DUST Search - Excessive protostomping in Amarr/Minmatar FW

Blueprint For Murder wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Blueprint For Murder wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Blueprint For Murder wrote:

So people only need to que sync 2 1/2 groups in order to compete... sounds legit... I wish I would have thought of that....

It's not about "You" individually as a player.

If myself and 15 other players decided to actively group ourselves up to complete a task we will do it significantly better, fast, etc than one player. This is one of the fundamentals of FW , as it should be in Dust, and as it is in EVE. I can't go whining to CCP that the Minmatar militia scanned down my lone tormentor and dropped a half dozen fleeted frigates on me because its unfair.

M8 if it were fundamental they would have team deploy.. now they may add team deploy, but until they do it is just exploitation of the MM system and the low FW pop.

Mate................. mate.............. mate bro mate....

Your telling me you feel entitled to win for fights for putting in less effort and not having to work in a team based game.....with a team?

I think you read my comment wrong m8 it obviously shows appreciation for the idea. So again each other player is meant to exploit in order to face these insurmountable odds? I just want to make sure I have it right your telling me I should knowingly exploit the games mechanics to win matches because it works for you bro?

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Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7678	Posted - 2014.11.13 01:54:00 - [31] - Quote danie braz wrote: Whats the mfw chat? I'll send you an invite, logging on now. Also: I love your sig, you Arsenic Sulfur. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries 679	Posted - 2014.11.13 02:15:00 - [32] - Quote No. I disagree with the use of proto in pubs but I will gladly annihilate the minmatar with as much overkill as possible. Follow the light or we will drag you to it.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14526	Posted - 2014.11.13 02:23:00 - [33] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: No. I disagree with the use of proto in pubs but I will gladly annihilate the minmatar with as much overkill as possible. Follow the light or we will drag you to it. What he said don't **** with us "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 264	Posted - 2014.11.13 02:42:00 - [34] - Quote Lol you guys are so ate up you don't face any squads let alone que synced ones most of the guys on the teams are complete noobs so stop trying to justify your exploitation of the mm. I mean the guys you face in most of these matches team kill, destroy friendly equipment, sit in ds to steal it, and if they end up behind for a min just afk the rest of the match that is who you guys face. It is comical if you guys really believe otherwise. The Impossible Dream and Wizard Talk
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14528	Posted - 2014.11.13 02:46:00 - [35] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: Lol you guys are so ate up you don't face any squads let alone que synced ones most of the guys on the teams are complete noobs so stop trying to justify your exploitation of the mm. I mean the guys you face in most of these matches team kill, destroy friendly equipment, sit in ds to steal it, and if they end up behind for a min just afk the rest of the match that is who you guys face. It is comical if you guys really believe otherwise. Fought a team of OSG Planetary last night with Cross Atu in it (who wrecked my Templar Fits.... but I came back and ruined his squads equipment spam with a Br ScP). I've fought Q-Syncs of Fatal Absolution, EVOLUCION, Restlessspirits,New Age Outlaws, Ancient Exiles, Vengeance Unbound, etc. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5244	Posted - 2014.11.13 02:50:00 - [36] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: Lol you guys are so ate up you don't face any squads let alone que synced ones most of the guys on the teams are complete noobs so stop trying to justify your exploitation of the mm. I mean the guys you face in most of these matches team kill, destroy friendly equipment, sit in ds to steal it, and if they end up behind for a min just afk the rest of the match that is who you guys face. It is comical if you guys really believe otherwise. You were in the match I was talking about earlier. There were 6-8 PC players on both sides and it was a bloodbath. You are so full of ****. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 265	Posted - 2014.11.13 02:59:00 - [37] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: Lol you guys are so ate up you don't face any squads let alone que synced ones most of the guys on the teams are complete noobs so stop trying to justify your exploitation of the mm. I mean the guys you face in most of these matches team kill, destroy friendly equipment, sit in ds to steal it, and if they end up behind for a min just afk the rest of the match that is who you guys face. It is comical if you guys really believe otherwise. You were in the match I was talking about earlier. There were 6-8 PC players on both sides and it was a bloodbath. You are so full of **. Thor Odinson42 wrote:** I just got redlined with two squads synced. It was a mix of randoms with some alliance bros, but it surprised me. It's going to take time to sort squads and use tactics if this trend continues. That is awesome news, I hope this continues. Lol I think your mistaken m8 I have not won a match since early yesterday let alone red lined anyone. I have won 2 out of around 30 matches in the last two days one for gk. and the other for ak. The Impossible Dream and Wizard Talk
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5245	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:03:00 - [38] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: Lol you guys are so ate up you don't face any squads let alone que synced ones most of the guys on the teams are complete noobs so stop trying to justify your exploitation of the mm. I mean the guys you face in most of these matches team kill, destroy friendly equipment, sit in ds to steal it, and if they end up behind for a min just afk the rest of the match that is who you guys face. It is comical if you guys really believe otherwise. You were in the match I was talking about earlier. There were 6-8 PC players on both sides and it was a bloodbath. You are so full of **. Thor Odinson42 wrote:** I just got redlined with two squads synced. It was a mix of randoms with some alliance bros, but it surprised me. It's going to take time to sort squads and use tactics if this trend continues. That is awesome news, I hope this continues. Lol I think your mistaken m8 I have not won a match since early yesterday let alone red lined anyone. I have won 2 out of around 30 matches in the last two days one for gk. and the other for ak. Okay well you were in a match with me. I actually said I'd pay 100K every time someone killed you because of all your whining on the forums about players that try to win. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 519	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:06:00 - [39] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: Lol you guys are so ate up you don't face any squads let alone que synced ones most of the guys on the teams are complete noobs so stop trying to justify your exploitation of the mm. I mean the guys you face in most of these matches team kill, destroy friendly equipment, sit in ds to steal it, and if they end up behind for a min just afk the rest of the match that is who you guys face. It is comical if you guys really believe otherwise. You were in the match I was talking about earlier. There were 6-8 PC players on both sides and it was a bloodbath. You are so full of **. Thor Odinson42 wrote:** I just got redlined with two squads synced. It was a mix of randoms with some alliance bros, but it surprised me. It's going to take time to sort squads and use tactics if this trend continues. That is awesome news, I hope this continues. Lol I think your mistaken m8 I have not won a match since early yesterday let alone red lined anyone. I have won 2 out of around 30 matches in the last two days one for gk. and the other for ak. Okay well you were in a match with me. I actually said I'd pay 100K every time someone killed you because of all your whining on the forums about players that try to win. Give them nothing, but take from them everything!
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 630	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:08:00 - [40] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: I've been in a match where the guys on the Minmatar side stomped the freaking life out of my team. They captured all the objectives and terminated all our clones, but they still had over 120 clones left... This is utter bull**, and the only way I see this getting fixed is nerfing squads' size or the amount of full squads allowed per team. Something has to change. Protostomp is not issue, last few games i found lagg again and i hate lag boyo "Savvy"**

Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 265	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:39:00 - [41] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I actually said I'd pay 100K every time someone killed you . You have no idea how big of a smile that has given me I am flattered 8D. The tryhards often forget that there is a difference between skill and exploitation I am sorry I unintentionally remind you when I give the devs feedback that I hope they can use to better the game experience for everyone. The Impossible Dream and Wizard Talk
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7679	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:27:00 - [42] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Okay well you were in a match with me. I actually said I'd pay 100K every time someone killed you because of all your whining on the forums about players that try to win. Give them nothing, but take from them everything! We were actually screaming this in squads a few nights ago. Ghost: Okay, what's the game plan guys? What do we have to work with? Dude 1: TAKE ALL OF THE OBJECTIVES Dude 2: GIVE THEM NOTHING Ghost: AND TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING Minmatar war cries We have fun in that chat a lot. If Aero is in here: First few matches were a lot of fun. It seems like most of your support left after we won twice though After that it got boring again. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Henrietta Unknown Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 468	Posted - 2014.11.13 06:16:00 - [43] - Quote And here I am, playing on all sides. I'll leave that up to you to interpret. pops a can Give the Magsex some love.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10236	Posted - 2014.11.13 07:02:00 - [44] - Quote No. FW is basically PC-Lite. It's meant to be hard. Deal with it. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Her Chosen Grade No.2 41	Posted - 2014.11.13 07:22:00 - [45] - Quote Truth is, the Amarr A-team hasn't played today... consider yourself lucky to not be redlined in 40 seconds of you played Mimtard today. Maybe tomorrow. I played only 4 matches today. Won all 4 in usual fashion too. Even in the lagfest. And I do it for pride and uplinks. APEX suits are simply a stupid idea.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2161	Posted - 2014.11.13 08:25:00 - [46] - Quote We went round robin tonight for a few hours. GGwasEZ
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1628	Posted - 2014.11.13 08:40:00 - [47] - Quote problem is still matchmaking. CCP claims squads get match together but I very often get thrown into a bunch of randoms against a organized squad... there isnt much that you can do when a few people are sitting on a hill and the rest is running in a random direction.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1119	Posted - 2014.11.13 08:57:00 - [48] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: I've been in a match where the guys on the Minmatar side stomped the freaking life out of my team. They captured all the objectives and terminated all our clones, but they still had over 120 clones left... This is utter bull****, and the only way I see this getting fixed is nerfing squads' size or the amount of full squads allowed per team. Something has to change. WTF needs to be fixed about this? We even got beat up today and we were Q-Syncing but thats the fun of it. A victory is no fun if it is handed to you. We put up a few good fights but in the end we just did not have our normal coordination and lost. The only thing that needs to be fixed is make match size 18 per side so we can bring 3 full squads.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 267	Posted - 2014.11.13 09:03:00 - [49] - Quote So people only need to que sync 2 1/2 groups in order to compete... sounds legit... I wish I would have thought of that.... The Impossible Dream and Wizard Talk
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14549	Posted - 2014.11.13 10:42:00 - [50] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: So people only need to que sync 2 1/2 groups in order to compete... sounds legit... I wish I would have thought of that.... It's not about "You" individually as a player. If myself and 15 other players decided to actively group ourselves up to complete a task we will do it significantly better, fast, etc than one player. This is one of the fundamentals of FW , as it should be in Dust, and as it is in EVE. I can't go whining to CCP that the Minmatar militia scanned down my lone tormentor and dropped a half dozen fleeted frigates on me because its unfair. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14549	Posted - 2014.11.13 10:44:00 - [51] - Quote Her Chosen wrote: Truth is, the Amarr A-team hasn't played today... consider yourself lucky to not be redlined in 40 seconds of you played Mimtard today. Maybe tomorrow. I played only 4 matches today. Won all 4 in usual fashion too. Even in the lagfest. And I do it for pride and uplinks. APEX suits are simply a stupid idea. If you are interested in squadding with any of the Amarr teams or syncing your own squads with us in PIE Ground Control or Amarr 1 please do shout out to us in those channels. PCLAS has more new members than it ever has, our vets are coming back, and we'd really like to work with the rest of the militia to get back to our old levels of team work and quality. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
501st Headstrong Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 710	Posted - 2014.11.13 11:21:00 - [52] - Quote I've fought gainst True Adamance before. If battles are beginning that level of quality and he's A-Team is coming back, then f*** yeah I'll fight for the Minmatar again. Hope you guys can bring it and got isk to burn, because I will spam Min suits at you like I'm the CEO of Walmart Ace Boone's Son/ Danizzle's Friend/ OG GAM4LIfe "Are you a boy or girl?" -Most asked question in Dust Waiting for SWBF
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 267	Posted - 2014.11.13 12:25:00 - [53] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: So people only need to que sync 2 1/2 groups in order to compete... sounds legit... I wish I would have thought of that.... It's not about "You" individually as a player. If myself and 15 other players decided to actively group ourselves up to complete a task we will do it significantly better, fast, etc than one player. This is one of the fundamentals of FW , as it should be in Dust, and as it is in EVE. I can't go whining to CCP that the Minmatar militia scanned down my lone tormentor and dropped a half dozen fleeted frigates on me because its unfair. M8 if it were fundamental they would have team deploy.. now they may add team deploy, but until they do it is just exploitation of the MM system and the low FW pop. The Impossible Dream and Wizard Talk
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14551	Posted - 2014.11.13 12:28:00 - [54] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: True Adamance wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: So people only need to que sync 2 1/2 groups in order to compete... sounds legit... I wish I would have thought of that.... It's not about "You" individually as a player. If myself and 15 other players decided to actively group ourselves up to complete a task we will do it significantly better, fast, etc than one player. This is one of the fundamentals of FW , as it should be in Dust, and as it is in EVE. I can't go whining to CCP that the Minmatar militia scanned down my lone tormentor and dropped a half dozen fleeted frigates on me because its unfair. M8 if it were fundamental they would have team deploy.. now they may add team deploy, but until they do it is just exploitation of the MM system and the low FW pop. Mate................. mate.............. mate bro mate.... Your telling me you feel entitled to win for fights for putting in less effort and not having to work in a team based game.....with a team? "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5255	Posted - 2014.11.13 12:51:00 - [55] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: True Adamance wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: So people only need to que sync 2 1/2 groups in order to compete... sounds legit... I wish I would have thought of that.... It's not about "You" individually as a player. If myself and 15 other players decided to actively group ourselves up to complete a task we will do it significantly better, fast, etc than one player. This is one of the fundamentals of FW , as it should be in Dust, and as it is in EVE. I can't go whining to CCP that the Minmatar militia scanned down my lone tormentor and dropped a half dozen fleeted frigates on me because its unfair. M8 if it were fundamental they would have team deploy.. now they may add team deploy, but until they do it is just exploitation of the MM system and the low FW pop. Mate................. mate.............. mate bro mate.... Your telling me you feel entitled to win for fights for putting in less effort and not having to work in a team based game.....with a team? If you try to reason with it, it will only make you want to squeeze it until it stops moving. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7699	Posted - 2014.11.13 13:03:00 - [56] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: I've fought gainst True Adamance before. If battles are beginning that level of quality and he's A-Team is coming back, then f*** yeah I'll fight for the Minmatar again. Hope you guys can bring it and got isk to burn, because I will spam Min suits at you like I'm the CEO of Walmart Get in the Minmatar Millitia Chat channel. Send me an in game mail (Or any other big Matari fan, we've got a lot in there now) Battles are getting great. Starting to feel like a war again. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 267	Posted - 2014.11.13 13:09:00 - [57] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: True Adamance wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: So people only need to que sync 2 1/2 groups in order to compete... sounds legit... I wish I would have thought of that.... It's not about "You" individually as a player. If myself and 15 other players decided to actively group ourselves up to complete a task we will do it significantly better, fast, etc than one player. This is one of the fundamentals of FW , as it should be in Dust, and as it is in EVE. I can't go whining to CCP that the Minmatar militia scanned down my lone tormentor and dropped a half dozen fleeted frigates on me because its unfair. M8 if it were fundamental they would have team deploy.. now they may add team deploy, but until they do it is just exploitation of the MM system and the low FW pop. Mate................. mate.............. mate bro mate.... Your telling me you feel entitled to win for fights for putting in less effort and not having to work in a team based game.....with a team? I think you read my comment wrong m8 it obviously shows appreciation for the idea. So again each other player is meant to exploit in order to face these insurmountable odds? I just want to make sure I have it right your telling me I should knowingly exploit the games mechanics to win matches because it works for you bro? The Impossible Dream and Wizard Talk
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5255	Posted - 2014.11.13 13:28:00 - [58] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: True Adamance wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: True Adamance wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: So people only need to que sync 2 1/2 groups in order to compete... sounds legit... I wish I would have thought of that.... It's not about "You" individually as a player. If myself and 15 other players decided to actively group ourselves up to complete a task we will do it significantly better, fast, etc than one player. This is one of the fundamentals of FW , as it should be in Dust, and as it is in EVE. I can't go whining to CCP that the Minmatar militia scanned down my lone tormentor and dropped a half dozen fleeted frigates on me because its unfair. M8 if it were fundamental they would have team deploy.. now they may add team deploy, but until they do it is just exploitation of the MM system and the low FW pop. Mate................. mate.............. mate bro mate.... Your telling me you feel entitled to win for fights for putting in less effort and not having to work in a team based game.....with a team? I think you read my comment wrong m8 it obviously shows appreciation for the idea. So again each other player is meant to exploit in order to face these insurmountable odds? I just want to make sure I have it right your telling me I should knowingly exploit the games mechanics to win matches because it works for you bro? There's no matchmaking in FW for a reason. I have no idea why they don't give us a way to deploy an entire team, but we don't have it in PC either. You deploy as individual squads. Instead being a huge ***** about things why don't you find a group of other socialist minded folks and you guys can make sure that everyone is using the same level of gear, do a quick FOTM check, make sure that Bob doesn't get more kills than Tom, etc. And if you lose, we'll send you a participation trophy. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 267	Posted - 2014.11.13 15:01:00 - [59] - Quote Are you trying to tell me you que sink to get into pc together... anyway I found this not that I really think it has much bearing on the current plans for FW. This statement was made before pc and the reason many of you believe that it is ok. CCP Nullarbor Does this mean we will be able to queue sync in faction warfare? Yes, provided there are enough spots open up you can organize to fill one side of a battle. We expect this will be home to more organized squads of players who either do not have any corp activity at the time or are not interested in planetary conquest but are after more competitive gameplay. This was speculation on the state of fw before pc and while it is more competitive the pool of players and active guilds is to small to support any real competition with 2.5 squads que sinking. I also doubt this was planed by the current team to help new players to balance out the skill/isk disparity as described. I seems obvious, but I expect to much from others. The Impossible Dream and Wizard Talk
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 621	Posted - 2014.11.13 16:24:00 - [60] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: I've been in a match where the guys on the Minmatar side stomped the freaking life out of my team. They captured all the objectives and terminated all our clones, but they still had over 120 clones left... This is utter bull****, and the only way I see this getting fixed is nerfing squads' size or the amount of full squads allowed per team. Something has to change. So you're saying that teamwork's OP, and we should nerf it? Lemme guess, you were lonewolfing? If not, then consider squading with some better players! If anything, I'm glad to hear that this is happening; FW should be a step up from Pubs, and if you go in solo, or without a decent squad, you should expect to lose. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I survived 1.8! Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3



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