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Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18963	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:33:00 - [1] - Quote Some of these fits are cringe worthy. There is apparently a shield regulator on the Galassault. why You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4522	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:35:00 - [2] - Quote Because... Reasons.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14423	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:36:00 - [3] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Some of these fits are cringe worthy. There is apparently a shield regulator on the Galassault. why Two Shield Extenders on the Amarr Assault. ....but then again Rattati did take suggestions from the general player base and not those who respect racial purity....... IMO a Racial Amarr Assault should have looked. 3x Imperial Armour Plates (only 3 because no Resistance platings) 1x Imperial Armour Repairer 1x Range Extender 1x Light Weapon Modifer (only because NO HEAT SINKS) 1x Side Arm Modifier 1x Precision Enhancers "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13620	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:38:00 - [4] - Quote Cringes at the thought of how bad the Matari suits are probably fitted. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1027	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:39:00 - [5] - Quote Calmando with sniper rifle and swarm launcher For blueberries who enjoy sniping with a caldari logistics but thought "isn't there a better way to ensure I die every time anything gets closer than 50 meters?"
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18965	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:39:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: IMO a Racial Amarr Assault should have looked. 3x Imperial Armour Plates (only 3 because no Resistance platings) 1x Imperial Armour Repairer 1x Range Extender 1x Light Weapon Modifer (only because NO HEAT SINKS) 1x Side Arm Modifier 1x Precision Enhancers Honestly, I don't think this is a particularly good fit either. EWAR on a medium is lulzy in the extreme. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1687	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:39:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cringes at the thought of how bad the Matari suits are probably fitted. The Logi isn't horrible. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14425	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:41:00 - [8] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cringes at the thought of how bad the Matari suits are probably fitted. Hey Atiim guess what.... Minmatar Command0 Mybrofils! in all its high slots and Range Extenders in its lows! "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2960	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:41:00 - [9] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Some of these fits are cringe worthy. There is apparently a shield regulator on the Galassault. why CCP Ratatatatatata said that the fittings are not designed to be optimized as these are not meant to be pay to win. If they were optimized, then new players would just buy these and kill everyone - definition of pay to win. These suits are meant to be a middle ground for new players to have a little better gear while they learn the game and can skill into better fittings that are optimized. For veteran players these are nothing more than new items to grind in. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
Songs of Seraphim Murphys-Law 46	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:45:00 - [10] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Some of these fits are cringe worthy. There is apparently a shield regulator on the Galassault. why There's a shield extender on the Federation Assault gk.0... On the lows, I believe it's 2 Ferroscales, a Dampener, & 2 Armor Repairers. The suits aren't THAT bad. Except the Commando ck.0. I mean... Really?? Raging alcoholic. I play in a pink suit because it's the fabulous thing to do.

Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1620	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:46:00 - [11] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: IMO a Racial Amarr Assault should have looked. 3x Imperial Armour Plates (only 3 because no Resistance platings) 1x Imperial Armour Repairer 1x Range Extender 1x Light Weapon Modifer (only because NO HEAT SINKS) 1x Side Arm Modifier 1x Precision Enhancers Honestly, I don't think this is a particularly good fit either. EWAR on a medium is lulzy in the extreme. it is not good yet but CCP Rattati wrote: EWAR won't be useless on mediums, is my prediction he is preparing people for possible ewar changes in the future.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18965	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:47:00 - [12] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Some of these fits are cringe worthy. There is apparently a shield regulator on the Galassault. why There's a shield extender on the Federation Assault gk.0... On the lows, I believe it's 2 Ferroscales, a Dampener, & 2 Armor Repairers. The suits aren't THAT bad. Except the Commando ck.0. I mean... Really?? I read that it was a shield regulator, ferroscale, 2 reppers, and a dampener. Two of which are terrible slot spends and basic ferroscale is horrible. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14425	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:47:00 - [13] - Quote Hell if its got basic shield extenders on it I can't use it. NO SP IN SHIELD TECH! Filthy heathen trash that it is. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 53	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:49:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Some of these fits are cringe worthy. There is apparently a shield regulator on the Galassault. why Two Shield Extenders on the Amarr Assault. ....but then again Rattati did take suggestions from the general player base and not those who respect racial purity....... IMO a Racial Amarr Assault should have looked. 3x Imperial Armour Plates (only 3 because no Resistance platings) 1x Imperial Armour Repairer 1x Range Extender 1x Light Weapon Modifer (only because NO HEAT SINKS) 1x Side Arm Modifier 1x Precision Enhancers Yes, but do any of you notice something? It's telling. Look at the color schemes. They are all crossfactional colors. As in they are like pirate and bloodline oriented. The Amarr has a Caldari gray camo pattern mixed with the Amarr gold and a hint of black. Anybody that plays EVE recognize that as Khanid? The shield fitting proves what I was already thinking. Khanid are Amarr with Cal tech thrown in. The Minmatar suit is gold and looks a bit reddish (not sure, I'm colorblind and looking at a poor screen). Guess who? If it is running armor over shields then it is Amatar. The other two suits could represent pirate factions. In EVE, pirate faction ships are a hybrid mix of two main factions. Could this be a one time lark from the devs to be cute or is this the beginning of pirate and bloodline aurum variants? I've been thinking they should do that if they want non-bpo suits that people would pay money to use. EDIT: I think I'll post this as it's own thread! I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 144	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:50:00 - [15] - Quote Hehyo I think thoses suits are fitted like that to show new players all the mods they can put. And, If the suits were fitted (for example the caldassault with 3x shield extender 2x shield energizer) thoses fits would have become a bit too much powerfull. I think thoses fits are really good fitted, okey I don't have all the mods I wanted, but I think that's the good part of thoses suits Welcome to CAMPER 514 The game where you never touch the ground.
Songs of Seraphim Murphys-Law 46	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:52:00 - [16] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Songs of Seraphim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Some of these fits are cringe worthy. There is apparently a shield regulator on the Galassault. why There's a shield extender on the Federation Assault gk.0... On the lows, I believe it's 2 Ferroscales, a Dampener, & 2 Armor Repairers. The suits aren't THAT bad. Except the Commando ck.0. I mean... Really?? I read that it was a shield regulator, ferroscale, 2 reppers, and a dampener. Two of which are terrible slot spends and basic ferroscale is horrible. Are we reading the same spreadsheet?? Raging alcoholic. I play in a pink suit because it's the fabulous thing to do.
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1027	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:53:00 - [17] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Some of these fits are cringe worthy. There is apparently a shield regulator on the Galassault. why CCP Ratatatatatata said that the fittings are not designed to be optimized as these are not meant to be pay to win. If they were optimized, then new players would just buy these and kill everyone - definition of pay to win. These suits are meant to be a middle ground for new players to have a little better gear while they learn the game and can skill into better fittings that are optimized. For veteran players these are nothing more than new items to grind in. I doubt any significant number of new players are going to shell out $30 for just one of these things... and anyone who can stand the grind for 100k lp probably isn't a new player If there were cheap consumable versions available for LP this might actually accomplish something other than giving vets with a ***load of LP/$ shiny toys Or if these things cost... say, $10, they might make more total volume in sales. I'm not inclined to even spend $30 for one*, but if they were $10 each my fragile human psychology would derp out and I'd buy 5, and probably so would the alleged target audience of these suits But then again I don't have a buisness degree
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2960	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:03:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Hell if its got basic shield extenders on it I can't use it. NO SP IN SHIELD TECH! Filthy heathen trash that it is. There are no SP requirements for these suits. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4678	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:06:00 - [19] - Quote I am also very afraid of allowing BPO suits to be too powerful. I'd rather them underperform, and then buff them later, then deliver overpowered infinite use suits. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14425	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:06:00 - [20] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: True Adamance wrote: Hell if its got basic shield extenders on it I can't use it. NO SP IN SHIELD TECH! Filthy heathen trash that it is. There are no SP requirements for these suits. God rewards the JUST! "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon

PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 308	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:11:00 - [21] - Quote Are all the suits out yet? I'm only seeing 4 or 5 Gallente Assault-Caldari Logistics `- Open Beta Vet - 31mil sp - - Join the LFSquad chat -`
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18967	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:12:00 - [22] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Songs of Seraphim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Some of these fits are cringe worthy. There is apparently a shield regulator on the Galassault. why There's a shield extender on the Federation Assault gk.0... On the lows, I believe it's 2 Ferroscales, a Dampener, & 2 Armor Repairers. The suits aren't THAT bad. Except the Commando ck.0. I mean... Really?? I read that it was a shield regulator, ferroscale, 2 reppers, and a dampener. Two of which are terrible slot spends and basic ferroscale is horrible. Are we reading the same spreadsheet?? No. I'm not reading a spreadsheet. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4541	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:43:00 - [23] - Quote Warbarge Fashion 2.0? (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Henrietta Unknown Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 460	Posted - 2014.11.11 23:16:00 - [24] - Quote IMO, the properly fitted suits would be better than most STD suits and worse than most ADV suits. If CCP wanted to make them weaker than STD suits and better than militia, oh well. Give the Magsex some love.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18971	Posted - 2014.11.11 23:19:00 - [25] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: IMO, the properly fitted suits would be better than most STD suits and worse than most ADV suits. If CCP wanted to make them weaker than STD suits and better than militia, oh well. I am unconvinced they are better than militia. I assure you, I can get more than +35 armour HP and +5 HP/s reps out of a militia suit, even if it doesn't have 5 low slots. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
xavier zor G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 202	Posted - 2014.11.11 23:19:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Hell if its got basic shield extenders on it I can't use it. NO SP IN SHIELD TECH! Filthy heathen trash that it is. Shield tanking is OP now with the fast regen time compared to armor Highest plasma cannon kill: 132 metres
Henrietta Unknown Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 462	Posted - 2014.11.11 23:22:00 - [27] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: IMO, the properly fitted suits would be better than most STD suits and worse than most ADV suits. If CCP wanted to make them weaker than STD suits and better than militia, oh well. I am unconvinced they are better than militia. I assure you, I can get more than +35 armour HP and +5 HP/s reps out of a militia suit, even if it doesn't have 5 low slots. Do MLT suits get skill bonuses? Give the Magsex some love.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18971	Posted - 2014.11.11 23:24:00 - [28] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: IMO, the properly fitted suits would be better than most STD suits and worse than most ADV suits. If CCP wanted to make them weaker than STD suits and better than militia, oh well. I am unconvinced they are better than militia. I assure you, I can get more than +35 armour HP and +5 HP/s reps out of a militia suit, even if it doesn't have 5 low slots. Do MLT suits get skill bonuses? Ah, no, you are right. Still, in the cases where the bonus is unremarkable, I would quite happily use militia over these. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 95	Posted - 2014.11.11 23:32:00 - [29] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: Cringes at the thought of how bad the Matari suits are probably fitted. Hey Atiim guess what.... Minmatar Command0 Mybrofils! in all its high slots and Range Extenders in its lows! Pfffft, you're kidding, you're kidding, right? Choo Choo
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 95	Posted - 2014.11.11 23:37:00 - [30] - Quote xavier zor wrote: True Adamance wrote: Hell if its got basic shield extenders on it I can't use it. NO SP IN SHIELD TECH! Filthy heathen trash that it is. Shield tanking is OP now with the fast regen time compared to armor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4&list=LL8YoLLycWM8uYz-YkiPltkA&index=41 Choo Choo

hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 366	Posted - 2014.11.12 00:07:00 - [31] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Atiim wrote: Cringes at the thought of how bad the Matari suits are probably fitted. The Logi isn't horrible. what are the stats?
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3333	Posted - 2014.11.12 00:27:00 - [32] - Quote Hi I am sorry for the confusion I noticed the mistake but I haven't fixed it, while creating the protofts. I accidentally added a shield regulator I am very sorry. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5896	Posted - 2014.11.12 00:41:00 - [33] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: IMO a Racial Amarr Assault should have looked. 3x Imperial Armour Plates (only 3 because no Resistance platings) 1x Imperial Armour Repairer 1x Range Extender 1x Light Weapon Modifer (only because NO HEAT SINKS) 1x Side Arm Modifier 1x Precision Enhancers Honestly, I don't think this is a particularly good fit either. EWAR on a medium is lulzy in the extreme. Seriously Adamance. How can you forget cardiac regulators? They're a staple on Amarr suits that want to be dynamic. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
DarthPlagueis TheWise 367	Posted - 2014.11.12 00:42:00 - [34] - Quote dat burst AR on the gal logi Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5896	Posted - 2014.11.12 00:44:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: Cringes at the thought of how bad the Matari suits are probably fitted. Hey Atiim guess what.... Minmatar Command0 Mybrofils! in all its high slots and Range Extenders in its lows! Range extenders on the lows... What, were all PG extenders to good for them? Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Lloyd Orfay SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 203	Posted - 2014.11.12 01:31:00 - [36] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Some of these fits are cringe worthy. There is apparently a shield regulator on the Galassault. why All assaults can dual tank to some extent, but being notified of a shield regulator on a gal assault makes me have to use this video again to express my mixed feelings. "He is a madman, cackling behind a mountain of irrelevant data. " - DUST Fiend, Redberricus, 21:30
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5426	Posted - 2014.11.12 02:15:00 - [37] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: Calmando with sniper rifle and swarm launcher For blueberries who enjoy sniping with a caldari logistics but thought "isn't there a better way to ensure I die every time anything gets closer than 50 meters?" Correction: For people who want to snipe but also switch to a Swarm Launcher on the fly when an ADS comes to try and stop them from sniping. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14440	Posted - 2014.11.12 03:00:00 - [38] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: IMO a Racial Amarr Assault should have looked. 3x Imperial Armour Plates (only 3 because no Resistance platings) 1x Imperial Armour Repairer 1x Range Extender 1x Light Weapon Modifer (only because NO HEAT SINKS) 1x Side Arm Modifier 1x Precision Enhancers Honestly, I don't think this is a particularly good fit either. EWAR on a medium is lulzy in the extreme. Seriously Adamance. How can you forget cardiac regulators? They're a staple on Amarr suits that want to be dynamic. Amarr suits don't need more stamina, they have more than enough. Might have accepted a Kin Cat though. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13634	Posted - 2014.11.12 12:40:00 - [39] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Do MLT suits get skill bonuses? No, but the modules and weapons pre-fitted on them do. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND


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