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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.11.16 03:34:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_;  But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster. So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill?
Caldari HAV are currently the statistical choice of durability fits, especially those I feel with the intent to maul infantry.
In all likelihood you are dealing with tanker who are either Spiking their fits for maximum anti tank power and not rocking a sufficient EHP tank, or are dual tanking and relying in armour to carry them.
"HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGǪ. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."
-Kador Ouryon
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Posted - 2014.11.16 04:07:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Atiim wrote: No, you've either been beating on scrubs all day or need to lay of the boosters. Gunnlogies are better than Madrugars in every way when fitted properly. Sad, but true. Madrugars have terrible CPU/PG balance which greatly reduces your ability to run a proto turret plus any sort of advanced modules. By comparison, all of my Gunni fits with Proto large turrets have over 6,000HP plus an additional small turret. I also have Gunnis with the same modules with a standard large turret and two small turrets.
Yup if you want to talk statistics (PARDON MY ATROSCIOUS MATH SKILLS)
A Proto'd out Gunnlogi nets you
-2x Complex Shield Extenders (for 5300 base Shield HP and 1500 Armour)
- Proto Turret
- Advanced Small Turrets
With a Hardener
5300 *1.4 = 7120 Shield HP unmodified.
consider then that against explosive AV options like swarms you gain an additional 20% resistance.....
7120 *1.2 = 8544 Shield EHP vs Explosive AV options for a total of almost 10K EHP.
Whereas the Madrugar only nets you
1200 *1.2 = 1440
5000 (w Armour Hardener) *0.8 = 4000 (no difference at all)
For a total of 5440 EHP vs Explosive AV (modified by passive reps)
While a Gunnlogi can take 4-5 proto swarm volleys and keep kicking a Madrugar is lucky to take 3.
"HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGǪ. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."
-Kador Ouryon
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Posted - 2014.11.16 08:01:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_; But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster. So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill? Caldari HAV's are much more resilient than Gallente HAV's but the shield regeneration really, really brings back the Caldari HAV's survivability. Armour starts repairing instantly, and you can change how strong the regen is. With shield tanking HAV's you can only change the time of depleted recharge, and can never improve shield recharge rate.
In the vehicle rebalance discussions I aim to have this changed so shield HAV do not have pulsed passive shield regeneration. Only slow constant regeneration of several points per second.
"HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGǪ. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."
-Kador Ouryon
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Posted - 2014.11.16 08:02:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_; But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster. So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill? thats because cal HAV has lower hp and is ment for longer range engagments.. however you can tank it with tripple hardners and a large booster iirc for godmode.
Your suggestion is terrible and you should genuinely feel bad about even suggesting it.
"HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGǪ. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."
-Kador Ouryon
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