HP modules, as in, shield extenders and armor plating?

extender stacking is also under the scope

Caldari scout OPness, might someone say

The only reason cal scouts seem overpowered is because of hit box issues. There's no need to destroy an entire tanking style because one suit has a broken hit box.

The CalScout hitbox isn't stupid or broken. It is magical.

Kind of a stretch. It's quite clear, to me, that Rattati is trying to combat EHP tanking as a whole by adding more penalties to Armor Plates and Shield Extenders by way of reducing strafe speed. The logic, toward extenders specifically, is that the module itself has weight, not necessarily the shield. Thereby, he's not saying shield extenders are OP at all and even if he were he's hinting at a counter-balance through Myrofibrals/Kinetic Catalyzers increasing strafe speed, as stated in an earlier post.

The premise there is that he's trying to increase the benefits of utility while further discouraging simply stacking HP modules on everything. Is it the correct way to do it? That's up for debate. But he never once said that "Caldari Scouts are over-powered because of shield extenders". If anything, this change is more focused toward Sentinel's who arguably have no other reason to use any other module -BESIDES- HP tanking modules.

It's a sound idea. Sentinel wants to stack plates/extenders, he's going to lose mobility, which makes him more vulnerable. Something I'm not entirely against because Sentinel's shouldn't be about mobility anyway. Scouts would be affected as well, which is good, because there's a lot of scouts out there (not just Caldari) that just brick tank and become a faster Assault.

The worst that can happen is we try it, no-one likes it, and we revert back to the old ways. Honestly, I -liked- the way the strafe speeds were BEFORE the strafe speed increase bug back in 1.5 (I think) so I'm all for it.

Caldari scout OPness, might someone say

Personally I don't like the idea of shields reducing movement, it doesn't seem to make sense.

I agree they should have a penalty to reduce the effectiveness of shield stacked Caldari scouts. Exactly what penalty, I'm not sure. Scout only regen reduction, gets worse with tier?

Magic hitbox or not, if there's a single Super Strafer who has earned a rightful nerf, it is the CalScout.

Slap a couple ferro or reactive plates on a shield-tanked CalScout, and become the very best Super Strafer in the game. Stand toe-to-toe with Assaults with twice your HP. Slug it out, wiggle-wiggle and win. And do you really care about your scan profile? Of course you don't, or you would've have run damps instead of HP.

I don't have the answer (this one's tough), but I don't think that Sig Penalty is going to fix the guys who need fixin'. Low-HP MinScouts running double and triple damps would take the biggest hit here, and the CalScout Super Strafer would walk away largely unscathed.

1. Sig Penalty poses a direct threat to Minmatar Scout viability.
2. Sig Penalty destabilizes intra-class balance among Scouts.
3. Sig Penalty devalues MedFrame EWAR module investment (we should be doing the opposite).
4. Sig Penalty does not constitute a meaningful drawback to its intended target (Assault Lite).
5. Sig Penalty will have little-if-any affect on predominant loadout meta (HP stacking / King HP).


I've had a few margaritas, Cat, and I expect that these five points will make infinitely less sense when I read them tomorrow. Let me know if I need elaborate or illustrate.

Because you can break strafing with extenders to

Edit to your edit: Caldari ships are the slowest so if you'd like you could ask to take a heavy speed reduction