|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2244
|
Posted - 2014.11.21 05:34:00 -
[1] - Quote
Zatara Rought wrote:Apparently the weapon was overperforming at CQC where it should have been 'less good' compared to other rifles.
But it wasn't.
Says whom?
Perhaps you know something I don't, but I've not seen any data on this, and FWIW I asked about looking closer at range information in order to more closely identify which piece of RR perfomance to nerf/buff -- and I don't think Rattati responded.
If you have information, I'm all ears, but my sense was that the RR was already woefully inadequate in CQC and only really excelled at range, so if you're going to nerf something to make it's K/S worse and drive down usage, perhaps it does, in fact lie in its long range performance -- even if that is at odds in terms of its primary use and requires a long range nerf similar to the delay increase.
But without data, we'll never really know.....thus my interest when you alluded to this being evaluated.
Zatara Rought wrote:The quadruple kick ruined the weapon in CQC.
I swapped to sidearm.
I agree. I swapped to the BrAR/SMG and am about to go back to the ARR/ScP for many of them. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2244
|
Posted - 2014.11.21 05:43:00 -
[2] - Quote
DeathwindRising wrote:he flat out said that he nerfed the RR because it was too popular. it actually wasnt OP at all according to his data. he simply wants to force us to use other weapons. which is of course, the most BS reason ive ever heard for nerfing something.
What he said is it was BOTH overpopular/overused and overpowered (in terms of K/S).
I made the same mistake you did when I read this post. You have to pay close attention to the colors in the K/S graph -- the RR was leading in K/S and far and away leading in usage. If I may be so bold, it appears to me that Rattati was concerned with both. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2248
|
Posted - 2014.11.21 15:50:00 -
[3] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:The evidence was there. No amount of evidence will convince someone who refuses to listen.
The evidence was there for it being overwhelmingly popular and marginally more effective.
To my knowledge: There was no distance data evaluated. There was no game mode data evaluated.
How can one tell which function of the RR to nerf if we're not looking at all the data?
As a user of these weapons, Deathwind and Mina and Zatara and others make very good points and ask very valid questions that haven't been answered.
Moving past that, do we know the effects of the recent nerf? Has it worked? Was it too much? Was it not enough? Is there updated rifle data to share? Does it compare at range and up close performance? Does it show different game modes?
No additional evidence is needed if your mind is already made up.
Do you even use the RR or ARR, goonbro? |
|
|
|