have roughly the same equip, same hp, and so on. Or dont remove just give logi a little buff so my scout doesn't do a better job. I call supreme bullshit on this one, I run Min logi as well. "Live by honor, kill by stealth." Gal Scout since 1.0, Min Scout since 1.1
SILENT GIANT FATHERS-AND-SONS 173	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:30:00 - [26] - Quote Vesperz wrote: SILENT GIANT wrote: people are gonna hate me for this, logi. Because I can fit my scout w the same stuff and have roughly the same equip, same hp, and so on. Or dont remove just give logi a little buff so my scout doesn't do a better job. I call supreme bullshit on this one, I run Min logi as well. Really? Is it better than I'm thinking? I gave up on that suit cause the scout was faster, could be built similar enough, w somewhat of ewar built in. Heck, you guys are making me want to dump some more sp in that thing. Trying to maxout other cores currently but if its better than I expected I'll chuck some more sp into it. I never seen the need to carry that much equip. Fill slots H/L/E with all adv gear and the cost effectiveness of that suit kinda makes it not worth running. Granted thats my nobody/noob opinion.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 361	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:36:00 - [27] - Quote Is merging commandos and assault an option? Well one of those, I guess commando because to little slots, not enough, cpu pg, poor speed, and poor hitbox. I don't get it all strength and they didn't think to add a frame onto there legs for mobility... The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
The Master Race Immortal Guides 361	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:36:00 - [28] - Quote Is merging commandos and assault an option? Well one of those, I guess commando because to little slots, not enough, cpu pg, poor speed, and poor hitbox. I don't get it all strength and they didn't think to add a frame onto there legs for mobility... I demand pants. The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 104	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:40:00 - [29] - Quote Assaults, because they refuse to fit eWar, lose to eWar, and then act like Scouts have this insane advantage they don't have access to. See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
Myron Kundera The Generals 107	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:43:00 - [30] - Quote Atiim wrote: If you could pick one of these specializations to remove, what would you pick: Scout - 3 Assault - 1 Logistics -1 Sentinel -1 Commando - 2 And most importantly, why would you remove it? I think I would go with Scout or Sentinel, simply because they're the only ones I can't stand using. I think all clases have a place ingame. It-¦s CCP-¦s fault that Scouts assault better than Assaults, that Logi-¦s are squishy and slow, that Sentinels have a wingun at CQ and major resists to damage, that Assaults have personality issues (no role whatsoever), that Commandos feel UP compared to Sentinels and OP compared to Assaults. If i have no choice i would say Commandos, i hate the Scout class more cause since the Cloak came out they-¦re OP as fck, but still, some good placed nerfs can fix the most OP of classes cough* Scout cough Sentinel. I would take out the Commando Class, give those bonuses to Assaults and use the free space to put the Pilot class. "Greed, the forgotten mental disease" "Spray and pray makes my day" "Will use proto gear in self defense"

Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 104	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:51:00 - [31] - Quote I think that Assaults should be given a class role that increases the clip size of their light weapon (as long as that weapon has more than 1 shot) Unique twist, big advantage See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
Ku Shala The Generals 1020	Posted - 2014.11.20 17:36:00 - [32] - Quote remove logi make a subclass in all frame sizes for it ..... assault logi scout logi Heavy logi :D *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist *Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
Bax Zanith Sinfonia1898 227	Posted - 2014.11.20 17:43:00 - [33] - Quote Copharus Arkana wrote: Dust User wrote: Copharus Arkana wrote: Sentinels. Because they are not a class, they are a skilless EZmode crutch and only scrubs use any kind of heavy. He typed this while cloaked up in his scout suit. A flimsy scout? Pass. I use something far more superior. Its a tank. You wouldn't las a second outside of one. "You're either the cow or the butcher."
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2053	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:05:00 - [34] - Quote Sentinels. Any non-sentinel vs. non-sentinel firefight can be won by either side. But at close or even semi-close range a sentinel is guaranteed to win vs. a non-heavy. This is imbalanced and encourages cheap tactics like teleporting REs.
Midas Fool Prophets of the Velocirapture 532	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:18:00 - [35] - Quote I don't see a good purpose in this exercise. This type of trolling is what creates divisionism. [Ironically generic forum signature here]
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 104	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:44:00 - [36] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: I don't see a good purpose in this exercise. This type of trolling is what creates divisionism. I think they should just add a troll frame. with a 5/5/5 slot layout, strong ewar, 1000 base ehp, and 999 cpu and 999 pg. Then the rest of us that play, practice, and specialize can qq when our OP suits go blap to their shotgun-railrifles that fire RE's. See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 1976	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:53:00 - [37] - Quote Copharus Arkana wrote: Dust User wrote: Copharus Arkana wrote: Sentinels. Because they are not a class, they are a skilless EZmode crutch and only scrubs use any kind of heavy. He typed this while cloaked up in his scout suit. A flimsy scout? Pass. I use something far more superior. So a brick tanked cal scout then? Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair 78	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:59:00 - [38] - Quote Mahal Daj wrote: I think that Assaults should be given a class role that increases the clip size of their light weapon (as long as that weapon has more than 1 shot) Unique twist, big advantage Ummm... minmatar assault? 5 percent clip size to projectile weapons per level? Some s#!+ like that
G Felix Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 190	Posted - 2014.11.20 19:00:00 - [39] - Quote Mahal Daj wrote: Assaults, because they refuse to fit eWar, lose to eWar, and then act like Scouts have this insane advantage they don't have access to. If the "Insane advantage" they're referring to is higher cpu/pg pools, more equipment slots, better shield regen, dramatically increased speed, smaller hitbox, and the ability to use cloaks efficiently, then I'm not sure they're too far off. Ewar is huge, yes, and scouts are decidedly the best at it, by design. But the issues with scout balance are much more varied and complex than you are willing to acknowledge. Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2230	Posted - 2014.11.20 19:03:00 - [40] - Quote I don't think we need to remove any classes from the game. The variance in suits is one of the things that makes Dust the game that it is. That said, I do think something needs to be done to stop the prevalence of scouts and heavies. They are simply too popular, IMO. Something needs to be done to bring the usage of the other suits more in line.

Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2110	Posted - 2014.11.20 19:54:00 - [41] - Quote Assaults or commandos, one of the two. I would say... I love my assaults, but commies are unique. Neither have a role besides Killy more things and make them deader. It's really quite **** in that regard. Both need retooling towards the obby gameplay that DUST is based on. But if we were to just delete a suit just now, it's be assault for being so generic. The commies have something unique to the other classes Because you wanted to be something you're not. A hero. Do you feel like one now?


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