DUST Search - [Request]Tactical AR: Why so little ammo?

Bradric Banewolf wrote:

Zindorak wrote:

We need more ammo this thing is useless with such little ammo per clip

They don't actually use it which is a testament to the fact that it is indeed trash, or atleast left to the hard core of us to use. You don't see Caldari grabbing it over any rail rifle do you? Minmatar aren't picking it up either. However, gallente are picking up every rifle in sight just to be effective?!

The Creadron breach actually gets the job done, but is after all a true CQC weapon. The long range variant suffers from traditional gallente weaponry hit detection issues, and low magizine capacity. In other words, or in a language slayers understand, it's not a fight finisher is it? When's the last time you've come up against a group of proto stompers rocking Duvolle tactical assault rifles?

At proto it can kill sure, but the advanced variant (GLU-5) suffers in the "effective rifle" category. RS-90's, SB-39's, and now the GB-9 are fiercely prevelent on the battlefield because they work! When a merc gets downed by a GK-13 or GLU-5 they go "what the ****?!!!".

The stats scream "use it", but in battle you're done before the weapon can perform against the rail and combat rifles?!

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Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 442	Posted - 2014.11.10 21:33:00 - [1] - Quote In comparison to the scrambler it is severely lacking in the magi zine capacity department?! Wanted to know what the community and CCP thought about this? "Anybody order chaos?"
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 2497	Posted - 2014.11.10 22:02:00 - [2] - Quote It doesn't overheat. You can fire about as many rounds before overheat with the ScR as with the TAC AR. Except you can switch weapons when you're out of ammo, whereas you're screwed if you overheat. Best PvE idea ever!
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property 935	Posted - 2014.11.10 22:46:00 - [3] - Quote Because a TacAR with a 45 round Mag would be as OP as A ScR that doesn't overheat. Swag-suit4lyfe!
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13596	Posted - 2014.11.11 00:06:00 - [4] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Because a TacAR with a 45 round Mag would be as OP as A ScR that doesn't overheat. That's probably because it would be a SCR that doesn't overheat. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
manboar thunder fist xTHExKKKx 237	Posted - 2014.11.11 00:07:00 - [5] - Quote It would also be more effective since dual tanking and armour tanking are more prevalent than shield tanking, so heavies would suffer. NERF SCOUTS, NERF TANKS, NERF AV, NERF ASSAULTS, NERF LOGIS, NERF HEAVIES nerf life Delta- bye bye ads, bye bye scr
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4495	Posted - 2014.11.11 00:08:00 - [6] - Quote As noted, would be OP. It used to have a larger clip; that did not go well. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property 942	Posted - 2014.11.11 00:08:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Because a TacAR with a 45 round Mag would be as OP as A ScR that doesn't overheat. That's probably because it would be a SCR that doesn't overheat. OP didn't seem very bright. I wanted to put it in a way he would understand. Swag-suit4lyfe!
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 442	Posted - 2014.11.11 00:14:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Atiim wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Because a TacAR with a 45 round Mag would be as OP as A ScR that doesn't overheat. That's probably because it would be a SCR that doesn't overheat. OP didn't seem very bright. I wanted to put it in a way he would understand. Didn't say it needed 45 rounds?! Definitely needs more rounds imo though. With the kick and shotty hit detection I don't think it would make that much of a difference. "Anybody order chaos?"
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8347	Posted - 2014.11.11 00:21:00 - [9] - Quote It does not need any kind of ammo increase CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14396	Posted - 2014.11.11 00:22:00 - [10] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: It does not need any kind of ammo increase Big Daddy Freedom hath spoken! "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon

Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 344	Posted - 2014.11.11 00:39:00 - [11] - Quote As another poster noted -- it used to have more rounds -- that did not go well at all...
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 442	Posted - 2014.11.11 01:03:00 - [12] - Quote When it had more rounds it also lacked competition in the rifle department.... or did we all forget that part? If I recall it was one of a class of the same, and only, rifle?! "Anybody order chaos?"
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 344	Posted - 2014.11.11 01:46:00 - [13] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: When it had more rounds it also lacked competition in the rifle department.... or did we all forget that part? If I recall it was one of a class of the same, and only, rifle?! It had competition. The scrambler existed back then (before it had had ANY nerfs and was in its most powerful incarnation). And the TAR, even after a nerf, wrecked it and every other gun like a bear on salmon. Like Charlie Murphy on Rick James. Like crying scrubs on nerf threads. I'm not saying giving it a few more rounds in the clip would break it -- but you gotta be careful about what you ask for cause that gun was super sick back before they cut the clip.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1269	Posted - 2014.11.11 01:52:00 - [14] - Quote We need more ammo this thing is useless with such little ammo per clip Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 442	Posted - 2014.11.11 04:24:00 - [15] - Quote Zindorak wrote: We need more ammo this thing is useless with such little ammo per clip They don't actually use it which is a testament to the fact that it is indeed trash, or atleast left to the hard core of us to use. You don't see Caldari grabbing it over any rail rifle do you? Minmatar aren't picking it up either. However, gallente are picking up every rifle in sight just to be effective?! The Creadron breach actually gets the job done, but is after all a true CQC weapon. The long range variant suffers from traditional gallente weaponry hit detection issues, and low magizine capacity. In other words, or in a language slayers understand, it's not a fight finisher is it? When's the last time you've come up against a group of proto stompers rocking Duvolle tactical assault rifles? At proto it can kill sure, but the advanced variant (GLU-5) suffers in the "effective rifle" category. RS-90's, SB-39's, and now the GB-9 are fiercely prevelent on the battlefield because they work! When a merc gets downed by a GK-13 or GLU-5 they go "what the ****?!!!". The stats scream "use it", but in battle you're done before the weapon can perform against the rail and combat rifles?! "Anybody order chaos?"
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5890	Posted - 2014.11.11 04:34:00 - [16] - Quote All the AR's run out of ammo fast. It's one of the balancing features of the AR. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
VikingKong iBUN T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 189	Posted - 2014.11.11 16:31:00 - [17] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Zindorak wrote: We need more ammo this thing is useless with such little ammo per clip They don't actually use it which is a testament to the fact that it is indeed trash, or atleast left to the hard core of us to use. You don't see Caldari grabbing it over any rail rifle do you? Minmatar aren't picking it up either. However, gallente are picking up every rifle in sight just to be effective?! The Creadron breach actually gets the job done, but is after all a true CQC weapon. The long range variant suffers from traditional gallente weaponry hit detection issues, and low magizine capacity. In other words, or in a language slayers understand, it's not a fight finisher is it? When's the last time you've come up against a group of proto stompers rocking Duvolle tactical assault rifles? At proto it can kill sure, but the advanced variant (GLU-5) suffers in the "effective rifle" category. RS-90's, SB-39's, and now the GB-9 are fiercely prevelent on the battlefield because they work! When a merc gets downed by a GK-13 or GLU-5 they go "what the **?!!!". The stats scream "use it", but in battle you're done before the weapon can perform against the rail and combat rifles?! This. I tried it, and I liked it. But it started to ** me off because of the insanely low clip size, so I stopped using it. 18 is truly pathetic, and it's the only reason why nobody ever uses a TAR. If it was really high, like 40, yes it would be OP. But currently it is so low that because of the crappy hit detection you almost never kill someone with just the one clip, you have to use your sidearm or reload. Usually to kill someone with a TAR in one clip the guy has to stand perfectly still and take the shots, or you have to have superhuman accuracy. Or he was already wounded.


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