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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.11.16 01:29:00 -
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I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_;
But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster.
So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill?
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1893
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Posted - 2014.11.16 01:31:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_; But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster. So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill?
thats because cal HAV has lower hp and is ment for longer range engagments.. however you can tank it with tripple hardners and a large booster iirc for godmode.
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Zindorak
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
1289
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Posted - 2014.11.16 01:31:00 -
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Flux + RE's > Gunnlogi
Well atleast the one i fought
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
13750
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Posted - 2014.11.16 01:32:00 -
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No, you've either been beating on scrubs all day or need to lay of the boosters. Gunnlogies are better than Madrugars in every way when fitted properly.
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Louis Domi
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2014.11.16 01:36:00 -
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Oh no they are not. I get a bit pissed off every time i see a gunlogi, cuz I know I'm gonna have to put in some kind of ******* work. |
Vesta Opalus
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
179
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Posted - 2014.11.16 01:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:No, you've either been beating on scrubs all day or need to lay of the boosters. Gunnlogies are better than Madrugars in every way when fitted properly.
This.
takes like 10 forge shots to kill the damn things. Theres no way they can die if they arent stupid. |
Vicious Minotaur
1310
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:13:00 -
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I have an easier time killing Amarr HAVs.
Their armor is so thin, it may as well not even exist.
I am a minotaur.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
82
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:16:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_; But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster. So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill? thats because cal HAV has lower hp and is ment for longer range engagments.. however you can tank it with tripple hardners and a large booster iirc for godmode.
Shoot, pop a heavy and light extender on wit a booster and they survive great against swarms.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
82
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:17:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I have an easier time killing Amarr HAVs.
Their armor is so thin, it may as well not even exist.
I see what you did there.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
277
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:17:00 -
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No, Somas' are weaker, Gunnilogis' are immortal like the state that builds them!
Pal'Ahm kim kama'Ahm
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
277
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:19:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I have an easier time killing Amarr HAVs.
Their armor is so thin, it may as well not even exist.
But it looks good, the Minmatar looks as if it was fished out of a sea of water!... oh wait...
Wait? How do we survive without water? 
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14660
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Posted - 2014.11.16 03:34:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_; But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster. So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill?
Caldari HAV are currently the statistical choice of durability fits, especially those I feel with the intent to maul infantry.
In all likelihood you are dealing with tanker who are either Spiking their fits for maximum anti tank power and not rocking a sufficient EHP tank, or are dual tanking and relying in armour to carry them.
"HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGǪ. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."
-Kador Ouryon
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Everything Dies
FUNNY NAME GOES HERE
1071
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Posted - 2014.11.16 03:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:No, you've either been beating on scrubs all day or need to lay of the boosters. Gunnlogies are better than Madrugars in every way when fitted properly.
Sad, but true. Madrugars have terrible CPU/PG balance which greatly reduces your ability to run a proto turret plus any sort of advanced modules.
By comparison, all of my Gunni fits with Proto large turrets have over 6,000HP plus an additional small turret. I also have Gunnis with the same modules with a standard large turret and two small turrets.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4593
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Posted - 2014.11.16 03:55:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I have an easier time killing Amarr HAVs.
Their armor is so thin, it may as well not even exist.
I heard a small cry from a certain someone out in the distant galaxy...
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14660
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Posted - 2014.11.16 04:07:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Atiim wrote:No, you've either been beating on scrubs all day or need to lay of the boosters. Gunnlogies are better than Madrugars in every way when fitted properly. Sad, but true. Madrugars have terrible CPU/PG balance which greatly reduces your ability to run a proto turret plus any sort of advanced modules. By comparison, all of my Gunni fits with Proto large turrets have over 6,000HP plus an additional small turret. I also have Gunnis with the same modules with a standard large turret and two small turrets.
Yup if you want to talk statistics (PARDON MY ATROSCIOUS MATH SKILLS)
A Proto'd out Gunnlogi nets you
-2x Complex Shield Extenders (for 5300 base Shield HP and 1500 Armour)
- Proto Turret
- Advanced Small Turrets
With a Hardener
5300 *1.4 = 7120 Shield HP unmodified.
consider then that against explosive AV options like swarms you gain an additional 20% resistance.....
7120 *1.2 = 8544 Shield EHP vs Explosive AV options for a total of almost 10K EHP.
Whereas the Madrugar only nets you
1200 *1.2 = 1440
5000 (w Armour Hardener) *0.8 = 4000 (no difference at all)
For a total of 5440 EHP vs Explosive AV (modified by passive reps)
While a Gunnlogi can take 4-5 proto swarm volleys and keep kicking a Madrugar is lucky to take 3.
"HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGǪ. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."
-Kador Ouryon
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Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES
FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
211
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Posted - 2014.11.16 05:09:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_; But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster. So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill?
Caldari HAV's are much more resilient than Gallente HAV's but the shield regeneration really, really brings back the Caldari HAV's survivability.
Armour starts repairing instantly, and you can change how strong the regen is.
With shield tanking HAV's you can only change the time of depleted recharge, and can never improve shield recharge rate.
There is literally no sense for team killing to be possible in any gamemode.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
4190
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Posted - 2014.11.16 07:18:00 -
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http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/320/5965
dat 3x particle cannon doe
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duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2014.11.16 07:20:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_; But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster. So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill? thats because cal HAV has lower hp and is ment for longer range engagments.. however you can tank it with tripple hardners and a large booster iirc for godmode.
Why is it meant for range? It has lower hp and regen....don't really see why...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14665
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Posted - 2014.11.16 08:01:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_; But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster. So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill? Caldari HAV's are much more resilient than Gallente HAV's but the shield regeneration really, really brings back the Caldari HAV's survivability. Armour starts repairing instantly, and you can change how strong the regen is. With shield tanking HAV's you can only change the time of depleted recharge, and can never improve shield recharge rate.
In the vehicle rebalance discussions I aim to have this changed so shield HAV do not have pulsed passive shield regeneration. Only slow constant regeneration of several points per second.
"HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGǪ. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."
-Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14665
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Posted - 2014.11.16 08:02:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a tanker... At least not since the incident ;_; But I am very dedictated to AV and I have to say that even though the Swarm Launcher is meant to perform best against the Gallente HAV I actually kill Caldari HAV's A LOT faster. So have I just been hitting the red, blue and green bottles one too many times or are Caldari HAV's actually pretty easy to kill? thats because cal HAV has lower hp and is ment for longer range engagments.. however you can tank it with tripple hardners and a large booster iirc for godmode.
Your suggestion is terrible and you should genuinely feel bad about even suggesting it.
"HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGǪ. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."
-Kador Ouryon
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