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Kody Cole
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:15:00 -
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in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic
DDB-Director
Soldier of the State
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
401
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:20:00 -
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Precision & hand/eye coordination works.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
803
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:28:00 -
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Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic
Growing a pair of balls usually works.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Ryme Intrinseca
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1999
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:30:00 -
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Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic
Don't play until CCP fix it. |
CharacterNameWasTaken
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:30:00 -
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use a cloaked shotgun scout and get some situational awareness.
"Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
405
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:31:00 -
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Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic
Become a cloak shotty user. |
Kody Cole
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
69
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:32:00 -
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lol nice
DDB-Director
Soldier of the State
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
500
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:32:00 -
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Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic
Gallogi with 15db precision scanner and/or luck.
Take a bow
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
255
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:39:00 -
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Have 450+ HP.
Jump away when shotgunned.
Rotate while airborne.
Backpedal, hipfire, win.
Pro Tip: Never stand still. When standing directly behind a strafing target, a shotgunner has to anticipate position before firing. At point-blank range -- which is where he has to be to do full damage -- a single lateral step can move you off his screen. |
axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
350
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:49:00 -
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Cal assault cko three proto shield extenders two proto damage mods any farroscale plates you can fit and a proto assault mass driver. AND VERY GOOD AWARENESS. One shot scout for days
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
1039
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:51:00 -
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A sentinel, 2-3 complex dampeners, HMG, nova knives, and a hiding spot near the objective
Their reaction is priceless |
Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:52:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Have 450+ HP.
Jump away when shotgunned.
Rotate while airborne.
Backpedal, hipfire, win.
Pro Tip: Never stand still. When standing directly behind a strafing target, a shotgunner has to anticipate position before firing. At point-blank range -- which is where he has to be to do full damage -- a single lateral step can move you off his screen.
This is pretty much how I handle those guys. I jump up and at an angle, turn and fire. A cloaked shotgun person usually has their armor and shield so low they drop within a split-second. |
Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
256
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Posted - 2014.11.15 22:13:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Have 450+ HP.
Jump away when shotgunned.
Rotate while airborne.
Backpedal, hipfire, win.
Pro Tip: Never stand still. When standing directly behind a strafing target, a shotgunner has to anticipate position before firing. At point-blank range -- which is where he has to be to do full damage -- a single lateral step can move you off his screen. This is pretty much how I handle those guys. I jump up and at an angle, turn and fire. A cloaked shotgun person usually has their armor and shield so low they drop within a split-second.
Yep. Usually doesn't take much of a jump either. Many shotgunners won't risk a 0m blast unless you're standing perfectly still or moving in a predictable pattern. Rather, they'll open up between 3m and 5m, where they hit more reliably (albeit for less damage). If you survive the first blast (need 450+ HP), you need only bunnyhop to get out of optimal range for their followup blast. Shotguns do far less damage outside of 5 meters, which buys you lots more time. |
LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
830
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Posted - 2014.11.15 22:23:00 -
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PLC+Flaylock or just Flaylock secondary.
Quafe
A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does,
So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
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Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES
FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
208
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Posted - 2014.11.15 22:36:00 -
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Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic
Probably no proper counter people here will state.
If they attack from behind, no counter, if they attack from the front you can actually strafe in one direction an outstrafe their turn speed a bit to buy yourself enough time to shoot and kill them.
Besides this there is a trick I use. Since of course they will be trying to CQC kill you, they'll constantly run towards you. If you strafe but don't move back to get away it'll force them to turn even more to have to kill you at times, as they'll pass you from moving forward, putting you to their side even more.
Used this side strafing trick for CQC in other games, too.
There is literally no sense for team killing to be possible in any gamemode.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
422
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Posted - 2014.11.15 22:38:00 -
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2Berries wrote:hand/eye coordination works. this + amarr scout in squad, and gal logi with as.
Gallente Speed Scout.
EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
5891
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Posted - 2014.11.15 22:38:00 -
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Mass Drivers also work pretty well.
And staying with your squad.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Sev Alcatraz
687
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:00:00 -
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To shoot someone in the back is cowardly
Disgruntled vet
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
276
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:03:00 -
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Stop insulting them and start looking for them!
Pal'Ahm kim kama'Ahm
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
276
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:04:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:To shoot someone in the back is cowardly
Cowardly? No. Smart? Yes.
Cowards wouldn't fire now would they? they would run away like a well coward.
Pal'Ahm kim kama'Ahm
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
277
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:11:00 -
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Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic
And I use Nova Knives now! Why? Because it's even more embarrassing to the people I kill. 
Pal'Ahm kim kama'Ahm
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
832
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:21:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic And I use Nova Knives now! Why? Because it's even more embarrassing to the people I kill.
Umm... No its not. One hit kill and about the same optimal range as shotty.
Plasma Cannon is by far the most humiliating.
Quafe
A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does,
So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1288
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:36:00 -
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Mass Driver is what works best for me.
Because, that's why.
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
960
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Posted - 2014.11.16 00:21:00 -
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I love my MinAssault fit: PLC, Flaylock and double Complex KinCat. I run faster than most scouts and have enough tank to survive a hit if I'm constantly moving. Hear a decloak/survive a blast? Spin about, PLC blast plus a Flaylock round or two will usually see them dead.
The biggest issue is the retardedly brick tanked scouts who are impossible to scan down without incredible sacrifice (read: insane drop in EHP) unless you're also in a scout suit. They'll tank a good bunch of hits and whip out their SMG or otherwise jut finish you off with the Shotgun.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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maluble
Art.of.Death
VP Gaming Alliance
173
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Posted - 2014.11.16 00:24:00 -
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Take away sg from scouts, the number of scouts would be reduced by at least 75%. Most sg scouts are fotm users. Or juat generally bad at fps's. Gal scout with sg equals easy mode. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
5935
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Posted - 2014.11.16 00:26:00 -
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Standard Ion pistol.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Z3dog
BIG BAD W0LVES
13
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:01:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic Don't play until CCP fix it.
CCP will never fix it. They encourage it.
Dust 5/14
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Hakyou Brutor
Capital Acquisitions LLC
1603
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:27:00 -
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Have a single Gal Logi outside the city with 4x Focused Scanners.
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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Mejt0
Puff n Puffers
503
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Posted - 2014.11.16 04:13:00 -
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Don't aim, just shoot.
Or hide in a vehicle.
Yup.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
406
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Posted - 2014.11.16 04:20:00 -
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maluble wrote:Take away sg from scouts, the number of scouts would be reduced by at least 75%. Most sg scouts are fotm users. Or juat generally bad at fps's. Gal scout with sg equals easy mode.
Not necessarily, I run a Scout with cloak n shotgun but I usually don't break it out till after my second shotgun to the back. |
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Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
84
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Posted - 2014.11.16 04:25:00 -
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Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic
Go vehicles and forget infantry COD crap.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1393
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Posted - 2014.11.16 04:25:00 -
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My tactic is blowing myself up with a mass driver.
60% of the time it works every time.
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
291
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Posted - 2014.11.16 04:30:00 -
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I think everyone should insult them more I mean their unbalance effects every other class as much as their own. You guys broke the cloak gg our ewar is about to be broken gg. You guys did it all with ignorance and don't nerf me bro nerf everyone else and it amazingly worked.
The Impossible Dream and Wizard Talk
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Ryme Intrinseca
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
2001
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Posted - 2014.11.16 09:52:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic Don't play until CCP fix it. CCP will never fix it. They encourage it.
Uninstall, problem solved. |
Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
493
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Posted - 2014.11.16 10:53:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Have 450+ HP.
Jump away when shotgunned.
Rotate while airborne.
Backpedal, hipfire, win.
Pro Tip: Never stand still. When standing directly behind a strafing target, a shotgunner has to anticipate position before firing. At point-blank range -- which is where he has to be to do full damage -- a single lateral step can move you off his screen.
The old "revenge of shinobi" technique.
Jump, spin, throw shurikens.
For the ****** scouts this is very effective and for the good ones, well you're f'n dead already so it doesn't matter.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3117
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Posted - 2014.11.16 10:55:00 -
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Honestly, you can counter it by learning to see the blue shimmer and shoot at it. I have practiced this, and since cloaked scouts are very fragile usually, you can kill them before they uncloak.... and make them rage and QQ on the forums.
I really hope that assaults get -5 dB in base precision. Then I am going to run this fit in pubs:
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/1500/9121
Just to make scouts life horrible.
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
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137H4RGIC
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
356
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Posted - 2014.11.16 11:13:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Mass Drivers also work pretty well.
And staying with your squad.
Maxed out sentinel with Assault Mass Driver. Heavies will almost receive no damage, but scouts will receive a lot. 
I want to help DUST become a better experience for everyone. Let's work together!
137H4RGIC - Running for CPM2 (SOONGäó)
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Jebus McKing
Tribal Ground Forces
962
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Posted - 2014.11.16 11:35:00 -
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Kody Cole wrote:in your opinion whats the best way to counter this no balls tactic
Don't try to counter it! People will just switch to knives and kill you even faster, and silently.
Assault / Logi / Scout / Sentinel // @JebusMcKing
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Mejt0
Puff n Puffers
504
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Posted - 2014.11.16 13:31:00 -
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Ok. So i'll tell you what you should do and what works 100%... Sound.
People with headphones will always turn back (or left,right) when i decloak behind them. And they have egnouth time to kill me before i can even shoot. They can even hear knives charging, or even steps if they are running alone.
I'm playing without sound (because i'm playing with headset and i don't want to have noise in background) and it su(ks.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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