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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.11.18 11:56:00 -
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Just an idea cos scouts have Speed and Stealth, Heavies have tank and dps, Assaults are mediocre and lack the ability to run away or hide
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
581
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:02:00 -
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Last I heard, Legion's current assault has 2 Light weapons so maybe commandos get jetpacks?
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
Ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5897
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:16:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Just an idea cos scouts have Speed and Stealth, Heavies have tank and dps, Assaults are mediocre and lack the ability to run away or hide
WHAT ASSAULTS ARE MEDIOCRE? Lack the ability to run away?
Bro: Minmatar runs. a LOT. AND TANKS (900EHP and 7.7 sprnt speed all in one? HAH) Amarr doesnt NEED to run, tank over 900EHP with 2 cx damage mods and a viziam Gallente goes hand to hnd with amarr but at CQ. With Breach AR and ARs Calamaris are invincible at the correct range with cover, their high shield tank/regen makes them unkillable at certain ranges not to mention they are good for CQ 1 v 1 engagements too
ST*U with that assaults are mediocre.
BUT
But i would like me some jetpack.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Mex-0
161
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:17:00 -
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Lol that would mean having Minmatar assaults flying up and noob-tubing you with a massdriver.
MINJA
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
736
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:19:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:saxonmish wrote:Just an idea cos scouts have Speed and Stealth, Heavies have tank and dps, Assaults are mediocre and lack the ability to run away or hide WHAT ASSAULTS ARE MEDIOCRE? Lack the ability to run away? Bro: Minmatar runs. a LOT. AND TANKS (900EHP and 7.7 sprnt speed all in one? HAH) Amarr doesnt NEED to run, tank over 900EHP with 2 cx damage mods and a viziam Gallente goes hand to hnd with amarr but at CQ. With Breach AR and ARs Calamaris are invincible at the correct range with cover, their high shield tank/regen makes them unkillable at certain ranges not to mention they are good for CQ 1 v 1 engagements too ST*U with that assaults are mediocre. BUT But i would like me some jetpack.
Shhh... This is not the way to get jet-packs There Mediocre okk
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1643
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Bro: Minmatar runs. a LOT. AND TANKS (900EHP and 7.7 sprnt speed all in one? HAH)
900 HP with no self repair and no damage mods
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5897
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:32:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Bro: Minmatar runs. a LOT. AND TANKS (900EHP and 7.7 sprnt speed all in one? HAH)
900 HP with no self repair and no damage mods
2 cx Ferroscale 2 cx Armor reps 3 Shiel ext (at least 2 cx) 1 Enhanced shiel energizer
7.7 sprt speed 5.3 movement speed 20+ armor rep 39.99 shield recharge rate,.
(regarding your dam mods check my sig)
You were saying....
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3148
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:36:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Jack McReady wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Bro: Minmatar runs. a LOT. AND TANKS (900EHP and 7.7 sprnt speed all in one? HAH)
900 HP with no self repair and no damage mods 2 cx Ferroscale 2 cx Armor reps 3 Shiel ext (at least 2 cx) 1 Enhanced shiel energizer 7.7 sprt speed 5.3 movement speed 20+ armor rep 39.99 shield recharge rate,. (regarding your dam mods check my sig) You were saying....
KING CHECKMATE wrote: Amarr doesnt NEED to run, tank over 900EHP with 2 cx damage mods and a viziam
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5104
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:40:00 -
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I request a jetpack on my sentinel.
Hear me out...
So I can actually defeat a four inch step.
It's embarrassing to not be able to simply step over a tiny obstacle.
But four inches?
Need jetpax to mitigate the shame of being slightly more than Fluffy.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5898
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:41:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Jack McReady wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Bro: Minmatar runs. a LOT. AND TANKS (900EHP and 7.7 sprnt speed all in one? HAH)
900 HP with no self repair and no damage mods 2 cx Ferroscale 2 cx Armor reps 3 Shiel ext (at least 2 cx) 1 Enhanced shiel energizer 7.7 sprt speed 5.3 movement speed 20+ armor rep 39.99 shield recharge rate,. (regarding your dam mods check my sig) You were saying.... KING CHECKMATE wrote: Amarr doesnt NEED to run, tank over 900EHP with 2 cx damage mods and a viziam
I dont get it.
You think i should shield tank an Armor based suit that has only 20 shield regen per sec and only 3 high slots...?
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1219
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:10:00 -
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no uplink spam is bad enough
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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Feldt-Grace
Anaheim Electronics Manufacture Company
29
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:32:00 -
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Why playing you not Planetside 2?~
TRANS-AM!
Gundam, DUST and more Gameplays
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
5979
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:08:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Bro: Minmatar runs. a LOT. AND TANKS (900EHP and 7.7 sprnt speed all in one? HAH)
900 HP with no self repair and no damage mods Every suit has self repair.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
3354
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:27:00 -
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I would love a module similar to a scouts cloak for an assault. Rather than being a cloak it provides a temporary benefit. I.e a cloak is stealth.
Some of these benefits could be: (all temporary) Ewar jammer Speed boost (charge at an opponent like a raging bull on droids) Temporary resistance bonus like 50% damage resistance for 5 secs Temporary damage bonus for like 5 secs A repair boost to your passive systems
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
136
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:29:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Last I heard, Legion's current assault has 2 Light weapons so maybe commandos get jetpacks?
I just imagined the fat Michelin puppet Caldari Commando hopping around with a jetpack... thanks for the laugh!
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
677
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:31:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Just an idea cos scouts have Speed and Stealth, Heavies have tank and dps, Assaults are mediocre and lack the ability to run away or hide
Honestly how implement it. If you have it like active gadged it should be active like active gadget ergo like cloak or scanner. What is what you dont want i think. If you want it like passive thignie just like double jump or something else it will be too OP.
CCP can make it like tactical, what will be something like jumppack:
1.)Activation (like trhough button push - like with every tactical gadget) 2.)Jump 3.)Landing (with burnout/landing delay) 5.)Possibility to shoot (after burnout delay)
Jetpack can be too OP i thing better for longshot will be the Jumppack
"Savvy"
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Syeven Reed
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
990
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:41:00 -
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YES! Finally! Jetpacks!
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
EvE - 21 Day Trial
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
586
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:44:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I request a jetpack on my sentinel.
Hear me out...
So I can actually defeat a four inch step.
It's embarrassing to not be able to simply step over a tiny obstacle.
But four inches?
Need jetpax to mitigate the shame of being slightly more than Fluffy.
I don't mind the idea of jetpacks on heavies. Uplinks up high can be a real problem sometimes, eh?
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
Ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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Ryme Intrinseca
Dead Man's Game RUST415
2030
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:52:00 -
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Quote:Jetpack on assaults Doesn't really make sense with assaults as they are, i.e. mid to long range specialists. Maybe limit jetpack users to two sidearms so they can carry a 'plasma pistol and power sword' (ion pistol and nova knives) like a Warhammer 40k assault marine. |
Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
1152
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:03:00 -
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I'm just going to throw out numbers...
It should be an equipment. Obviously. A built in thing would make assaults too good. They would become the best uplink layers overnight. It would be crazy. Assault bonus should reduce fitting costs dramatically, like the Scouts do for cloaks. 75% seems to work well... It shouldn't be a jetpack. A jump-pack is much better and easier to balance around. Quick bursts of upwards movement. Manual activation. No shooting and floating. This is a mobility tool, not a combat I-win button. Something the cloak needs a harder lesson on...
Oh, and by the way, Amarr item. Amarr needs more items. Amarr item. Anyone have a more imaginative name to suggest??? Not a huge fan of , but I'm drawing a blank here...
Jump Pack CPU: 116 PG: 24 Jump time: 1.25 seconds. Jump height: 6.25m (5m/s) Cooldown: 15 seconds.
COR-71 Jump Pack CPU:180 PG:44 Jump time: 1.75 seconds. Jump height: 9.625m (5.5m/s) Cooldown: 12.5 seconds.
Carthum Jump Pack CPU: 248 PG: 56 Jump time: 2.5 seconds. Jump height: 15m (6m/s) Cooldown: 10 seconds.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
677
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:08:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:I'm just going to throw out numbers...
It should be an equipment. Obviously. A built in thing would make assaults too good. They would become the best uplink layers overnight. It would be crazy. Assault bonus should reduce fitting costs dramatically, like the Scouts do for cloaks. 75% seems to work well... It shouldn't be a jetpack. A jump-pack is much better and easier to balance around. Quick bursts of upwards movement. Manual activation. No shooting and floating. This is a mobility tool, not a combat I-win button. Something the cloak needs a harder lesson on...
Oh, and by the way, Amarr item. Amarr needs more items. Amarr item. Anyone have a more imaginative name to suggest??? Not a huge fan of , but I'm drawing a blank here...
Jump Pack CPU: 116 PG: 24 Jump time: 1.25 seconds. Jump height: 6.25m (5m/s) Cooldown: 15 seconds.
COR-71 Jump Pack CPU:180 PG:44 Jump time: 1.75 seconds. Jump height: 9.625m (5.5m/s) Cooldown: 12.5 seconds.
Carthum Jump Pack CPU: 248 PG: 56 Jump time: 2.5 seconds. Jump height: 15m (6m/s) Cooldown: 10 seconds.
Nope MATAR one
"Savvy"
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
98
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:10:00 -
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Imagine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkyOkFE5z7I
Even that is pretty ******* awesome.
Amarr Victor
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2487
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:14:00 -
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If Jet packs become a thing in this IP(WHich they should be... Because this is the future and space based...)
Jetpacks should be like a cloak.... An Equipment slotted item that has drawbacks adverse to the obvious advantages to fitting it.
Anything that allows players to have more Multi-level playability and ability to counter it in DUST will do nothing but add to the game. |
Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
1152
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:14:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Nope MATAR one Who are we kidding? It will just be another Caldari item...
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5903
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:16:00 -
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Jet packs might be a little to OVERPOWERED.
But considering all the ROOF UPLINK spam the assault could be the ones in the dept of Height.
Let me explain. Each class has an area of expertise :
Scouts: E-war + cloaks HEavy: Point defense and CQ combat Logi: Equipment and Versatility Assault: Versatility. Commando: Double L weapon wield (Damage versatility) {Guess this means commandos are lacking something too}
Assaults are missing something and height advantage could be it!
Jetpacks are a little too much, but what if:
GÖª Anti Gravity Belt / Equipment : For a specific amount of time , the user will be able to jump x2 / x2.5 / x3 times the regular height.
Example this is NOT well thought through, is just an instant idea): GÖª STD: 10 secs of effect / Cooldown 15 / Jump height x2 GÖªADV: 20 secs of effect / Cooldown 15 / Jump height x2.5 GÖªPRO: 25 Secs of effect / Cooldown 10 / Jump height x3
All assault bonuses modified to reduce the CPU/PG requirements for this piece of equipment (in addition to the already existing one for Grenades/light and sidearms).
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5903
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:17:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Jet packs might be a little to OVERPOWERED.
But considering all the ROOF UPLINK spam the assault could be the ones in the dept of Height.
Let me explain. Each class has two strong points :
Scouts: E-war + cloaks HEavy: Point defense and CQ combat Logi: Equipment and Versatility Assault: Versatility. Commando: Double L weapon wield (Damage versatility) {Guess this means commandos are lacking something too}
Assaults are missing something and height advantage could be it!
Jetpacks are a little too much, but what if:
GÖª Anti Gravity Belt / Equipment : For a specific amount of time , the user will be able to jump x2 / x2.5 / x3 times the regular height.
Example this is NOT well thought through, is just an instant idea): GÖª STD: 10 secs of effect / Cooldown 15 / Jump height x2 GÖªADV: 20 secs of effect / Cooldown 15 / Jump height x2.5 GÖªPRO: 25 Secs of effect / Cooldown 10 / Jump height x3
All assault bonuses modified to reduce the CPU/PG requirements for this piece of equipment (in addition to the already existing one for Grenades/light and sidearms).
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
677
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:37:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Nope MATAR one Who are we kidding? It will just be another Caldari item...
Yup possibly boyo
"Savvy"
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4973
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:43:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Just an idea cos scouts have Speed and Stealth, Heavies have tank and dps, Assaults are mediocre and lack the ability to run away or hide
I've been telling people for a while that assaults need a form of vertical movement. Every suit aside from the assault has some form of unique gimmick that sets it apart in a "fun" way, and not just a "spreadsheet" way. Commandos being the second most lackluster in that department.
Logis have their equipment spam (and will eventually have fun things like drones, turrets, etc), scouts have their fast movement, stealth, information gathering abilities. Heavies have their incredible armor and massive weaponry.
And assaults are just.... medium sized, run of the mill dudes who can sorta fight decently. Nothing unique, just moderate competence on all ends. That should be fixed.
Vertical movement would give them a fun gimmick that would also serve to counteract against high-ground uplink spam. I don't believe that assaults should have jetpacks because that directly changes the dynamic of an actual gunfight going on. I do believe, however, that they should have grappling hooks on reasonable cooldown. That makes them difficult to use during an actual fight, but great for positioning before hand.
It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
742
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:06:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I request a jetpack on my sentinel.
Hear me out...
So I can actually defeat a four inch step.
It's embarrassing to not be able to simply step over a tiny obstacle.
But four inches?
Need jetpax to mitigate the shame of being slightly more than Fluffy.
use ferroscale plates? the strafing heavy is the winning one.
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
2577
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:44:00 -
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Feldt-Grace wrote:Why playing you not Planetside 2?~ Jet packs are the only good thing in Planetside 2.
This would also help a lot with countering rooftop/tower camping.
Make the suit lockable with swarms when the jet pack is active (and possibly for a few seconds thereafter as it cools down). Have the fitting work like the cloak with the Assault getting a bonus the way a scout does. You should be able to fire while jet packing, but only hipfire, and there should be a major penalty to dispersion.
Best PvE idea ever!
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
746
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:46:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Feldt-Grace wrote:Why playing you not Planetside 2?~ Jet packs are the only good thing in Planetside 2. This would also help a lot with countering rooftop/tower camping. Make the suit lockable with swarms when the jet pack is active (and possibly for a few seconds thereafter as it cools down). Have the fitting work like the cloak with the Assault getting a bonus the way a scout does. You should be able to fire while jet packing, but only hipfire, and there should be a major penalty to dispersion.
how about you can only fire whilst you are falling?
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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shaman oga
The Dunwich Horror
3224
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:50:00 -
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Jet pack are always an interesting thing, maybe if they were an equipment... |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2488
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:52:00 -
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Limiting a Jetpack to one role or class is Anti-CCP.
It would be like limiting the Cloak to just scouts.
Should assaults get a bonus to them? yes.
Should every class or role in theory be able to use it at the same time with slightly worse drawbacks? Yes.
Jetpack should just be another Equipment item. |
saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
747
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:53:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Jet pack are always an interesting thing, maybe if they were an equipment...
no it needs to be just assaults cos scouts will be mad with a jet pack
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