DUST Search - CQC QQ neuters RR at Long Range

DeathwindRising wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Yup. Click my name. Find out everything about me in two pages of responses.

Confirming I never give suggestions, make proposals on PC, Faction Warfare, sentinel balance, AV, ADS nerfs and where they fall apart with recommendations on how to adjust.

I never provide meaningful feedback on logistics or commandos because I'm too busy trolling.

I have never stated that I find the neutering of HAVs detrimental to the game or provided suggestions on how to rebalance forge guns so that the breach and standard are useful at something other than ghetto sniper.

I have never weighed in seriously on the problems inherent to the RR and AR.

Totally never contribute meaningfully to anything ever.

I just occupy myself calling people on their bullsh*t.

Confirming that my commentary has no basis on theinterest in a healthy game or sane community.

By the way, the acknowledgement of misrepresenting Rattati's words and moving along with productive discussion was all that I wanted from this.

You did that. Im done poking at you now.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181932&find=unread

nuff said

EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.


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Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5216	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:39:00 - [1] - Quote Rattati said the weapon was being nerfed because the average kills per spawn was inordinately higher than any other weapon. That's not saying it's too popular. It's saying that the KDR of the rail rifle itself is unnaturally high. Rather akin to hearing vehicle drivers say that going 40/0 in a match consistently is completely balanced. The number of kills made with the rail rifle was disproportionately higher than the number of deaths while carrying the rifle. This is an indication that something is out of whack, not that it is "too popular." It was too popular because it was statistically too effective. Much as I love banging on dev and cpm heads if you take a statement out of context with everything else thatperson has said you have failed reading comprehension or you are deliberately attacking their character/intelligence/integrity. This is pretty much textbook personal attack. I suggest growing up and putting on the adult pants before posting. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5220	Posted - 2014.11.21 10:59:00 - [2] - Quote Deathwind what part of "this was not based solely off of or even mostly upon, popularity" are you failing to comprehend? The thing that was stated as concerning was the K/S rating, then the popularity is attributed to the K/S rating. Popularity indicates to a dev "I should look at why." If the weapon enjoys a 10 rail rifles for every assault rifle being run but they both average one kill per spawn then the weapons are in balance, people just like the rail rifle more. Now if there's the same 10/1 ratio but there are 5 kills per spawn for the AR getting one kill per spawn then it's fairly obvious that something is out of whack. Knock off the popularity contest bullsh*t. It's deceptive and disingenuous. You don't like the change, fine. If you want it improved then make suggestions that don't involve "I want the old imbalance back." EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5221	Posted - 2014.11.21 12:20:00 - [3] - Quote My problem is not that something is screwy. I don't like the new RR either. However my problem is with your assertions that it was a popular opinion nerf. Dismissing the supporting data, which was shown, shows a lack of interest in balance and more interest in raging that your toy takin away. If that is not your intent quit being a willful idiot by saying it was nerfed based on popularity. Because the assertion is bull. The reasons were shown and the logic was sound even if IMHO the balance pass went wrong. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5229	Posted - 2014.11.21 14:36:00 - [4] - Quote The evidence was there. No amount of evidence will convince someone who refuses to listen. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5242	Posted - 2014.11.22 11:04:00 - [5] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Tebu Gan wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Misquoting a dev is a bannable offense Rather high and mighty there aren't you. I am pretty sure he was having a laugh here / trolling a little. I doubt he was being serious..... Doubt it. People in this thread are deliberately misrepresenting his words and basically trying to rally people to the cause of making him out to be an idiot. While the dislike of the RR changes is fine, people are deliberately attacking Rattati by misquoting him, using his words out of context and using false information to push their otherwise valid cocerns. The tactics being used are juvenile, transparent and bluntly insulting to anyone who has tried to leave the schoolyard behind them in their adult life. This thread holds no value to the community. And when the people involved are called on this behavior and the fact that they are violating the TOS and they are using patently false information they excuse their bluntly obnoxious behavior with straight asspulls of logic to make everyone else the ones at fault. Bluntly there are no less than four posters who should have been banned for deliberately misrepresenting the words of the devs to create a riot on the forums. The fact that they haven't been banned is nothing short of amazing. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5242	Posted - 2014.11.22 14:51:00 - [6] - Quote Yup. Click my name. Find out everything about me in two pages of responses. Confirming I never give suggestions, make proposals on PC, Faction Warfare, sentinel balance, AV, ADS nerfs and where they fall apart with recommendations on how to adjust. I never provide meaningful feedback on logistics or commandos because I'm too busy trolling. I have never stated that I find the neutering of HAVs detrimental to the game or provided suggestions on how to rebalance forge guns so that the breach and standard are useful at something other than ghetto sniper. I have never weighed in seriously on the problems inherent to the RR and AR. Totally never contribute meaningfully to anything ever. I just occupy myself calling people on their bullsh*t. Confirming that my commentary has no basis on theinterest in a healthy game or sane community. By the way, the acknowledgement of misrepresenting Rattati's words and moving along with productive discussion was all that I wanted from this. You did that. Im done poking at you now. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5242	Posted - 2014.11.22 15:38:00 - [7] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Yup. Click my name. Find out everything about me in two pages of responses. Confirming I never give suggestions, make proposals on PC, Faction Warfare, sentinel balance, AV, ADS nerfs and where they fall apart with recommendations on how to adjust. I never provide meaningful feedback on logistics or commandos because I'm too busy trolling. I have never stated that I find the neutering of HAVs detrimental to the game or provided suggestions on how to rebalance forge guns so that the breach and standard are useful at something other than ghetto sniper. I have never weighed in seriously on the problems inherent to the RR and AR. Totally never contribute meaningfully to anything ever. I just occupy myself calling people on their bullsh*t. Confirming that my commentary has no basis on theinterest in a healthy game or sane community. By the way, the acknowledgement of misrepresenting Rattati's words and moving along with productive discussion was all that I wanted from this. You did that. Im done poking at you now. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181932&find=unread nuff said considering that OP is trollbait? Yeah, nuff said. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5242	Posted - 2014.11.22 16:17:00 - [8] - Quote Draden Brohiem wrote: So I use the rail, but I'm no ground gamer anymore. My respec has about 95% of my points into tanks. I'd say drop the charge to 3 seconds, and let everything else be. We don't need 10 pages of whining for that do we? Funny how none of you vouched for other rifles like this?! The AR was abysmal for over a year! it's a 0.6 seconds, which is significant time delay for shots fired. 3 seconds would be increasing the delay by a multiple of 5. trick is, the change to the charge time that was meant to bring it to heel in CQC really hoses it at long range too EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5273	Posted - 2014.11.24 10:35:00 - [9] - Quote Generally I have found that the shorter and more trollish responses from people usually originate when their minds are occupied doing actual work. Seems to hold true with the CCP devs too. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.