Lets take the Caldari for example. Once at the beginning of fw release it was equal then one week the gal got some support from a corp which followed by another then another which led to the current trend of everyone vs starters and true loyalists in cal fw. We need a reward system for staying loyal to your faction the current loyalty system to be quite frank is dumb. You get a barely visible increase in lp.
I suggest free suits or weapons hell even vehicles every 5 games you win. Not alot like 25 suits and weapoms and 5 vehicles. Something along this line to get people to stay. Also if we had to actually sign up for fw it'd be even better but ccp doesnt want to do that.

Im loyal.
And honestly why all that QQ around, i saw you in manz threads where you basicaly talking about "how caldari sucks".
Who is loyal here, if you want change system just because something is wrong with side what you chosed, its mean thats not loyalty.
Loyalty is full support of ideology what you choose without any remarks.
I can take when my matari lost against AMARIAN "god hands" yesterday (helvete i still have LP and some SPs too) and that all what i need, because im PIRMATAR and i will fight.
What about you, why you cant bear your decision to fight for Caldarian warfare, why you want change system?!
Because caldarians lost, thats not loyalty boyo

I think the main issue is that most players simply see FW as a place to get free (or practically free) PRO gear as opposed to an on-going struggle to further the goals of their empire. And for all intents and purposes, it is.

Given how even at L1 you still earn about 1k LP per match simply running for all factions to obtain PRO suits and early access to all gear is not only feasible, but far more rewarding to most players.

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That aside, I believe that there needs to be actual rewards for being loyal. While simply giving out gear ever match or so doesn't seem practical, perhaps gear (maybe even BPOs) locked behind a certain Standing Lvl would work. For instance, would you keep playing for Caldari FW if you could get a Caldari Assault with the Caldari Navy skin?

However, I also believe that the way FW works also needs an overhaul. As opposed to queuing up for a battle in the "Battle Finder", you should have to go to the star map and select which planet or district you would like to attack.

Upon selecting the district, players who've enlisted in the opposing Militia would receive a message in their Notifications Inbox, stating that you have X minutes to prepare for an attack on that district. If they fail to send troops to defend, your militia will simply start the match w/o them (basically a no-show).

IIRC there is a timer or the FW districts, which would prevent a faction from attacking every single district at once to have an undisputed win and +60-80% control by doing absolutely nothing. Along with that, these attacks could only be made by a team of "Patrols" (as CCP calls it), to prevent blueberries from spamming attacks.

And yes, I ripped most of that from a True Adamance.

I merc for Gal but I will help you Cal... things out. At least until I get my Cal assault mustard edition.

I think the main issue is that most players simply see FW as a place to get free (or practically free) PRO gear as opposed to an on-going struggle to further the goals of their empire. And for all intents and purposes, it is.

Given how even at L1 you still earn about 1k LP per match simply running for all factions to obtain PRO suits and early access to all gear is not only feasible, but far more rewarding to most players.

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That aside, I believe that there needs to be actual rewards for being loyal. While simply giving out gear ever match or so doesn't seem practical, perhaps gear (maybe even BPOs) locked behind a certain Standing Lvl would work. For instance, would you keep playing for Caldari FW if you could get a Caldari Assault with the Caldari Navy skin?

However, I also believe that the way FW works also needs an overhaul. As opposed to queuing up for a battle in the "Battle Finder", you should have to go to the star map and select which planet or district you would like to attack.

Upon selecting the district, players who've enlisted in the opposing Militia would receive a message in their Notifications Inbox, stating that you have X minutes to prepare for an attack on that district. If they fail to send troops to defend, your militia will simply start the match w/o them (basically a no-show).

IIRC there is a timer or the FW districts, which would prevent a faction from attacking every single district at once to have an undisputed win and +60-80% control by doing absolutely nothing. Along with that, these attacks could only be made by a team of "Patrols" (as CCP calls it), to prevent blueberries from spamming attacks.

And yes, I ripped most of that from a True Adamance.

Lets take the Caldari for example. Once at the beginning of fw release it was equal then one week the gal got some support from a corp which followed by another then another which led to the current trend of everyone vs starters and true loyalists in cal fw. We need a reward system for staying loyal to your faction the current loyalty system to be quite frank is dumb. You get a barely visible increase in lp.
I suggest free suits or weapons hell even vehicles every 5 games you win. Not alot like 25 suits and weapoms and 5 vehicles. Something along this line to get people to stay. Also if we had to actually sign up for fw it'd be even better but ccp doesnt want to do that.

Decent idea. Without commenting on the bulk of the post, I just wanted to mention that Sgt. Kirk came up with the name Patrols. Not CCP.

Just wanna give credit where it is due

Link me the post where i said "caldari suck" I'll give you 20 million isk if you can find where i said caldari suck as a faction. I have nothing but love for the state

Im not asking for help im asking for more factional loyalty within the game like a rehaul of fw

I personally think the only reason the ck suck is because they have the SR in there loyalty store so you guys get more snipers and snipers lose battles. I mean you guys have the best suits and the first or second rifle I am currently transitioning to ck now from gk because they have the worse suit/bonus and the worse rifle.

lol @ OP whining about loyalty.

http://dustboard.com/global/merc/Jacques_Cayton_II

Maybe if you practice what you preach someone might take you seriously.

ITT : squids qq'ing like soccer mom's that little Timmy didn't get his participation trophy for losing.
Maybe if you didn't suck so badly you wouldn't even be in this situation. Hell, CCP pretty much had to cater to the Caldari and give a crutch so it's literally impossible for you to lose the war. They removed mechanics that would be able to fix both our problems.

Also the whole thing about only being able to team deploy against other teams in FW to cater to babies like you is pants - on- head ********. That'd be like saying fleets in eve wouldn't be able to roam or plex through FW space unless there's a fleet of similar strength and composition flying for the other side to protect high sec babies in their level 1 frigates incase they accidentally stumble the region. It kills the emergent experience and is just bad design. No player or corp got where they are just blue dotting their way around. CCP games are not games for soloing.

TL; DR htfu git gud and join a corp.

ITT : squids qq'ing like soccer mom's that little Timmy didn't get his participation trophy for losing.
Maybe if you didn't suck so badly you wouldn't even be in this situation. Hell, CCP pretty much had to cater to the Caldari and give a crutch so it's literally impossible for you to lose the war. They removed mechanics that would be able to fix both our problems.

Also the whole thing about only being able to team deploy against other teams in FW to cater to babies like you is pants - on- head ********. That'd be like saying fleets in eve wouldn't be able to roam or plex through FW space unless there's a fleet of similar strength and composition flying for the other side to protect high sec babies in their level 1 frigates incase they accidentally stumble the region. It kills the emergent experience and is just bad design. No player or corp got where they are just blue dotting their way around. DUST is not a game for soloing.

TL; DR htfu git gud and join a corp.

Damn Cayton.

At least you spent most of your time in FA

Damn Cayton.

At least you spent most of your time in FA

ITT : squids qq'ing like soccer mom's that little Timmy didn't get his participation trophy for losing.
Maybe if you didn't suck so badly you wouldn't even be in this situation. Hell, CCP pretty much had to cater to the Caldari and give a crutch so it's literally impossible for you to lose the war. They removed mechanics that would be able to fix both our problems.

Also the whole thing about only being able to team deploy against other teams in FW to cater to babies like you is pants - on- head ********. That'd be like saying fleets in eve wouldn't be able to roam or plex through FW space unless there's a fleet of similar strength and composition flying for the other side to protect high sec babies in their level 1 frigates incase they accidentally stumble the region. It kills the emergent experience and is just bad design. No player or corp got where they are just blue dotting their way around. DUST is not a game for soloing.

TL; DR htfu git gud and join a corp.

lol @ OP whining about loyalty.

http://dustboard.com/global/merc/Jacques_Cayton_II

Maybe if you practice what you preach someone might take you seriously.

Over half are my corporations the others either are failed caldari loyalist corps or failed pc corps. And besides my loyalty has always been with the state pc corps besides i stole isk from some corps

for the love of god yes. no one wants these caldari noobs coming over to the gallente side.

Caldari noobs? No, just plain blueberries that are shared between the faction with 0 loyalty for any of the factions which angers me quite a bit, I mean I can respect Gallente loyalists (to a certain extent) but them? I utterly despise them.