Shields should carry some kind of balancing penalty, not sure it should be speed though. The increased sig radius in eve, is that the equivalent to hit box or profile in Dust?

Dear Players,

We are going to add separate strafe penalties to HP modules. We will not be reducing normal speed, nor running speed, only left-right speed, making the "dodging" of bullets more difficult, and Sentinels lack of mobility to become a real vulnerability when stacking eHP.

The calculations will theoretically be based off of relative mass (Scouts) and total mass (Sentinels). Medium Frames will not be affected as much as these two. Basic Frames may end up not having any penalties at all.

This is quite blunt, but it's been a long time coming.

Extenders and Armor Plates are obviously the focus here, and Reactives and Ferroscales may be omitted in the first pass.

P.S. Medium speeds may get shaken up in light of the Assault HP boost , Logistics may get a speed boost, Commandos as well, Assault speed reduction, all very small.

And let's be fair to shield tanks.

Make ferroscale and reactives carry the same penalty as extenders.

After all they add similar EHP values.

Giving 66 HP shield extenders a strafe penalty but exempting 70 HP plates seems rather...

One-sided.

I've always hoped for Dust to be a Sci-Fi Military Sim/MMOFPS not a Sci-Fi Arcade shooter.

Also, strafing isn't about personal skill, it is about wiggling joysticks around and thinking that it is a display of skill.

I would hope that strategy would be more important than that. As it is now, all strafing encourages strategy wise is "run around from place to place wiggling and twitching my way to a high KDR, **** helping my team I'm here for the kills". At least that is my impression of it given what I have seen in my time here.

It's something that breaks hit detection.

That's not skill that's a mechanical exploit dependent upon poor base mechanics and lag.

Rattati all the ideas you've had so far have been pretty on point, but I really think messing with the already severely clunky movement DUST 514 has is going to only make things worse for everyone.

Back when we had the super fast strafe speed this game was A LOT more fun and intense because everything felt a lot more fast paced. It was not balanced, and we sulked but adjusted to it. I know you want to bring balance to Scouts and you're desperately looking at all these things Scouts are good at and just looking to tune all of them back one by one until your stats start to say that Scouts are killing and dying just as much as any other suit, but I really think you're not searching in the right places.

If you mess with something as integral as "strafe speed" in a first person shooter you go down that route of just making the game more and more clunky. The movement in this game already suffers from getting caught on corners, hills, random geometry, and just overall feeling really floaty.

Rattati, Scouts became broken in 1.8 because (a) active scanner nerf (b) Scout EWAR buff. You've already solved the problem of bringing balance to Scouts amongst eachother but the problem remains of EWAR being too powerful and exclusive to them. Now, the reason it is overpowered is because this game will put a red chevron above everyone's head who's around you if your scanners pick them up. You are given the EXACT location of an enemy as a Scout. This simple piece of information completely changes the encounter and is what makes playing a Scout incredibly powerful in this game.

If you were to do one thing to balance Scouts and EWAR altogether would be to remove the chevrons that appear on your screen. Make passive scanning exclusive to your radar (that thing in the top left of the screen). Scouts would then still have the EWAR advantage because they would know ahead that there are enemies nearby because their suit picks up a signature, but their exact location would still require the Scout to get visual contact and thus exposing himself. Right now that's the problem. I can play a Caldari Scout and I never have to make myself vulnerable because the game tells me exactly where I need to be to not be in line of sight. I can dance around a pole with a Heavy and have him never see me because the game tells me exactly where he is behind it. Preemptively knowing exactly where to shoot and always getting the first shot is the problem with Scouts. I don't know how else to stress this, but it's desperately what needs to be addressed.

This game would benefit tremendously from this one simple change to passive scans, and I guarantee you'd see a sharp drop in the number of Scouts you see dominating games. Please don't mess with movement speed, especially if it's reducing it.

Let's just nail everyone's feet to the ground and get this over with.

Who said anyone was anti-fps?

Anti-strafing =/= anti-fps

This still doesn't say how anti-strafing == anti-FPS.

the fact that you can type this and come off sincerely is amazing and frightening. teach me this secret so I can troll better.