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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.17 05:25:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Oh yeah, the BAR seriously is as bad as a weapon that -literally- melted every light and medium suit in a single trigger pull when on target, it's just that good. How dare a CQC weapon shine in CQC for more than 2 weeks after well over a year of disuse, nerf it immediately.
/sarcasm
It's powerful yeah, but old BHMG levels of OP? I don't think so.
I don't think anyone is asserting that...if they are they are fuggin dumb.
Is it strong? Yes.
Does it need a nerf? I think so.
What should that nerf be? Clip size...reload speed lengthened if a clip reduction doesn't do the trick. The DPS is actually fine...it's how long that DPS is sustainable...and how easy it is to do that DPS at ranges I don't know that the breach was intended for
Like i've said elsewhere...what is this weapon's goal/purpose? What is it's intended range?
Should it be the best CQC variant as opposed to the higher dispersion/kick 'normal' AR?
Should it be able to apply it's damage better than the regular ar at >15m if it IS a CQC weapon?
This sort of consensus/answer helps a lot in these kinds of conversations.
Breach should NOT be nerfed into the ground...people like you have been waiting WAAAAAY too damn long for it to be brought back.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.17 06:36:00 -
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Is it supposed to be like the RR?
I thought that was what the TAC was for?
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4602
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Posted - 2014.11.17 06:42:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Is it supposed to be like the RR?
I thought that was what the TAC was for? TAC is the scrambler m8. And burst is the CR. They were all the original 'placeholders' now considered variants.
Wut...But the SCR is a high DPS, high clip...overheat based weapon that performs perfectly in CQC and at range..
The Tac needs considerable changes if it's going to be considered the alternative SCR.
I agree on the CR/Burst comparison.
Anyone else want to validate/contest the idea that the breach is the RR placeholder?
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4604
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Posted - 2014.11.17 07:19:00 -
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Please don't ever take anything this reject says as anything containing substance.
All you should ever do when you see his name is ask him about the time he said he was the greatest FPS player of all time.
PSA provided courtesy of Zatara Rought
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4604
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Posted - 2014.11.17 07:26:00 -
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IF the BAR is to be like the SCR then it would seem fit to lower clip size and increase reload to operate in similar fashion to the SCR's overheat mechanic?
I'd still like opinions from others:
What weapon should the Breach take it's queue's from? What should it's purpose be?
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4604
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Posted - 2014.11.17 07:45:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:[quote=Zatara Rought]
I always paired the Tactical rifle to the Scrambler Rifle.
It's a Gallente weapon.
It's a Variant
It's not going to behave exactly like the Scrambler Rifle but it does have some common ground.
High Alpha
Long range.
And that's about all that you're going to have without it becoming OP. Damage per mag is going to be low because if it had a large mag that'd be OP and nobody wants that. The Duvolle Tactical has no overheat function but it does Kick like a mule and has a low mag size so I find it a decent trade off.
As far as the Breach goes I'd be alright with a Damage Nerf but only if it got a range increase. Since we are trying to match like weapons with their variants the Breach should perform more like the Rail then. Considerably more range than the Plasma Rifle, less range than the assault but less damage than the Plasma Rifle and more DPS than the Rail.
If it's going to act like the RR then it needs to be worthless in CQC. So high dispersion when not ADS or hipfire kick. It also has no charge up mechanic so it needs to be balanced against that as well.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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