You do have a chance to evade.

The moment the first volley hits you have the ability to zip out of the 175m range with your Afterburner. Not sure why it's such a hard concept to comprehend.

says someone who probably has nothing to do with vehicles

Anyway. Aside from not rendering properly, there is nothing wrong with swarms. They have only received 2 slight buffs, one to acceleration and another to the damage of std and ADV variants. If you choose not to fit your ADS to get out of danger or to tank the damage (incubi have trouble but it is an explosive weapon) its your own fault. Don't just fly up thinking they can't hit me here. Fly away and around things.

swarms are fine, you just dnt have enough sp into hardeners as a python can get like 80% resist to swarms and just OPEN YOUR FREEKING EYES!

if you cannto find the culpret back off and get a squad mate to run a sweep/scan or better yet.. raise your ewar skills to 5 for range and presision and use a cal scout.. that way you have innate 100ish meter passive scan around yoru ship so you can see EVERYONE... i know all this and im not even an ads pilot.. get some sp and/or git gud.

Anyway. Aside from not rendering properly, there is nothing wrong with swarms. They have only received 2 slight buffs, one to acceleration and another to the damage of std and ADV variants. If you choose not to fit your ADS to get out of danger or to tank the damage (incubi have trouble but it is an explosive weapon) its your own fault. Don't just fly up thinking they can't hit me here. Fly away and around things.

I was playing AFW with a qsync tream and my self and another tanker experienced invisible swarms, we were side by side laying down fire and had green berries behind us and we both suddenly exploded from 1 squad of commando swarmed a on a roof, we saw nothing comeing and our squads saw nothing, just 2 tanks suddenly explode and swarms in the kill feed, no warning to, noting nust silane then fire and death

Anyone using vehicles are in 'god mode'
If you still complain - I dont see! Cost! etc. time to rescale your point of view

There is no problem with swarm/forge/rail (I dont see from where it hit).
These weapons are nerfed enough vs vehicles. 175m to lock target is like - Why I use this? And forge is to slow for this too.

I see enough good pilots that can fly around all match and dont die (even in PC).

If you need 'SEE' targets ... just exploit actual build - no need for more features (look scout as pilot threads)
If you have problem with 2-3 team of AV... you are still at better position then inantry solo vs team at ground - and this costs more then your vehicles.
If you have problem with 1 AV ... no coments.

Sincerely yours AV J.B.

Thats they're max distance!? I can't even shoot that far with a freakin' sniper!

Hi there I'm a rank 5 swarm person.
I also fly a lot of ads and dropship.
So I know both sides of the coin.

Turn your volume up. When swarms go up, you hear a whoooooosshhhh no matter where its coming from.
You don't have to wait until the first hit to hit afterburners and run. Soon as you hear the whooooosshhh afterburner and run.
Its like the noise from a vehicle being called in, can be heard from anywhere on map.
Learn to know this sound by nature/reflex.

Another strategy is not to go up, but down! Instead off flying high into the sky, with no obstacles for the swarms.
Fly down, a tall hill, or crate between you and swarms will cause them not to hit you.
Those big gray crate or even behind a supply depot can save you.
Just don't crash into the ground yourself.

Another tip, although extreme, works.
The default hard drive for ps3 sucks. it is 5200 rpm.
You can buy an SSD for your ps3 and things will render super fast.
You don't even notice they render, like you turn and everything is already there.
You can always use the ssd later on a computer or whatever, since i know buying a ssd just for dust sounds stupid.
I did this with final fantasy 14, things loaded so slowly and 3/4 of things never rendered onscreen.
But i got a cheap $70 ssd on a sale, and the difference was so noticeable.
It works the same here, have no rendering issues with a ssd.

It sucks even more with the "improved" rendering they did with 1.9.
I noticed what they did is delayed the renderings of certain graphics.
It is most noticeable when you are in a ship and fly super fast to one of those glowing reactors.
The graphics for the glowy stuff don't become fully visible for a long time.
What i'm saying is CCP delayed the rendering of stuff to improve frame rates and lag.
Which goes against you wanting swarms/forges to render faster.

I checked the store I go to for pc/gaming stuff. They have a couple of $60 ssd drives.
But black friday deals are around the corner, maybe a good one goes on sale.

Black Friday deals:
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SSD Selection
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no no no, it's ADS that's the problem.

ADS needs a bit more HP buffer and more maneuverability.

also, CCP fix invisible swarms.

Hi there I'm a rank 5 swarm person.
I also fly a lot of ads and dropship.
So I know both sides of the coin.

Turn your volume up. When swarms go up, you hear a whoooooosshhhh no matter where its coming from.
You don't have to wait until the first hit to hit afterburners and run. Soon as you hear the whooooosshhh afterburner and run.
Its like the noise from a vehicle being called in, can be heard from anywhere on map.
Learn to know this sound by nature/reflex.

Another strategy is not to go up, but down! Instead off flying high into the sky, with no obstacles for the swarms.
Fly down, a tall hill, or crate between you and swarms will cause them not to hit you.
Those big gray crate or even behind a supply depot can save you.
Just don't crash into the ground yourself.

Rails are good at 300m none of that 500+ cross map redline camping horseshit. Swarms are also horseshit. The turn angle barely got touched and they still travel around 90 degree corners and around bends and hills. And really the lock on range should be lowered if you can sit on your ass beside a nanohive with 2 swarms equipped on a minmando at 150m. And 400m is cross map distance for most of the maps. So unless your running a double shield hardener or a triple rep madrugar you won't get away from swarms