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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
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Posted - 2014.11.18 06:24:00 -
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The Federation burst rifle is doing SUBSTANTIALLY less damage than it should be based on other rifles.
It has a fire rate of 845.07rpm instead of the 1000rpm that burst assault rifles are supposed to do. And has 15% less damage than it is supposed to based on established rifle damage progression. (incidentally the advanced burst assault rifle is also doing 5% less damage than it is supposed to)
All this amounts to it doing approximately 73% of the damage it should be doing. IT also has 8m less effective and optimal range than it is supposed to be. This effects the gallente BPO commando, and might be contributing to the lack burst AR use in general (underperforming entry level weapon and steep progression make only the proto one good). If it conformed to standard rifle damage progression and all variants had appropriate range, then I'm sure it'd be in a place where some might prefer it to other AR variants.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
11581
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Posted - 2014.11.18 06:45:00 -
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Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7977
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Posted - 2014.11.18 06:50:00 -
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*Clicks stopwatch*
21 Minute Response time.
Rattati deserves a medal.
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1101
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Posted - 2014.11.18 06:54:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible.
When will caldari get a breach variant of rr. Really slow rof high damage same charge as rr
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1511
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Posted - 2014.11.18 06:57:00 -
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Whoa. Nice catch!
I used it once in 1.9 and noticed it really lacking but never thought too much about it.
When we get this fixed, I'll have to grab one again.
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1954
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Posted - 2014.11.18 07:05:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:*Clicks stopwatch*
21 Minute Response time.
Rattati deserves a medal.
or a beer
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All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1954
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Posted - 2014.11.18 07:07:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible. When will caldari get a breach variant of rr. Really slow rof high damage same charge as rr
id love to see a breach CR too and a breach HMG heck with it.. BREACH ALL THE THINGS! breach magsec too!
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1645
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Posted - 2014.11.18 07:12:00 -
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There are issues with opus scp's not having a correct amount of ammo as well.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
93
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Posted - 2014.11.18 07:14:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible.
Thanks! I look forward to really enjoying my new federation commando suit.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1645
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Posted - 2014.11.18 07:15:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible. When will caldari get a breach variant of rr. Really slow rof high damage same charge as rr
The rail rifle is the breach variant, maybe you should stop attacking people for 'not knowing stuff' when you're clearly quite ignorant as well.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2309
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Posted - 2014.11.18 07:29:00 -
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CeeJ Mantis wrote:The Federation burst rifle is doing SUBSTANTIALLY less damage than it should be based on other rifles.
It has a fire rate of 845.07rpm instead of the 1000rpm that burst assault rifles are supposed to do. And has 15% less damage than it is supposed to based on established rifle damage progression. (incidentally the advanced burst assault rifle is also doing 5% less damage than it is supposed to)
All this amounts to it doing approximately 73% of the damage it should be doing. IT also has 8m less effective and optimal range than it is supposed to be. This effects the gallente BPO commando, and might be contributing to the lack burst AR use in general (underperforming entry level weapon and steep progression make only the proto one good). If it conformed to standard rifle damage progression and all variants had appropriate range, then I'm sure it'd be in a place where some might prefer it to other AR variants.
Sweet! That underdog burst AR deserves some love.
PSN: RationalSpark
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castba
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
647
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Posted - 2014.11.18 07:59:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible. When will caldari get a breach variant of rr. Really slow rof high damage same charge as rr id love to see a breach CR too and a breach HMG heck with it.. BREACH ALL THE THINGS! breach magsec too!
Alex's HMG could be considered a breach variant.
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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Ryme Intrinseca
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
2029
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Posted - 2014.11.18 09:25:00 -
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lol like the BuAR needed a nerf |
xavier zor
Boundless Mercenary
294
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Posted - 2014.11.18 09:27:00 -
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CeeJ Mantis wrote:The Federation burst rifle is doing SUBSTANTIALLY less damage than it should be based on other rifles.
It has a fire rate of 845.07rpm instead of the 1000rpm that burst assault rifles are supposed to do. And has 15% less damage than it is supposed to based on established rifle damage progression. (incidentally the advanced burst assault rifle is also doing 5% less damage than it is supposed to)
All this amounts to it doing approximately 73% of the damage it should be doing. IT also has 8m less effective and optimal range than it is supposed to be. This effects the gallente BPO commando, and might be contributing to the lack burst AR use in general (underperforming entry level weapon and steep progression make only the proto one good). If it conformed to standard rifle damage progression and all variants had appropriate range, then I'm sure it'd be in a place where some might prefer it to other AR variants.
What an original signature...
Highest plasma cannon kill: 132 metres
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
577
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Posted - 2014.11.18 09:34:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible. When will caldari get a breach variant of rr. Really slow rof high damage same charge as rr The rail rifle is the breach variant, maybe you should stop attacking people for 'not knowing stuff' when you're clearly quite ignorant as well.
+1
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
Ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1103
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:44:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible. When will caldari get a breach variant of rr. Really slow rof high damage same charge as rr The rail rifle is the breach variant, maybe you should stop attacking people for 'not knowing stuff' when you're clearly quite ignorant as well.
Oh but it isn't. Most breach weaponry is made by one company like Credron (probably said it wrong) and if you noticed it follows a pattern. Ishukone is the assault variant, Kaalakiota the regular weapon, and wiyrkomi is the breach variant for Caldari. So nah nah nah nah bo bo
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4901
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:59:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Credrono Creodron, Mr. President.
My advice to you, playa...
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
677
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:33:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible.
Oki if federation one will be fixed, what with my republic CR
"Savvy"
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Niuvo
Vengeance Unbound
RISE of LEGION
1028
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:50:00 -
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Yeah, there was something off about the burst AR. |
Fibo Gjenn
UNIVERSAL BANDAGE
19
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:10:00 -
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The same goes for Aurum version of the breach sub machine gun. |
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1784
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:27:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible. When will caldari get a breach variant of rr. Really slow rof high damage same charge as rr
The RR is the breach variant apparently. It's got the same RoF as the breach weapons (or at least close to it iirc). It needs a burst variant, slightly higher damage than the assault variant, fires off 6-7 rounds (like the BtAR used to do) to compensate for the charge time which should still be shorter than the other two.
Kills:21, Deaths:5, KDR: time for a smoke.
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
928
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:42:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible. When will caldari get a breach variant of rr. Really slow rof high damage same charge as rr id love to see a breach CR too and a breach HMG heck with it.. BREACH ALL THE THINGS! breach magsec too!
The standard RR is a breach. LMAO.
EDIT:
Gallente Rifle standard variant = Assault
Minmatar Rifle standard variant = Burst
Caldari Rifle standard variant = Breach
Amarr Rifle standard variant = Tactical
What I want is a burst or breach SCR & a breach CR.
Maybe you would like a Burst or Tactical RR?
Yep
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1107
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:44:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Thanks for pointing this out, we had not realized this. Expect a fix as soon as possible. When will caldari get a breach variant of rr. Really slow rof high damage same charge as rr id love to see a breach CR too and a breach HMG heck with it.. BREACH ALL THE THINGS! breach magsec too! The standard RR is a breach. LMAO.
Who says find the dev who claimed it
We fight for the future of the State not our
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
928
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:47:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:
The standard RR is a breach. LMAO.
Who says find the dev who claimed it
I'm not here for that. Take the info or leave it. Whatever.
Yep
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1108
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:49:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:
The standard RR is a breach. LMAO.
Who says find the dev who claimed it I'm not here for that. Take the info or leave it. Whatever.
Where is the proof? Are you 100% positive. Because if you are then wht is the ar tac the long range ar when the scr isn't the long range weapon?
We fight for the future of the State not our
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1786
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:56:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:
Who says find the dev who claimed it
Flint Beastgood III wrote:
EDIT:
Gallente Rifle standard variant = Assault
Minmatar Rifle standard variant = Burst
Caldari Rifle standard variant = Breach
Amarr Rifle standard variant = Tactical
That has been what people have said on the forums since at least open beta and not once have I seen a dev dispute it.
Kills:21, Deaths:5, KDR: time for a smoke.
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Jakkal Shoobah
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2014.11.18 20:25:00 -
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Jaques the breach AR is the gallente at varient made to mimic the rr. The rr having a breach variant would be redundant and OP as ****. Just a rough guess 250 rpm with 90 dmg and a second charge time. Make it ccp. Please so I can further abuse the rail rifle on my gallente commando rep tank.
Jakkal "Jammal" Shoobah,
The friendly/pissy Gallente Commando/Assault
Assault Rifles til I get stomped to the ground
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