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Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 4691	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:02:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati, will we see proto weapon BPOs soon or soon(TM)? Will they follow the same LP or Aurum purchasing policy? I really want an AScR proto BPO My advice to you, playa...

CCP Rattati C C P 11144	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:07:00 - [2] - Quote I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

CUSE WarLord KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:09:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. watch when i put on my BPO scout and shotgun poon some noobs you will rethink this idea.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 4691	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:12:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. Veterans have player skill working in their favor and months of LP/ISK saved up. Vet players are able to buy some of these dropsuits as we speak. They already had mountains of ISK to expend on proto, and with a proto BPO they can just add to that mountain while gutting new players It's going to be hilarious... well not for new players, but for the vets it will be. New players will either shell out $30(ish) on a proto BPO or grind for weeks (maybe months) to buy proto dropsuits that actually get destroyed when they die. Who in their right mind who choose the consumable resource over the infinite? My advice to you, playa...
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 768	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:21:00 - [5] - Quote But the consumable proto suit will always be more powerful than these BPOs. I'm sure it will be fun to have a BPO proto suit. But a veteran player will always prefer a properly fit proto (proto weapons/modules/equipment). These are just to give newbies and collectors something to play with. As they should be. The slow blade penetrates the shield.

CCP Rattati C C P 11145	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:25:00 - [6] - Quote CUSE WarLord wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. watch when i put on my BPO scout and shotgun poon some noobs you will rethink this idea. You can probably do it without an APEX suit "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 4693	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:25:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: CUSE WarLord wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. watch when i put on my BPO scout and shotgun poon some noobs you will rethink this idea. You can probably do it without an APEX suit But then when you die the dropsuit get destroyed... who wants that? I mean, what do you think this is, New Eden? My advice to you, playa...
Piercing Serenity PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 680	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:26:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. You have seen this thread (and received a ticket), I presume? TL:DR - the suits are not working as you intended, apparently Closed Beta Vet (E3 Build), Former PFBHz Best Corps Battled (Personally): Imperfects, TeamPlayers, Hellstorm
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7168	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:27:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. According to who, exactly..? Long-Term Roadmap This Player is Against Proto BPOs
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7168	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:28:00 - [10] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: CUSE WarLord wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. watch when i put on my BPO scout and shotgun poon some noobs you will rethink this idea. You can probably do it without an APEX suit But then when you die the dropsuit get destroyed... who wants that? I mean, what do you think this is, New Eden? Morgan Freeman has something to say. Long-Term Roadmap This Player is Against Proto BPOs

MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1025	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:30:00 - [11] - Quote How about more standard weapon bpos? I want everyone in the match to know I melted some ******* with my Quafe infused plasma cannon Bonus points if the particle effects for it are purple instead of green
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 252	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:30:00 - [12] - Quote The gk scout may be an exception nothing needs to be higher with the exception of maybe the cloak and the way it is now 15s and a shotgun is likely more than enough. The remote explosives should probably be replaced by a scanner or needle. The Impossible Dream and Wizard Talk
vlad stoich Fecal Abortions 245	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:30:00 - [13] - Quote CUSE WarLord wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. watch when i put on my BPO scout and shotgun poon some noobs you will rethink this idea. That is the most exciting thing about them making proto bpos. Killing real money suits with my fun fit. Plasma cannon and militia bolt pistol. Cost me about 4500 isk on a covenant bpo.
The Master Race Immortal Guides 252	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:30:00 - [14] - Quote The gk scout may be an exception nothing needs to be higher with the exception of maybe the cloak and the way it is now 15s and a shotgun is likely more than enough. The remote explosives should probably be replaced by a scanner or needle. The Impossible Dream and Wizard Talk
vlad stoich Fecal Abortions 245	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:36:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. So getting new players to spend real money on per-designated proto bpos is suppose to help them? If they are that new they are not going to be able to afford to run proto when their bpos run out, not to mention they probably don't have the core skills maxed out that would help with all the passives. Be honest, CCP saw players asking for proto bpos and they saw a way to make some more money. I have no problem with CCP making money. I have spent approx $400.
CUSE WarLord KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 90	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:57:00 - [16] - Quote vlad stoich wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. So getting new players to spend real money on per-designated proto bpos is suppose to help them? If they are that new they are not going to be able to afford to run proto when their bpos run out, not to mention they probably don't have the core skills maxed out that would help with all the passives. Be honest, CCP saw players asking for proto bpos and they saw a way to make some more money. I have no problem with CCP making money. I have spent approx $400. there BPOs run out of what? unlimited tons of shotgun fun.
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property 955	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:00:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. Exactly. These new BPOs aren't P2W for 1 reason. They con be obtained without real life money, for a decent amount of effort. 100k LP is a lot to grind, but its not impossible. 10M ISK is nothing, that can be grinded out in 1-2 days no problem if you play right. That's why they are the exception. The bug that lets you modify them makes them the most P2W thing ever though, if only for a day. Swag-suit4lyfe!
VikingKong iBUN T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 188	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:01:00 - [18] - Quote You should slap yourself for even suggesting proto BPOs.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4870	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:05:00 - [19] - Quote Hey Rattati if you guys can't fix the fitting bug take the opportunity to tiericide dropsuits! You know you want to. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3104	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:05:00 - [20] - Quote I say, release free APEX proto suits for everyone, give out free respecs and Ta-Da we have TIERICIDE. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".

vlad stoich Fecal Abortions 245	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:14:00 - [21] - Quote CUSE WarLord wrote: vlad stoich wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. So getting new players to spend real money on per-designated proto bpos is suppose to help them? If they are that new they are not going to be able to afford to run proto when their bpos run out, not to mention they probably don't have the core skills maxed out that would help with all the passives. Be honest, CCP saw players asking for proto bpos and they saw a way to make some more money. I have no problem with CCP making money. I have spent approx $400. there BPOs run out of what? unlimited tons of shotgun fun. I see. I thought they were the aurum versions like the shock troop suits. So its even bigger bullsh!t now.
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5425	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:27:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. How can this possibly help new players? I mean, unless they buy AURUM of course, which is obviously the true focus of this. Anyone that doesn't have the money to put down on one of those - which we don't even know the fits to, or if they're viable - will be stuck with something that would take them MONTHS to grind for. Seriously guys, did you sit down and hash out ideas for how to be grindier than Warframe? Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Kaeru Nayiri OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 157	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:03:00 - [23] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. Exactly. These new BPOs aren't P2W for 1 reason. They con be obtained without real life money, for a decent amount of effort. 100k LP is a lot to grind, but its not impossible. 10M ISK is nothing, that can be grinded out in 1-2 days no problem if you play right. That's why they are the exception. The bug that lets you modify them makes them the most P2W thing ever though, if only for a day. You guys realize these are HORRIBLE fits right? it's not the fact they can be obtained through LP that they are not pay to win. It's the fact that any newberry fresh out of academy can make a BASIC fit with advanced modules that is better. Everyone is missing the point here. These non-consumable items are a CONVENIENCE while giving new players a place to start or fall back to when they get low on isk. In all other respects, these things perform HORRIBLY. Who in there right mind would try to claim they are p2w? Starter Fits 2.0 at best.
Balistyc Farshot Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 0	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:38:00 - [24] - Quote Kaeru Nayiri is right! My basic scout with a proto dampner would be invisible to these suits. Shotgun to the back and run along. Veterans can't exploit this with other protos showing up for the top spots on the leader boards. I like how this helps the noobs. I have a BPO LAV and let me tell you I see the noobs look at it and beg me to let them drive it. I throw them the keys, laugh and call myself another. They need to give newer players discounts on things like the higher suits or the vehicles, which is what this is the start of. Good work promoting the noob lifestyle CCP! COD AW will start eating players come Christmas! This is them pushing for a place.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 4723	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:41:00 - [25] - Quote Balistyc Farshot wrote: I like how this helps the noobs. I have a BPO LAV and let me tell you I see the noobs look at it and beg me to let them drive it. I throw them the keys, laugh and call myself another. They need to give newer players discounts on things like the higher suits or the vehicles, which is what this is the start of. The new protosuits are not for new players. For a new player to obtain one of these things they would have to either grind like a sonofabitch for months or shell out $30 on a F2P they just downloaded... These are for veterans to have an easier time earning LP in FW. My advice to you, playa...
Nathaniel 1542 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2014.11.12 01:52:00 - [26] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: CUSE WarLord wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. watch when i put on my BPO scout and shotgun poon some noobs you will rethink this idea. You can probably do it without an APEX suit But then when you die the dropsuit get destroyed... who wants that? I mean, what do you think this is, New Eden? We need some counter measures to keep noobs from being able to do things players that have played since beta are able to do. Why can a player with 1 mill sp kill players with 60 mill sp so easy? Love to kill your tanks
Leo Look Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 78	Posted - 2014.11.12 03:03:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. I'm sorry but this is not about helping .......it's all about CCP turning this into a pay to win game and making CCP lots of money for the PC game ........this is what we stopped in EvE and it need to be stopped here as well. this and all the trying to balance a game that cant be because you have given us to much freedom to make suits. fix this game stop giving in to the players that cant kill anything and if you want balance then do that in the matchmaker base it on KDR not SP or WP that may even out the players some
DarthPlagueis TheWise 367	Posted - 2014.11.12 03:30:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. It's carefully designed to rip people off who just bought the Quafes last week. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
Balistyc Farshot Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:48:00 - [29] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Balistyc Farshot wrote: I like how this helps the noobs. I have a BPO LAV and let me tell you I see the noobs look at it and beg me to let them drive it. I throw them the keys, laugh and call myself another. They need to give newer players discounts on things like the higher suits or the vehicles, which is what this is the start of. The new protosuits are not for new players. For a new player to obtain one of these things they would have to either grind like a sonofabitch for months or shell out $30 on a F2P they just downloaded... These are for veterans to have an easier time earning LP in FW. Hence my comment about giving the new blue berries a discount on them. Lure them in and let them die without learning the lessons the hard way like the veterans. I heard someone else give a great suggestion, "Each time you kill someone who is twice your SP and you are under 10 mil SP you get double the ISK/LP or SP." We need to think of how to help the new players get in here because I remember my first proto stomping. With the decreased player base since the Legion announcement that has gotten worse in a sense. Far less forgiving situations and more guys going 26 and 2.
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 66	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:53:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: CUSE WarLord wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. watch when i put on my BPO scout and shotgun poon some noobs you will rethink this idea. You can probably do it without an APEX suit You can do it with any standard scout and shotgun cause it the easiest most op role dust ever had Yet another slave of Mortedeamor

Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 67	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:56:00 - [31] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. Veterans have player skill working in their favor and months of LP/ISK saved up. Vet players are able to buy some of these dropsuits as we speak. They already had mountains of ISK to expend on proto, and with a proto BPO they can just add to that mountain while gutting new players It's going to be hilarious... well not for new players, but for the vets it will be. New players will either shell out $30(ish) on a proto BPO or grind for weeks (maybe months) to buy proto dropsuits that actually get destroyed when they die. Who in their right mind who choose the consumable resource over the infinite? That's ok. I'm just waiting to buy this company out and liquidate all its assets when it utterly fails and has to shut down. At the rate they're going and with their record it will happen. It is only a matter of when. EVE isn't even sustainable in the long run unless CCP is willing to turn it into the equivilent of Plants vs. Zombies to keep a player base and steady revenue. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4974	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:03:00 - [32] - Quote DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. It's carefully designed to rip people off who just bought the Quafes last week. Confirming I feel ripped off. Ripping the asses off the APEX suits in my (much cheaper) Quafe suits has felt less satisfying because I haven't spent enough money on them to feel good. Clearly spending the 27 (Apex) instead of ten (quafe) means I am getting an inferior product. I shall henceforth protest by killing every APEX suit I come across with my gaudy and shiny quafe suits until this atrocity ends. Because reasons have been given. And Ripped offness is there. Because proto suits with the same killing power as myself is completely unacceptable. Why, I actually SPEND 1500 ISK a pop to keep my Pink HMG sentinels spamming bullets and yet your APEX does this free? How dare they. And God only knows that my Ishukone Assault Forge gun i mounted upon my calquafe feels less manly now that i have faced the tanks and ADS with my Shogun sentinel and it's singularly mighty State Forge Gun. And those amarr APEX... How dare they flaunt their french tickle... I mean powerful Standard Scrambler Rifles??? Yes my friends we have achieved Pay to Win. These non-optimized dropsuits are clearly a threat to all of us, and our way of life. Band with me and protest. We shall use harsh language until CCP apologizes for making dropsuits that offer a net gain of zero over what we have been offered before, customization be damned. Who shall join this holy QQ crusade? Sound off! EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1850	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:05:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. tbh rattati what newbro will want to spend painstaking hours in FW to get an overpriced peice of tat.. the matari one sucks.. the caldari ones suck and so on. new players would more often be in pub contracts where they can get isk and kills and no qsyncs. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4975	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:13:00 - [34] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: pub contracts... kills and no qsyncs. Za'ki do I need to even make the comment here, or do you want to rethink your phrasing? EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5263	Posted - 2014.11.13 23:23:00 - [35] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati, will we see proto weapon BPOs soon or soon(TM)? Will they follow the same LP or Aurum purchasing policy? I really want an AScR proto BPO To be quite honest, I think the game and the forums would be much better off without all the dudes that wanted things to stay the way they were. These things they are doing may not appeal to everyone, but they appeal to the majority. Those are the types of distinctions that make all the difference when you are talking about success vs. failure. CCP is making money off of Dust. They are providing things that people want and that's a good thing. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8418	Posted - 2014.11.13 23:24:00 - [36] - Quote Nothing is True, Everything is permitted. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5263	Posted - 2014.11.13 23:26:00 - [37] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. tbh rattati what newbro will want to spend painstaking hours in FW to get an overpriced peice of tat.. the matari one sucks.. the caldari ones suck and so on. new players would more often be in pub contracts where they can get isk and kills and no qsyncs. In my opinion new players that are qsyncing in a learning corp are probably much better off than running solo in pubs. If they are qsyncing with a group of veterans they'll die less, learn more, and be able to obtain the FW items that will help them obtain better gear. I hope Dust is never a game that all aspects of the game have to be brought down to the lowest denominator. There should be some things that take a little bit of effort. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Piercing Serenity PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 689	Posted - 2014.11.13 23:49:00 - [38] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I don't agree that "nothing" is sacred. This is carefully designed to help new players more than veterans. And no, no proto BPO's unless pre-designed so they are not op. tbh rattati what newbro will want to spend painstaking hours in FW to get an overpriced peice of tat.. the matari one sucks.. the caldari ones suck and so on. new players would more often be in pub contracts where they can get isk and kills and no qsyncs. In my opinion new players that are qsyncing in a learning corp are probably much better off than running solo in pubs. If they are qsyncing with a group of veterans they'll die less, learn more, and be able to obtain the FW items that will help them obtain better gear. I hope Dust is never a game that all aspects of the game have to be brought down to the lowest denominator. There should be some things that take a little bit of effort. Agreed. Closed Beta Vet (E3 Build), Former PFBHz Best Corps Battled (Personally): Imperfects, TeamPlayers, Hellstorm


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