DUST Search - The vision I had for Dust

Buwaro Draemon wrote:

Jammeh McJam wrote:

I want massive battles on whole planets (or at least continents) not small maps like we have atm.

But that would be pointless with a limit to how many people can be in a fight at a time, it has to be able to support at least 1 thousand mercs in 1 fight, not including all the vehicles that are called in.

Also I want more variations of aircraft, like massive transport aircraft that contain dropships, jets, bombers and RDVs with all the HAVs, LAVs and MAVs that the corporation/alliance has bought or built to be used.

With this, fights would be amazing and organised warfare would be vital, instead of just field commanders and fleet commanders, the battles would have to be set up like how mag ranks were, with platoon leaders, OICs and squad leaders on the ground, with squadron leaders for fleets of dropships/jets following the MCC and vehicle transport, and people in charge of massive tank columns.

This would be amazing to see, especially when the fighting takes place on a whole planet, it would be like planetside 2 on steroids.

The maps we have now are bits and pieces divided from the original sized maps.
There are 3 maps in Dust divided into the maps we play toady.

So the maps are pretty big, they just need to take away the redline and unify them.

"We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends

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Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 430	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:57:00 - [1] - Quote Back when I joined in the close beta and doing research on what this game was about. I was astounded by CCP's imagination and plan for this game. Then I started having my own vision for Dust. My vision was something like this: Me (or you) and a few friends have squadded up because our corp had ordered us to go and do some reconnaissance on an enemy district. We would be using our scout suits and our corp would need to buy small one arm escort ships in order to bypass their scanners and alert no one of our pressence there. Upon getting the info we needed on the layout and map data, we would report back to our Corp only for them to tell us thanks to us we had open a way to an invasion to the district and seeing about 5 friendly MCC warping into the sky and Dropships coming out of the MCC carrying troops down to the ground. Upon this time the enemy already konws that we are here and we make back to were our corp appears to be landing. As we make our way back a friendly MCC lands with troops and they all get out and move forward while we jump in and it takes us to the primary base. Which would be layed out by dropping a CRU and Supply Deppot in a strategic location set by either squad leaders or MCC commanders surrounded with turret installations protecting it. Upon arriving at the primary base we would switch out our scouting gear into frontline and support gear and help out or corp mates but by this time the enemy had called in for back up and 3 or 5 enemy MCCs show up and both our MCCs and their MCCs engage in Eve style combat. Ground troops needing to destroy or capture enemy anti-MCC missiles (not like we have now please it should be optional) But the primary objective being destroying the enemy's clone reserve. Supply Depots and CRUs should cost a **** ton of money in order to avoid them being spammed or being put very near the enemy's Outpost. Yeah you could do it. But know that they will destroy it and you would be wasting millions of ISK. I kinda want MCCs to be similar to Eve in terms of the way turrets fire and module selection. Only people that can get to pilot those should be picked and given the title by their corp in order to pilot one. And that's kinda the vision I had for the game. What were your visions guys? Been here since Mordus Private Trials Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7734	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:59:00 - [2] - Quote I just wanted to be paid by EVE corps to go in and kill things. I would take care of the ground war, and they would supply me with the weapons and ISK to do so. Still waiting. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4722	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:02:00 - [3] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Still waiting. Me too, buddy. Me too. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 431	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:02:00 - [4] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: I just wanted to be paid by EVE corps to go in and kill things. I would take care of the ground war, and they would supply me with the weapons and ISK to do so. Still waiting. This too. If the corp is short handed on ground troops they can always enlist more by looking for other mercs and paying them. Been here since Mordus Private Trials Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 67	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:03:00 - [5] - Quote Lol, you should have seen my vision for EVE. Let's just say that if I could run the company people like the goons would rage quit and post butthurt all over the forums. I just don't believe in one person's $15 per month being less than another person's $15 per month, I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 971	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:07:00 - [6] - Quote Pretty much had the same Should Legion be on the ps4?
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7734	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:07:00 - [7] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Still waiting. Me too, buddy. Me too. Good to know They'll get there eventually right? Even if it means Legion. They had just better port Leigon to PS4 if they do so.... Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Immortal John Ripper 25592	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:17:00 - [8] - Quote I envisioned myself as the #1 forum warrior. lord of tacos. Emperor of likes. Getting paid billions of isk to carry my team. Getting 1st in kdr and wp pretty much everygame. Overall winning everything and gaining all that is imaginable in this game. Mission accomplished. Tomorrow is my Birthday and I demand tacos.
General John Ripper 25595	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:17:00 - [9] - Quote I envisioned myself as the #1 forum warrior. lord of tacos. Emperor of likes. Getting paid billions of isk to carry my team. Getting 1st in kdr and wp pretty much everygame. Overall winning everything and gaining all that is imaginable in this game. Mission accomplished. Tomorrow is my Birthday and I demand tacos, beer, and bitches . Like my post is my status is not BIG enough.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 198	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:22:00 - [10] - Quote To be edited with my vision of Dust before the it was crushed into 20,000 pieces *For The State!*

The Noob Destroyer 1071	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:24:00 - [11] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: I envisioned myself as the #1 forum warrior. lord of tacos. Emperor of likes. Getting paid billions of isk to carry my team. Getting 1st in kdr and wp pretty much everygame. Overall winning everything and gaining all that is imaginable in this game. Mission accomplished. I guess dreams do come true in New Eden.... If your name is General John Ripper... Who am I? I am just a nobody. Like facts? #GetFact!
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 69	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:58:00 - [12] - Quote The Noob Destroyer wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: I envisioned myself as the #1 forum warrior. lord of tacos. Emperor of likes. Getting paid billions of isk to carry my team. Getting 1st in kdr and wp pretty much everygame. Overall winning everything and gaining all that is imaginable in this game. Mission accomplished. I guess dreams do come true in New Eden.... If your name is General John Ripper... Hey, what can I say, CCP got the forums right. Maybe they ought to do their own version of Facebook. They seem to have that idea going for them. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 435	Posted - 2014.11.13 23:20:00 - [13] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: The Noob Destroyer wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: I envisioned myself as the #1 forum warrior. lord of tacos. Emperor of likes. Getting paid billions of isk to carry my team. Getting 1st in kdr and wp pretty much everygame. Overall winning everything and gaining all that is imaginable in this game. Mission accomplished. I guess dreams do come true in New Eden.... If your name is General John Ripper... Hey, what can I say, CCP got the forums right. Maybe they ought to do their own version of Facebook. They seem to have that idea going for them. Why not make the forums like it's own version of facebook? We can post statuses and see the statuses of the people we have in our Contacts list. You know. So GD wouldn't be so claughed up in QQ threads.... Been here since Mordus Private Trials Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 374	Posted - 2014.11.13 23:55:00 - [14] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: I just wanted to be paid by EVE corps to go in and kill things. I would take care of the ground war, and they would supply me with the weapons and ISK to do so. Still waiting. This. I would REALLY like EVE to be paying us and supplying us with gear. Player market would kick ass... Ghost Kaisar wrote: They had just better port Leigon to PS4 if they do so.... And this. Damn Kaisar, you are on a roll this thread.
Jammeh McJam F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 128	Posted - 2014.11.14 00:17:00 - [15] - Quote I want massive battles on whole planets (or at least continents) not small maps like we have atm. But that would be pointless with a limit to how many people can be in a fight at a time, it has to be able to support at least 1 thousand mercs in 1 fight, not including all the vehicles that are called in. Also I want more variations of aircraft, like massive transport aircraft that contain dropships, jets, bombers and RDVs with all the HAVs, LAVs and MAVs that the corporation/alliance has bought or built to be used. With this, fights would be amazing and organised warfare would be vital, instead of just field commanders and fleet commanders, the battles would have to be set up like how mag ranks were, with platoon leaders, OICs and squad leaders on the ground, with squadron leaders for fleets of dropships/jets following the MCC and vehicle transport, and people in charge of massive tank columns. This would be amazing to see, especially when the fighting takes place on a whole planet, it would be like planetside 2 on steroids. "We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends MAG ~ Raven vet
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 439	Posted - 2014.11.14 00:20:00 - [16] - Quote Jammeh McJam wrote: I want massive battles on whole planets (or at least continents) not small maps like we have atm. But that would be pointless with a limit to how many people can be in a fight at a time, it has to be able to support at least 1 thousand mercs in 1 fight, not including all the vehicles that are called in. Also I want more variations of aircraft, like massive transport aircraft that contain dropships, jets, bombers and RDVs with all the HAVs, LAVs and MAVs that the corporation/alliance has bought or built to be used. With this, fights would be amazing and organised warfare would be vital, instead of just field commanders and fleet commanders, the battles would have to be set up like how mag ranks were, with platoon leaders, OICs and squad leaders on the ground, with squadron leaders for fleets of dropships/jets following the MCC and vehicle transport, and people in charge of massive tank columns. This would be amazing to see, especially when the fighting takes place on a whole planet, it would be like planetside 2 on steroids. The maps we have now are bits and pieces divided from the original sized maps. There are 3 maps in Dust divided into the maps we play toady. So the maps are pretty big, they just need to take away the redline and unify them. Been here since Mordus Private Trials Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
Jammeh McJam F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 129	Posted - 2014.11.14 00:27:00 - [17] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Jammeh McJam wrote: I want massive battles on whole planets (or at least continents) not small maps like we have atm. But that would be pointless with a limit to how many people can be in a fight at a time, it has to be able to support at least 1 thousand mercs in 1 fight, not including all the vehicles that are called in. Also I want more variations of aircraft, like massive transport aircraft that contain dropships, jets, bombers and RDVs with all the HAVs, LAVs and MAVs that the corporation/alliance has bought or built to be used. With this, fights would be amazing and organised warfare would be vital, instead of just field commanders and fleet commanders, the battles would have to be set up like how mag ranks were, with platoon leaders, OICs and squad leaders on the ground, with squadron leaders for fleets of dropships/jets following the MCC and vehicle transport, and people in charge of massive tank columns. This would be amazing to see, especially when the fighting takes place on a whole planet, it would be like planetside 2 on steroids. The maps we have now are bits and pieces divided from the original sized maps. There are 3 maps in Dust divided into the maps we play toady. So the maps are pretty big, they just need to take away the redline and unify them. I know, but even that'snot big enough, when i say big i mean really big, with proper cities, dotted around and factories that are made up of 2-3 sockets each. It won't just be battles that rely on having the most firepower, but battles that rely on holding the critical locations and using dedicated scanning aircraft to find large groups of enemies, for the OIC to look at and plan the next move in the war there. These battles will probably last for hours but it's not like they would happen often. They would probably only happen in wars between massive alliances, smaller corps and alliances would do similar things but on a smaller scale because they don't have as many people, such as hit and run attacks on another corporations factory in order to steal some of their blueprints and resources, or simply to go on a killing spree. "We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends MAG ~ Raven vet
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 376	Posted - 2014.11.14 00:30:00 - [18] - Quote You are thinking PlanetSide 2 style. The PS3 can't do this.
medomai grey WarRavens Capital Punishment. 1087	Posted - 2014.11.14 00:32:00 - [19] - Quote Many people consider Fanfest to be the death of Dust 514. But in reality, it was the acknowledgment that Dust514 had greatly deviated from its glorious vision to a cookie cutter lobby shooter; and that CCP would continue to strive to make their vision for Dust514 a reality via EVE:Legion. I did not spend $50 on F2P game to support a cookie cutter lobby shooter. I spent $50 on CCP because I believed in CCPs vision and ability. Honestly regreting it. How to balance cloaks.
Jammeh McJam F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 129	Posted - 2014.11.14 00:33:00 - [20] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: You are thinking PlanetSide 2 style. The PS3 can't do this. i don't want it on ps3, i'm thinking about what could be done on legion. ps3 can't do anything when it comes to big wars, MAG was the closest game to get there. "We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends MAG ~ Raven vet

Jammeh McJam F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 129	Posted - 2014.11.14 00:35:00 - [21] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Many people consider Fanfest to be the death of Dust 514. But in reality, it was the acknowledgment that Dust514 had greatly deviated from its glorious vision to a cookie cutter lobby shooter; and that CCP would continue to strive to make their vision for Dust514 a reality via EVE:Legion. I did not spend $50 on F2P game to support a cookie cutter lobby shooter. I spent $50 on CCP because I believed in CCPs vision and ability. Honestly regreting it. I've hung around for 2+ years because of CCP's vision, i would never have started the game if it wasn't for the idea of having massive wars over multiple systems between 2 or more player owned alliances being supplied by a player market. That right there is why i'm still here "We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends MAG ~ Raven vet
Louis Domi Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 775	Posted - 2014.11.14 02:00:00 - [22] - Quote I think the main reason I keep coming back to play dust is because of the forums.... But when I actually play the game I'm just like a grumpy old fart.. Now you guys are talking about visions and **, making me remember my old visions for this game... Making me turn on my ps3 to give it another chance... (Just finished playing one game) it ** everything
137H4RGIC Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 297	Posted - 2014.11.14 02:17:00 - [23] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Still waiting. Me too, buddy. Me too. Me three. I want to help DUST become a better experience for everyone. Let's work together! 137H4RGIC - Running for CPM2 (SOONGäó)
jane stalin Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2014.11.14 02:36:00 - [24] - Quote I wanted battles that matter I am not an EVE player but I would enjoy being on the LOSING side of massive fight more than I care about about being on the winning side of a Dust514.
medomai grey WarRavens Capital Punishment. 1087	Posted - 2014.11.14 02:38:00 - [25] - Quote Jammeh McJam wrote: medomai grey wrote: Many people consider Fanfest to be the death of Dust 514. But in reality, it was the acknowledgment that Dust514 had greatly deviated from its glorious vision to a cookie cutter lobby shooter; and that CCP would continue to strive to make their vision for Dust514 a reality via EVE:Legion. I did not spend $50 on F2P game to support a cookie cutter lobby shooter. I spent $50 on CCP because I believed in CCPs vision and ability. Honestly regreting it. I've hung around for 2+ years because of CCP's vision, i would never have started the game if it wasn't for the idea of having massive wars over multiple systems between 2 or more player owned alliances being supplied by a player market. That right there is why i'm still here You can technically have massive coordinated wars in PS2. But the fighting is meaningless in the long run. Then again the fighting in this lobby shooter also lacks any meaning. So... Ideas and concepts are nice, but as consumers, we need something tangible. We can't wait forever on ideas and concepts alone; especially when CCP refusing to share progress on EVE: Legion. How to balance cloaks.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 441	Posted - 2014.11.14 02:53:00 - [26] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Still waiting. Me too, buddy. Me too. Me three. Hopefully "Other Contracts" would be for that Been here since Mordus Private Trials Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 800	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:48:00 - [27] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Lol, you should have seen my vision for EVE. Let's just say that if I could run the company people like the goons would rage quit and post butthurt all over the forums. I just don't believe in one person's $15 per month being less than another person's $15 per month, I'm not entirely sure what this means, could you explain? How is a goons 15bux > anyone else's 15bux?
Kain Spero Goonfeet 3814	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:48:00 - [28] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: I just wanted to be paid by EVE corps to go in and kill things. I would take care of the ground war, and they would supply me with the weapons and ISK to do so. Still waiting. Pretty much. Also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mlVuLs_Nw Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 476	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:55:00 - [29] - Quote Tight integration of "EVE" and "DUST" elements, being two windows to the same system. Competent handling from start to finish. A pipe dream, I know. DUST should have been an expansion to EVE. Introduce all items to the eve market like any other new addition to EVE. Add skills and fits to EVE. Everything should have grown out from EVE, instead of trying to grow a second separate entity with its own evolutionary history and merge the two together.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 533	Posted - 2014.11.14 19:46:00 - [30] - Quote I just wanted my hmg to have more dps than any rifle, it finally did, but then i just got continousley ganked by sg/re scouts instead.

Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 151	Posted - 2014.11.14 21:11:00 - [31] - Quote I thought battles was going to matter, but in hindsight I don't think CCP even knew how they were going to do it. It is like they were saying buzzwords half the time. They didn't even show any playable concepts either.


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