Caldari scout OPness, might someone say

The flux caused by shield generators makes a reciprocal directional impedance effect on the suit. Since more generators are on the front and back compared to the sides, it's easier to move in those directions compared to stepping sideways.

Except for, the dropsuit augments your movements. You aren't necessarily carrying all that weight around, the suit is. You just control the suit.

OMFG. Does everybody who plays this game hate strafing? I had no idea.

Maybe all the strafers already left.

Are we trying to evolve DUST into a game where personal skill with a controller or kb/m really isn't that important?

In truth, strategy is neutral wrt the presence of strafing mechanics or not. The better strategist/logistician/team will always win. The existence of strafing simply expands the tactical envelope.

And if you honestly believe that strafing/gungame is not a skill...i dunno what to say, it seem obvious to me.

It's more equivalent to hitbox because sig affects both the ability to track and hit a target as well and increasing the amount of effective damage that target takes when it does get hit.

Gun game - My S&W sending 5 shots in 5 seconds into a 6" target at 10 yds.

It's basically the catch-all phrase for 'I can shoot you better'.
Generally applied to shooting while moving, but also to whatever aspect you're better at than the opponent.

Sometimes, especially if it's the other guy who got lucky, but never if you're the lucky one, lol
Also sometimes used as troll bait.
Like I said, it's a catch all. If I use cover more effectively and pick you off, it's gun game. If I move/strafe and kill you first, it's gun game. Anything I can do well is gun game. If you do it well, it's only gun game when I approve of the style, lol

the only reason people are favoring an EWAR penalty for shields is the fact that shield suits are the easiest to abuse hit detection failures using the strafing thing.

I'm sorry, but this is transparent as hell.

Allow me to say:

Nerf my calscout please.

Seriously, the calscout is goddamn easy mode even for me and I'm only good at AV. Put strafe penalties on all HP mods.

There is but one small problem with this particular drawback. Perhaps two.

There can be no question that the CalScout's hitbox is imbued with special magics. On paper, the MinScout is the superior strafer; in game, however, his best effort at bulletweaving cannot touch the proficiency five gyrations of the CalScout.

The CalScout - Slap on a couple Reactives, add a Fine Rifle and become Saxonmish vs Noobs.
The MinScout - Better run straight damps in your lows if you ever want to stab anything.

So if and when we add the Sig Penalty to shield extenders, which will be most affected? Will it be the struggling and perpetually squishy MinScout? Or will it be the best wiggle-wiggler Assault Lite has to offer?



PS: In all seriousness, I don't know how we can fix CalScout Assault Lite without detrimentally impacting the MinScout. Very much open to ideas and suggestions.

My vote is for increased hitbox for shields. Let the increase be 3/4.5/6%, similar to armor plates speed penalties. The effect would be marginal until you really start to brick tank shields. Five complex shields? Now you're really struggling to take cover.
Along with this, shields should get a slight buff to bring them in line with ferroscale plates.

Looking around, I see 1000HP on Adv Meds and even more on Heavies. Don't get me started on the Heavy+Logi Blob nonsense. I'm all for these changes, but I gotta say, I don't think MinScouts (or any other) will have very good odds if forced to run without shield buffer.

dual tankings only bad if your not using a minmatar suit.
it only exists because the rest of the tanking styles from the other races are partially missing, mods are missing and mods are in the wrong slots.

example: if kincats and card regs were in the high slots (where they belong) you wouldnt see gal suits or amarr suits with shields

and no because most people who initially bought into this game were people who played eve and knew about this games existence years before it even came out.
its absolutely relevant.

im also defending strafing in this thread. because the idea hes proposing as a nerf to shields and some of the armor plates is wrong eve wise anyway.

I fail to see how Melee damage and reaction speed are unrelated.. From what I understand... when someone is in better shape their muscles are much more reactive and stronger allowing for someone to contract their muscles faster. This allows a stronger punch and fast reaction time when dodging bullet rounds.....

That might be a bit extreme. I think what these anti-fps peeps are looking for is something like tab targeting - you know, like WOW has.

Yea it is and you know it. It's not eve where numbers dictate everything, strafing and aiming take player skill and ccp likes to eradicate player skill.

strafing is a part of all tracking shooters.

'For Beginners Only' but still a good introduction.

Kaeru people can walk backwards just as fast as they can forwards
Do you even walk bro? Or just sit on your couch making terrible points