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Niuvo
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
1032
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Posted - 2014.11.23 15:54:00 -
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KDR shouldn't matter really. |
Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
694
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Posted - 2014.11.23 16:09:00 -
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Just make sure you never, ever run solo.
Only run with squads with at least two other people of decent quality, and never squad with randoms from the squad finder - they're just terribad.
To put this into context, last week I was pretty much always in a squad, and there were plenty of squads available. By the end of the week, I was sitting on a 3.52 K/D and around a 7.00 W/L. This week however, squads were slim pickings, and at times, I had to go solo. Combine this with me fooling around with the Gallente Scout, and my current weekly K/D is around 2.40, my W/L around 4.00.
Teamwork is the key.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
694
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Posted - 2014.11.23 16:11:00 -
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Wait, are you talking about your lifetime, monthly, or weekly K/D?
Monthly is best to go by; lifetime is difficult to change and weekly can vary too much.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
694
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Posted - 2014.11.23 16:25:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Zindorak wrote:Im looking to migrate from this corp to another one due to some issues goin around, and so to open up some more oprion i need my KDR to go up. My KDR right now is 1.25 so i need to get that up to join things like Vengeance Unbound and Molon. So what's an easy way to get KDR up? If corps require a 2.0 KDR you shouldn't even want to join them. oops
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
521
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Posted - 2014.11.23 17:10:00 -
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And of course, there's really no available pub squads whenever I log on. I'm forced to head into FW squads, and I'll be lucky if they run a few pub breathers (usually Ambush).
Give the Magsex some love.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2279
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Posted - 2014.11.23 17:39:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:If I made it into Molon, anyone can make it into Molon.
I'm that bad.
We have no KDR requirement in order to join ML.
We do have requirements for PC, but not the corp proper.
The best way to increase your KDR is to play with a squad and stay close to them. The increase in firepower and awareness that comes with it usually yields a healthy boost to KDR and W:L. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
618
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Posted - 2014.11.24 00:45:00 -
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Might I ask why you want to join another corp? With a 1.25 KD/R no offense, but I doubt many PC groups will be picking you up whether you pad or not. I mean this coming from someone who doesn't PC so I really don't mean to offend I'm just saying you don't seem near enough try hardy for that, if so, you wouldn't need to ask how to not die.
If you just want groups to play with you know you can mingle with players in other corps and join their chat channels if they get along with you, right? Then you can squad up with them when they are going RFx or you can say LFG and there you go. Not only do you have squads to play with but you also aren't siphoning isk to the top corp members who will be spending it on beer and hookers. If the corp has a 0.0% tax rate though then I could understand wanting to hook up for an extra LFG channel but anything above 0.0% and you might as well just hitch up to squads in chat channels. |
Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1336
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Posted - 2014.11.24 01:06:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Might I ask why you want to join another corp? With a 1.25 KD/R no offense, but I doubt many PC groups will be picking you up whether you pad or not. I mean this coming from someone who doesn't PC so I really don't mean to offend I'm just saying you don't seem near enough try hardy for that, if so, you wouldn't need to ask how to not die.
If you just want groups to play with you know you can mingle with players in other corps and join their chat channels if they get along with you, right? Then you can squad up with them when they are going RFx or you can say LFG and there you go. Not only do you have squads to play with but you also aren't siphoning isk to the top corp members who will be spending it on beer and hookers. If the corp has a 0.0% tax rate though then I could understand wanting to hook up for an extra LFG channel but anything above 0.0% and you might as well just hitch up to squads in chat channels. I know it's bad im trying to get it up so i can move to a better corp
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
618
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Posted - 2014.11.24 01:21:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Might I ask why you want to join another corp? With a 1.25 KD/R no offense, but I doubt many PC groups will be picking you up whether you pad or not. I mean this coming from someone who doesn't PC so I really don't mean to offend I'm just saying you don't seem near enough try hardy for that, if so, you wouldn't need to ask how to not die.
If you just want groups to play with you know you can mingle with players in other corps and join their chat channels if they get along with you, right? Then you can squad up with them when they are going RFx or you can say LFG and there you go. Not only do you have squads to play with but you also aren't siphoning isk to the top corp members who will be spending it on beer and hookers. If the corp has a 0.0% tax rate though then I could understand wanting to hook up for an extra LFG channel but anything above 0.0% and you might as well just hitch up to squads in chat channels. I know it's bad im trying to get it up so i can move to a better corp
I guess if that's what you want more power to you, but if you are trying to work towards PC you will need to do more than pad your KD/R. You probably should play on SD so you can have faster load times and less graphic lag or 480i instead of 720p if you are using a HDMI cable. Also might want to look into either acquiring a KB/M for better precision aiming and easier twitch strafing or in the least get one of those like 20 dollar turbo controllers for less kick and/or more shots per heat build up. If you want to be the best you gotta use every advantage you can. Besides this, for padding hide in groups of blues or squad up and proactively avoid games you know you won't win. You may even need to abort bad battles. All else fails get good with a sniper rifle (Which should become easier if you get a KB/M) and just hide in your red line, that's the slow but sure way to pad your KD/R. Also, make sure you either skill into everything or repeatedly buy respecs if you want to remain competitive for when things you like to use get the nerf hammer. Current Flavor of PC from what I've heard is Scout, Heavy, and Logi so if you aren't skilled into those I'd consider respeccing to them based on what the group you want to PC for is looking for.
Personally, I think all of the above mentioned things are why I don't care for PC, but if its what you want you gotta "Git Gud" so to speak.
And if you aren't PCing it doesn't matter what corp you are in as squadding isn't limited to corp mates only. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2502
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Posted - 2014.11.24 01:34:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Im looking to migrate from this corp to another one due to some issues goin around, and so to open up some more oprion i need my KDR to go up. My KDR right now is 1.25 so i need to get that up to join things like Vengeance Unbound and Molon. So what's an easy way to get KDR up?
if your running logistics and a true logi full time.. The KDR isn't that bad. You should make that point and go off Warpoint/death stat and make your point there..
Otherwise it's best to run with a full squad of payers you consider good. Matches become more of a turkey shoot then a challenge however.
If your looking for internal improvement possibilities... It seems more situational awareness is the issue. Knowing where and when to be in a position and when tot ake advantage of a situation... How to be in locations in an advantageous spot before the enemy gets there etc.. Best way to learn this is by watchig you-tubers gameplay videos and analyzing them, What could of been done better? Where was the enemy? What could have been done to change the outcome? Then going into matches and putting it into practice. If you have a capture card? record your gameplay and rewatch it with extreme criticism and look inwards to improve upon your performance.
The rest is learning how to aim and be patient when firing your weapon, this takes practice and clear motivation and active decision while playing to work and improve on your aim. |
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1336
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Posted - 2014.11.24 03:22:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Zindorak wrote:Im looking to migrate from this corp to another one due to some issues goin around, and so to open up some more oprion i need my KDR to go up. My KDR right now is 1.25 so i need to get that up to join things like Vengeance Unbound and Molon. So what's an easy way to get KDR up? if your running logistics and a true logi full time.. The KDR isn't that bad. You should make that point and go off Warpoint/death stat and make your point there.. Otherwise it's best to run with a full squad of payers you consider good. Matches become more of a turkey shoot then a challenge however. If your looking for internal improvement possibilities... It seems more situational awareness is the issue. Knowing where and when to be in a position and when tot ake advantage of a situation... How to be in locations in an advantageous spot before the enemy gets there etc.. Best way to learn this is by watchig you-tubers gameplay videos and analyzing them, What could of been done better? Where was the enemy? What could have been done to change the outcome? Then going into matches and putting it into practice. If you have a capture card? record your gameplay and rewatch it with extreme criticism and look inwards to improve upon your performance. The rest is learning how to aim and be patient when firing your weapon, this takes practice and clear motivation and active decision while playing to work and improve on your aim. I run scout and CR/SG mostly.
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2136
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Posted - 2014.11.24 05:00:00 -
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This may seem a bit downspeaking but...
Skill into core skills. They make even my Standard assault suit deadly effective.
Skill into Shield/Armor Skills. There are no skills that increase your eDPS, so you need to then increase your eHP.
Learn how your race's suits are best fitted, and how you can bend that around you. Gallente Suits would likely do well with Pure armor and Damage mods in the highs, as opposed to a blend of Shield and Armor. Amarr Suits are built for Dual Tanking, or for fitting a lighter tank for greater gank, making longer range engagements better in a fit like that. Etc, etc.
Learn how your role is usually fitted for success. Assaults with Damps, Scouts with regular plates, and Heavies w/ kincats are not how they are fitted for success. Don't be fooled, there is always a best fit, regardless of that whole "Infinite Opportunities" the ads want you to believe. Assaults, Commandos, and Sentinels do best full tank fitted, w/ Damage mods in highs depending on the race/fit. I can't speak for logi's or scouts, but I'm sure a logi w/ no equipment, or a scout w/o a cloak isn't going to be as good as otherwise.
Learn the best weapon for your playstyle. Simple really, find the gun you're most effective/comfortable with using as you're primary and fit that to max. Be it a Shotgun, or a Rail Rifle or a Plasma Cannon, Find the weapon that fits your playstyle, and max it out. I personally would suggest that you start w/ a generalist gun (Rail, Combat, Scrambler, Assault Rifle; MagSec; SMG) and then branching into more niche guns (Sniper; Shotgun; Plasma Cannon; Swarm Launcher; Nova Knifes), but if your heart set on playing pure scout on this character, then play pure scout. Skill into your Shottys and NK's right off.
Learn to Aim. DUST has some really ******* weird aiming mechanics, so learn how to use them well. Its gonna be a while before you can use them well enough to be a big effect on the leaderboards.
Learn to play your role. Some roles may be straightforward (Assault), but some require at least some degree of thought (True Sentinel), and some require a great deal of planning (Logibros).
Learn to squad. If you have any friends playing DUST, get them to squad with you. You are so much better in a squad w/ voice coms then as a bunch of scrambled blueberries, not talking to each other.
Learn to corp. Corps are the easiest place to squad up if you don't have friends on DUST. They usually take a bit of your cash at the end of the match though, so be warned.
Learn to stop. This is the most important facet to learning how to play DUST. Learning when to stop and pop in a different game. You WILL get burned out eventually if you play DUST, and only DUST. You Will. Diversify, enjoy other games. DUST doesn't have to be the only thing you play, and nor should it. Many a time, after a rough match, I just popped in Just Cause 2, and had fun.
Of course, you're already in a nice corp, and so don't need me telling you this. Quite QQing and get good. Don't make me take that PRO Crutch and beat you with it. It deals 300 damage a hit. You don't want that, now do you?
I Live for Tears
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
397
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:54:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:KDR shouldn't matter really. I play to win and have fun , KD be damned. If I getting killed I try a cheap suit and play with different play styles
The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2321
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:41:00 -
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Here's some simple advice, going against some of those (including myself) that say your best served by squadding up...
Get a proto scout -- doesn't matter which one, but Gal or Cal are probably easiest. You're getting proto suit for the skills.
Fit out an advanced suit with a cloak and a range amp or two. If you start to get scanned, drop on a few dampeners (run a proto suit if that is what it takes).....and do this:
Pick your battles against medium suits, then decide when to engage by using your EWAR/passive scanning skills. Don't get overly aggressive by trying to bite off more than you can chew -- try and stay moving to evade scouts and don't mess with heavies except in the perfect situation (i.e. they are out in the open and you outrange them). Stick to picking off the solitary medium suits (i.e. noobs, generally, but beware 1000+hp amarr assaults) and engage them when they are looking another direction with a high-alpha weapon, preferably, but just about any weapon will do.
This is an easy way that doesn't require a mic or teamwork.
It's also maddening to medium suits because there's not much they can do. |
Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
436
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:30:00 -
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It's sad that GAM has degraded so far to even the newbies plotting to leave.
It truly is a failure, mostly because of me
oh whale
Only loyal to the republic.
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
398
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:38:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Actual Advice:
Play carefully. Very carefully.
Never leave good cover without a very good reason.
Why are you travelling alone? Stick with the group.
Sticking with the group? Good, but don't give someone a multikill. Spread out a bit.
See blue dots disappearing from your tacnet? See a shotgun in the killfeed? Put two and two together and BE READY.
Pick your battles. Sometimes disengaging and falling back is better than trying to take one down with you.
NEVER stand still. Not while shooting (Sniping excluded), not while hacking, now while waiting, NOTHING. Strafe while shooting, make random movements while running to objectives, never run in a straight line. People are trying to kill you, your job is to make that as hard as possible for them.
Lost all spawn points except for a CRU or a lone uplink? Wait a bit. Let someone else spawn in. If they spawn, and then immediately get killed, spawn elsewhere.
NEVER leave cover without a very good reason.
Think of what can go wrong before you do it. Did you make it to the point early and see that nobody is there? Free point right? NO. Someone else could easily have gotten there and be waiting for you to hack. Use your head, and walk up and hack for 1 bar and back off. If nobody comes screaming in, it's PROBABLY safe to hack.
I could go on and on.
Long story made short: Play Carefully, and let every decision you make be a CONSCIOUS one. THIS is what separates the wheat from the chaff.
Eventually, all these things become second nature. People wonder how you got so good. How you react so fast. It's practice.
You have done them all consciously for so long, they become unconscious. You circle strafe and add in random movements while shooting. You know when to push away from cover and when not to. You start to notice patterns and predictability on a moments notice, and people will wonder how you pull things off.
This is what makes you a vet. Not proto gear. Not tons of ISK or modded controllers.
It's playing smart for a very long time. Long enough for you to play like that without thinking. Then you start using that brain for more important things, such as advanced strategy and map control.
EDIT: THIS IS NOT EASY AT ALL This guy ^ has it right.
The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
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dreth longbow
Bank of DUST 514
63
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:59:00 -
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Commander Noctus wrote:Zindorak wrote:Im looking to migrate from this corp to another one due to some issues goin around, and so to open up some more oprion i need my KDR to go up. My KDR right now is 1.25 so i need to get that up to join things like Vengeance Unbound and Molon. So what's an easy way to get KDR up? If you pay me 500k per kill, I'll be willing to be your punching bag for a few thousand deaths. Or however much ISK you have, whichever comes first.
lol really? get a job, oh its a game. |
Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
997
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:00:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:Promise me that you will never die. Since we're all immortal anyways, I think he's got that one covered.
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior")
Learning Coalition & RTG
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Michael Epic
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
333
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:02:00 -
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I have no idea honestly....I've always sought it my goal to keep my KDR around 1.00.
I figure as long as I'm killing you guys as often as you're killing me...then that's fair. That's worked for me for 18,000 kills/deaths or so, which isn't much but I don't play this game as often as I used too.
I like to put myself in harms way though lol that's my play style....I'm like a suicide bomber in a dropsuit ;)
Quote:Ghost Kaisar: ......or modded controllers.
I don't think those really exist, do they? They're all setup for Battlefield 3 and COD and stuff...no clue how they'd work on Dust 514. Perhaps you know something I don't?
That's the be all end all of scrubbiness imho, modded controllers....ugh, nerds & nerdrage seeking pixeled validation |
Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
997
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:02:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Bethhy wrote:Zindorak wrote:Im looking to migrate from this corp to another one due to some issues goin around, and so to open up some more oprion i need my KDR to go up. My KDR right now is 1.25 so i need to get that up to join things like Vengeance Unbound and Molon. So what's an easy way to get KDR up? if your running logistics and a true logi full time.. The KDR isn't that bad. You should make that point and go off Warpoint/death stat and make your point there.. Otherwise it's best to run with a full squad of payers you consider good. Matches become more of a turkey shoot then a challenge however. If your looking for internal improvement possibilities... It seems more situational awareness is the issue. Knowing where and when to be in a position and when tot ake advantage of a situation... How to be in locations in an advantageous spot before the enemy gets there etc.. Best way to learn this is by watchig you-tubers gameplay videos and analyzing them, What could of been done better? Where was the enemy? What could have been done to change the outcome? Then going into matches and putting it into practice. If you have a capture card? record your gameplay and rewatch it with extreme criticism and look inwards to improve upon your performance. The rest is learning how to aim and be patient when firing your weapon, this takes practice and clear motivation and active decision while playing to work and improve on your aim. I run scout and CR/SG mostly. Wait wut? I thought you ran Amarr Assault with a Laser Rifle?
Way to break all my hopes and dreams Zin...
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior")
Learning Coalition & RTG
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1347
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:09:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Zindorak wrote:Bethhy wrote:Zindorak wrote:Im looking to migrate from this corp to another one due to some issues goin around, and so to open up some more oprion i need my KDR to go up. My KDR right now is 1.25 so i need to get that up to join things like Vengeance Unbound and Molon. So what's an easy way to get KDR up? if your running logistics and a true logi full time.. The KDR isn't that bad. You should make that point and go off Warpoint/death stat and make your point there.. Otherwise it's best to run with a full squad of payers you consider good. Matches become more of a turkey shoot then a challenge however. If your looking for internal improvement possibilities... It seems more situational awareness is the issue. Knowing where and when to be in a position and when tot ake advantage of a situation... How to be in locations in an advantageous spot before the enemy gets there etc.. Best way to learn this is by watchig you-tubers gameplay videos and analyzing them, What could of been done better? Where was the enemy? What could have been done to change the outcome? Then going into matches and putting it into practice. If you have a capture card? record your gameplay and rewatch it with extreme criticism and look inwards to improve upon your performance. The rest is learning how to aim and be patient when firing your weapon, this takes practice and clear motivation and active decision while playing to work and improve on your aim. I run scout and CR/SG mostly. Wait wut? I thought you ran Amarr Assault with a Laser Rifle? Way to break all my hopes and dreams Zin... Im use a bunch of stuff LR with Amarr Assault, Amarr Logi even Amarr Sentinel
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Operative 1174 Uuali
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
129
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Posted - 2014.11.26 03:06:00 -
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You sir are on your way to becoming a kdr padding scrub. Go join any japanese corp (Nyain San) and reduce this game down to its raw mechanics, exploit that then prepare to be bored out of your ever living skull.
Or, forget that epeening crap and enjoy the game with some flavor.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
521
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Posted - 2014.11.26 06:28:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:Join The Cooked Goose Coalition, we(well by 'we' I mean just me, literally just me) don't discriminate by K/DR.
"Honk Honk Sizzle Yum. Join The Cooked Goose Coalition and you will... uh... won!"
Yeah, I need to stop coming up with cheers...
You're probably better off not joining us(me). Have your 1000th like...my treat. When you hit 1001 I will unlike your post because your cheer is that bad.
AKA - StarVenger
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Union118
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.11.26 06:34:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Im looking to migrate from this corp to another one due to some issues goin around, and so to open up some more oprion i need my KDR to go up. My KDR right now is 1.25 so i need to get that up to join things like Vengeance Unbound and Molon. So what's an easy way to get KDR up?
Start sniping. Its key to cqc setting and you should be able to keep up close to them. So at that point you work ok thinking a step ahead.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Guiltless D667
86
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Posted - 2014.11.26 07:07:00 -
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You mean stat pad right? drop down some money, get protogear, play with protogear players that know what they're doing in a group and kill all other peasants in milita gear.
you win da KDR!
A Strange Game.
Crysis 514
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