It can be quite frustrating to try and start a dialogue about the changes, and the majority of replies is:

"wtf, so this is going to happen, that's terrible because I heard these numbers were, like, set in stone"

"I have great ideas but noone listens so I am not going to post them"

or

"I thought we were also doing this other thing"

Why not just post "I think we should do this because then this will be balanced" or "I see you posted these preliminary numbers and I think this would be a better set of numbers"

Just sayin'

Sure, just as it can be quite frustrating to ask for changes to the scanning system that would make it less black and white and would make ewar somewhat viable for non scouts, and keep getting told "it's not possible". Instead of, say, " we are actively working on a way to make that feasible". Just saying.

But, as it is now possible, here are some comments.

You imply you want medium suits to have a meaningful way of using ewar. However, these numbers don't really reflect that.
A logi with even 4 precision enhancers is unable to detect a scout with 2 dampeners even at close range. And 3 enhancers would be needed to overcome just one dampener at medium-close range. So, there is hardly a point in trying to use passive scans to detect scouts, so now it becomes a matter of whether sacrificing health/other utility is worth it just to detect some potential other medium frames that are using dampeners. In pre-1.8 conditions, this was useful, as medium frames, even dampened ones, were the most common on the battlefield. With the current 'balance' of scouts>heavies>everything else... it's hard to see the utility of fitting enhancers just to detect the odd medium frame, not when it has fat chance of detecting the scouts that are actually the major threat. Now, an assault with dampeners will have some utility, though I don't see the trend of self-prescribed 'slayers' choosing a scout suit over an assault suit (with exceptions, of course, always existing) really being overcome by these changes alone. I can't offer you a perfect solution, but in my opionion a place to start looking at would be increasing scout base profile.

The scan ranges are another issue. With scan precision 'degrading' over range, I do think there is a case to be made for an overall increase in base ranges, at least for the medium frames. Not a major one, but something to push the short range out a little bit more. Or at least reconsider the short range to be more in the area of 35-40% of the total range... With the proposed numbers, an assault with 2 range extenders and 4 enhancers would detect a scout with 1 dampener at about 7.5m meters... well within shotgun optimal, if I'm not mistaken.

There, that's my 0.02isk. I am not into spreadsheets, and I believe as I am not a member of the Barbershop, going into such detail in a matter somewhat relating to scouts would be a wasted effort anyway

I would still prefer if Logis got the better precision while scouts got the better range.
Cuz, ya know, scouts, scouting, recon.

Logis are likely to stay with a squad, hence they provide an invaluable short range umbrella for the squad, increasing their support role.

This is to make sure that the scanner is always visible. The hunter becomes the hunted. Take him down and blind the opponent.

one thing id like to see on the topic of passive scan is to make them work no matter what.

to do this we would make it so that anyone that comes within scan range immediate starts being "scanned". but this would take time, instead of being instant like it is currently.

this changes how scan precision and profile works.

the lower your profile, the longer it takes for you to be scanned.

the lower your precision, the faster you scan enemies within your scan range.

the way it all works is that we would use the precision number and count down one dB per second until it reaches and matches an enemy scan profile, at which point the target is scanned and shows up.

so for example:

enemy enters your scan range.

your suit starts scanning for his location.

you suits scan precision is 45 dB, and then enemy has a scan profile of 36 dB

45 - 36 = 9

so it would take 9 seconds after they enter your scan range before they show up. i think we should increase base scan precision so we start with a minimum scan time of 60 seconds. then we could reduce the time by using precision mods, or increase it by using dampeners.

the benefit of this way of passive scans is that everyone would be able to use them, but the difference would be in speed or how fast you can scan.

if an enemy moved into your scan range, but moved outside of your range before you scanned them then you wouldnt scan them obviously.

cloaks would keep you from being scanned, until you dropped your cloak. then you would start to get scanned. but if your profile is low enough you could recharge your cloak and turn it on again before you got scanned.

this way is much more dynamic and exciting than the current system.

The sheer horror of the thought that my 3x dampened Assault will still be picked up over 30m+ by a Logi with only 2x precision makes me want to puke.

Amps decrease Precision
Precision reduces range

Both increase Profile

This comes down to what we mean by "short range".

It takes only a fraction of a second for any unit to rotate 180 degrees. Once they're backpedaling away from you, you've lost all hope of ever getting them into knife range. I can't tell you how many times an observant mark has heard the sizzle of my knives charging from a few meters behind, rotated, backpedaled, and killed me all the while remaining just out-of-reach.

In the case of my double damped MinScout, a "short range" of 10m gives my mark (who I've singled out, flanked and stalked) well over a second of "warning, warning, warning" to turn around and begin to backpedal. To those who'd claim that one second isn't a long time, I'd point to my MinScout's TTK.

So what is "short range"? Is it 0.5 seconds of "warning, warning, warning" or is it more? And, perhaps more importantly, is it shared with squad? Even after a mark is incapacitated?

^ If I recall correctly, this was among of the reasons why line-of-sight shared scans were disabled. A merc gets flanked and stabbed proper, but turns in time to see his assassin; the assassin's escape is now compromised, his position having been revealed to all nearby. Assassin does everything right. Dies anyway because of a bad mechanic. But maybe it'll be different now that we have cloak. Maybe.