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Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.11.14 03:48:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:*sigh*
It's designed to excel at close range combat.
ALL Breach weapons are designed to excel at close range combat. (Except the Breach Scrambler Pistol... that thing is just weird.)
Nothing is OP. A lot of people just like to fight up close. So you see it a lot.
Stop fighting up close, and you probably won't be killed by it as much.
I thought breach weapons were supposed to be for long range?
Breach shotgun, tighter spread means more pellets hit further out.
Breach AR and SMG, less kick, and greater accuracy means excelling at longer ranges as well (increased damage means that the effective values can be ignored up to a certain points).
Breach AR, like the old RR, is basically king at versatility now thanks to their range, power, and profile. Saying, "but all the other assault-type rifles have better range" means nothing because the ACR is horrible against shields and sucks at conserving ammo, AScR has an even worse profile and overheats, ARR lacks ammo, has considerably more kick, and just doesn't perform at the longer ranges, like the standard RR, but that one sucks at close range.
At least, that's what I think. |
Nothing Certain
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Posted - 2014.11.14 04:50:00 -
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I know when Nyain San is stomping my guts out in Ambush what I see in the killfeed Kaalakitoa Rail Rifle, not BAR. I like the BAR but it isn't much different then the ACR and its range limits it. The RR can keep it at range and destroy it. I don't think a nerf is needed, it is simply the best AR, not the best rifle.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
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Posted - 2014.11.14 05:07:00 -
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The difference in range mechanics is that while a BAR might, might, be have the advantage in short range than the RR at RR range the BAR is completely ineffective.
Because, that's why.
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2014.11.14 05:30:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:OP as **** please nerf
I believe there should be a larger kick ratio for the breach and less accuracy when hip firing that way it won't be as op
You're kidding right? My gallente assaults only benefit to that whack bonus is kick reduction. You sons of B***he's let the RR reign supreme for months, but now you wanna say something about a rifle being OP? The breach has been doing exactly what it is doing the entire time, but you were so busy running FOTM that you didn't notice. It got a overdue buff to keep up with other rifles, and now you want it nerfed?!
Please post the thread where you complained about the RR, or this whole thread is BS! I use the rail more now than ever before because it's actually a balance weapon finally. Apparently I need to get the scrambler going because it's just beast mode.... again??! Funny how how I don't see the TAR doing the same as the scrambler, but the stats are virtually identical with the exception of the magazine capacity and heat buildup? Same damage and fire rate, but scrambler is an absolute nightmare! The thing so beast that Saxonmish respec'd his whole layout?!
The AR has been nerfed 3 times more than any other weapon?! Leave it be, and stay out of range.
Hypocrites?!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2014.11.14 05:37:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Hector Carson wrote:OP as **** please nerf
I believe there should be a larger kick ratio for the breach and less accuracy when hip firing that way it won't be as op Dear OP. BAR is not OP. its sevearly limited on range. max range is 71m but effective range is like 50m but to be somewhat accurate you need to dump ALOT of sp into sharpshooter skill where as RR was up to 101m with effective of like 70odd meters and didnt need any huge sp dump into sharpshooting. BAR also does not have a scope to emphasize on its CQB-ness.. AR are ment to have high dps at close range.. unlike how RR were stupidly dominant at any range from 0 to 100m also if we were to throw in damage profiles the RR is even more effective because every one stacks armor... the AR suck against armor where as they only excell against shields.. so i put it to you mister OP, its only shield tanked scouts and shield tankers in general who are whining like little girls about the BAR when RR was OP for like a year and all you guys just defended it to hell and back .
THIS EXACTLY!!!
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2014.11.14 05:50:00 -
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So in other words: put that Gal weapon back in the trash can it crawled out of with all it's gal counterparts!
Even when you're in CQC with me, which is my primary fighting area, you still want to perform better?
No respect smh?!
I am usually pretty calm on here, bit today all of you can eat a D**k!!! The RR was a terror for a solid Fing year, and you didn't say a word!!!
I hope you get breached into k/d oblivion with all of us gallente fighters!!!
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137H4RGIC
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.14 05:52:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:
The AR has been nerfed 3 times more than any other weapon?! Leave it be, and stay out of range.
Hypocrites?!
heavy machine gun Holds that title
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
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Posted - 2014.11.14 05:55:00 -
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You best back the **** up off my Breach Assault Rifle. |
DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.14 06:20:00 -
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You're ******* ******** if you think that thing's going to do better than a Combat Rifle at CQC.
The Scrambler Rifle does better. No seriously it does.
F*k this cash grab fix the shit that matters: unkillable uplinks, invisible remotes on null cannon hack panels, etc.
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2014.11.14 06:30:00 -
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137H4RGIC wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:
The AR has been nerfed 3 times more than any other weapon?! Leave it be, and stay out of range.
Hypocrites?!
heavy machine gun Holds that title
Really too close to call, but equally unfair?!
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2014.11.14 06:34:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:You're ******* ******** if you think that thing's going to do better than a Combat Rifle at CQC.
The Scrambler Rifle does better. No seriously it does.
Exactly! AR's still have a long way to go. Gallente weaponry as a whole is F'd up in general?! The shotgun, TAR, and burst AR are hit detection nightmares?! One gallente weapon actually does it's job in CQC, and everybody loses their freaking minds?!
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
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Posted - 2014.11.14 08:10:00 -
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Did they amp up Auto Aim? I feel like I am suddenly a better marksman ... which I am really not in the slightest (using controller) ESPECIALLY with the breach weapons <- less bullets = less likely to hit stuff.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
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Posted - 2014.11.14 08:12:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:OP as **** please nerf
I believe there should be a larger kick ratio for the breach and less accuracy when hip firing that way it won't be as op
Hear me Roar bitches, my prophecy has been fulfilled
Bojo For CPM
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Myron Kundera
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.11.14 17:14:00 -
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Breach Plasma Rifle is not OP, it-¦s working as intended with high damage, slow ROF at CQC, still getting wrecked by HMG, SG, CR, ARR, Pistols, AScrR. So yeah, good try but not nerf for you imo.
"Greed, the forgotten mental disease"
"Spray and pray makes my day"
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