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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5827
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Posted - 2014.11.09 21:47:00 -
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So. about 3 or 4 days ago i wrote this: why people who are not scouts can't see we are already nerfed.
What happened is i got some heat by people saying scouts are OP. And they are broken , and what now... Some dude even told me i would never know how OP they are until i play like a med frame vs scouts...
So i went ahead, bought a respec, got all my scout stuff even my Ck.0 and Ak.0 to proto. And after everything was done i went ahead and bought 2 ASSAULT suits.
The ones i decided to use were Gk.0 and Mk.0 , because they both use CQ-MED weapons (AR+CR) that i got used to while playing as a scout.
Im not playing scout again for a long time.
(exact number will be updated when im at home {im at work ATM})
Gk.0 300+ Shields 500+ Armor 30+ Armor rep per sec 20 shield regen per sec 1 cx Damage mod AR or BAR or TAC (all are great with this suit) Sprt speed 7.35 Mvoement (i think it is) 5
Mk.0 450+ Shields 450 + Armor 20 armor rep per sec 40 Shield regen per sec 7.7 Sprt speed 5.2 Movement speed 85 bullet Six Kin ACR and 90 Bullet Breach SMG.
Ok ,so now for you to understand. THESE GUYS Have a LOT of HP, while moving VERY fast for their EHP values, have a bonus that helps their racial weapon ( a lot, at least in these 2 cases) , etc... They are basically made for killing. I can shistand even SG to the back, i can stand infront of a Sentinel and win , i cannot get 1HKOd by snipers. Im not afraid of scouts because if i see them they will die, regardless of their fit. Yeah even Ck.0 scouts drop like flies vs my Gk.0 AR's..
So overall, the only thing i will admit Med frame whiners have correct is: The Ck.0 Scout hitbox is defective. 85 Shots out of my ACR and i only too down 50 Shields? BROOOKEEEENNN... but besides this i really dont see what all the fuzz is about./
Want to play good as an assault? just do the opposite as a scout:
- SCOUT: Flank enemy groups/Stalk slow units. -ASSAULT: Stick together with your blue dots / Position yourself to abuse the range of your weapons.
Even as a solo player, if i stick to 1 or 2 other blue dots, the power of my suit multiplies. Its the CONTRARY to scout suits, that i prefer being alone so that enemies wont come MY way because tehy are seeing a friendly blue on their tac net.
MEd frames are not UP.
Nerf hammer + Community QQers = are OP.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7531
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Posted - 2014.11.09 21:56:00 -
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I picked up my Min Assault and Min Commando with the respec.
I love my scout for solo work, but you will see me in that Min Assault 90% of the the time in Pubs.
As you said, stick with the blues, abuse range and destroy people.
The only problem with slayers not switching to the scout is the fact that it is easier to run. You see, running an assault requires gun game and good positioning/strafe
Most people don't have this.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14336
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:02:00 -
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I don't move very fast at all........ this poor Amarr dreams of speed.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
337
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:15:00 -
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That doesn't mean when scouts run together they can't overwhelm you with sheer speed and ganking power.
Sorry but I'm not convinced. Keep huddling close by your slow HP stacking buddies while the scouts circle around you like birds of prey.
There's a reason I chose Scout over Assault. It's simple. Kill the enemy so fast they don't know what hit them.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1757
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:21:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:So. about 3 or 4 days ago i wrote this: why people who are not scouts can't see we are already nerfed.What happened is i got some heat by people saying scouts are OP. And they are broken , and what now... Some dude even told me i would never know how OP they are until i play like a med frame vs scouts... So i went ahead, bought a respec, got all my scout stuff even my Ck.0 and Ak.0 to proto. And after everything was done i went ahead and bought 2 ASSAULT suits. The ones i decided to use were Gk.0 and Mk.0 , because they both use CQ-MED weapons (AR+CR) that i got used to while playing as a scout. Im not playing scout again for a long time.(exact number will be updated when im at home {im at work ATM}) Gk.0 300+ Shields 500+ Armor 30+ Armor rep per sec 20 shield regen per sec 1 cx Damage mod AR or BAR or TAC (all are great with this suit) Sprt speed 7.35 Mvoement (i think it is) 5 Mk.0 450+ Shields 450 + Armor 20 armor rep per sec 40 Shield regen per sec 7.7 Sprt speed 5.2 Movement speed 85 bullet Six Kin ACR and 90 Bullet Breach SMG. Ok ,so now for you to understand. THESE GUYS Have a LOT of HP, while moving VERY fast for their EHP values, have a bonus that helps their racial weapon ( a lot, at least in these 2 cases) , etc... They are basically made for killing. I can shistand even SG to the back, i can stand infront of a Sentinel and win , i cannot get 1HKOd by snipers. Im not afraid of scouts because if i see them they will die, regardless of their fit. Yeah even Ck.0 scouts drop like flies vs my Gk.0 AR's.. So overall, the only thing i will admit Med frame whiners have correct is: The Ck.0 Scout hitbox is defective. 85 Shots out of my ACR and i only too down 50 Shields? BROOOKEEEENNN... but besides this i really dont see what all the fuzz is about./ Want to play good as an assault? just do the opposite as a scout: - SCOUT: Flank enemy groups/Stalk slow units. -ASSAULT: Stick together with your blue dots / Position yourself to abuse the range of your weapons. Even as a solo player, if i stick to 1 or 2 other blue dots, the power of my suit multiplies. Its the CONTRARY to scout suits, that i prefer being alone so that enemies wont come MY way because tehy are seeing a friendly blue on their tac net. MEd frames are not UP. Nerf hammer + Community QQers = are OP. your also forgetting the OP aspect of the Ewar and 2 equip slots and cloak coupled with what you said.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1757
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I don't move very fast at all........ this poor Amarr dreams of speed. you moved fast, for an amarr logi in that one game i saw you in :P
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7536
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I don't move very fast at all........ this poor Amarr dreams of speed.
Dude, try running 5x Reactive plates.
Barely slows you down at all and you get over 700 armor and 17hp/s armor regen
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
5003
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:25:00 -
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You are not dampened at all in those fittings. Try running a dampener and watch how much more effective you become.
Also I want to know how you have 450 armor and 20 armor regen with 7.7 sprint...? Two ferroscales does not give you that much armor, and you take up two low slots by giving yourself 20 regen so I'm very confused.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18909
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:30:00 -
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How are you getting those numbers? Do you have officer modules?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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IRON PATRIOT 1
General Tso's Alliance
155
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:31:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:You are not dampened at all in those fittings. Try running a dampener and watch how much more effective you become.
Also I want to know how you have 450 armor and 20 armor regen with 7.7 sprint...? Two ferroscales does not give you that much armor, and you take up two low slots by giving yourself 20 regen so I'm very confused.
Same thing I was wondering, also that 85 round clip six kin. |
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
755
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:38:00 -
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People just don't know how to use the different suits. They want to play the same way regardless of what their wearing. Use the right tool for the job, and learn to use that tool.
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Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
196
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:46:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:So. about 3 or 4 days ago i wrote this: why people who are not scouts can't see we are already nerfed.What happened is i got some heat by people saying scouts are OP. And they are broken , and what now... Some dude even told me i would never know how OP they are until i play like a med frame vs scouts... So i went ahead, bought a respec, got all my scout stuff even my Ck.0 and Ak.0 to proto. And after everything was done i went ahead and bought 2 ASSAULT suits. The ones i decided to use were Gk.0 and Mk.0 , because they both use CQ-MED weapons (AR+CR) that i got used to while playing as a scout. Im not playing scout again for a long time.(exact number will be updated when im at home {im at work ATM}) Gk.0 300+ Shields 500+ Armor 30+ Armor rep per sec 20 shield regen per sec 1 cx Damage mod AR or BAR or TAC (all are great with this suit) Sprt speed 7.35 Mvoement (i think it is) 5 Mk.0 450+ Shields 450 + Armor 20 armor rep per sec 40 Shield regen per sec 7.7 Sprt speed 5.2 Movement speed 85 bullet Six Kin ACR and 90 Bullet Breach SMG. Ok ,so now for you to understand. THESE GUYS Have a LOT of HP, while moving VERY fast for their EHP values, have a bonus that helps their racial weapon ( a lot, at least in these 2 cases) , etc... They are basically made for killing. I can shistand even SG to the back, i can stand infront of a Sentinel and win , i cannot get 1HKOd by snipers. Im not afraid of scouts because if i see them they will die, regardless of their fit. Yeah even Ck.0 scouts drop like flies vs my Gk.0 AR's.. So overall, the only thing i will admit Med frame whiners have correct is: The Ck.0 Scout hitbox is defective. 85 Shots out of my ACR and i only too down 50 Shields? BROOOKEEEENNN... but besides this i really dont see what all the fuzz is about./ Want to play good as an assault? just do the opposite as a scout: - SCOUT: Flank enemy groups/Stalk slow units. -ASSAULT: Stick together with your blue dots / Position yourself to abuse the range of your weapons. Even as a solo player, if i stick to 1 or 2 other blue dots, the power of my suit multiplies. Its the CONTRARY to scout suits, that i prefer being alone so that enemies wont come MY way because tehy are seeing a friendly blue on their tac net. MEd frames are not UP. Nerf hammer + Community QQers = are OP.
It would be best if you stuck to trolling the locker room with threads like your previous thread. Calscouts do not have a broken hitbox either, it's only because they can shield tank and have fast speed at the same time. Get educated on this game.
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Ace Boone
367
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:46:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:You are not dampened at all in those fittings. Try running a dampener and watch how much more effective you become.
Also I want to know how you have 450 armor and 20 armor regen with 7.7 sprint...? Two ferroscales does not give you that much armor, and you take up two low slots by giving yourself 20 regen so I'm very confused. Same thing I was wondering, also that 85 round clip six kin. Can confirm six kin has 85 rounds on a min assault due to the bonus. And he's most likely running a complex reactive, 2x complex reppers, and idk.
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Louis Domi
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
764
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:53:00 -
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Cal scout hit box is pretty messed up though, Prof 4 SCR Shooting at a proto cal scout, I know for a fact all if not most of the shots hit, I over heat when he was at like 30 armor... I should have dominated him in the first 5-7 shots |
KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5831
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Posted - 2014.11.09 23:08:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:That doesn't mean when scouts run together they can't overwhelm you with sheer speed and ganking power.
Sorry but I'm not convinced. Keep huddling close by your slow HP stacking buddies while the scouts circle around you like birds of prey.
There's a reason I chose Scout over Assault. It's simple. Kill the enemy so fast they don't know what hit them.
''That doesn't mean when scouts run together they can't overwhelm you with sheer speed and ganking power.'' Teamwork is Op in this game. Yes. So much even scouts designed for solo play become too powerful.... But that doesnt mean when ASSAULTS run together they can't overwhelm everything on the battlefield with sheer mobility, HP tank and damage output.
You think an assault cannot just kill Scouts easily? the only scout that DOESNT die easily is the Cal, because its broken (its one of my fav suits but lets be hoenst here. the thing is unhittable)
Both my assaults are Fast, have over 900EHP, and a lot of damage output.
There is nothing, 30 mts of ewar and some dampening can do to stop an assault on 1 on 1.
even the most tanked of scouts cannot achieve true Assault EHP values and adaptability.
After CAL scouts loose their hit detection glitch powers, and after med frames that struggle vs Scouts get proto scanners, then we can talk about balance.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1095
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Posted - 2014.11.09 23:24:00 -
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My only issue with scouts versus assaults is their extreme versatility. This comes from their pg/cpu, 2 weapons, and two equipment slots.
They can run logi and assault roles at the same time if they want or make one heck of a logi.
Scouts should have 1 light weapon and 1 equipment slot. Cloaking shot gunners should be a cloaking shot gunner ONLY not an ammo toting SMG slayer at the same time. < Only as example |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
5883
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Posted - 2014.11.09 23:56:00 -
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Yep Assaults are pretty good. It's more of an issue of people not knowing how to use them. Now if Assault suits could make decent EWAR fits... That would be cool!
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5831
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:04:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:You are not dampened at all in those fittings. Try running a dampener and watch how much more effective you become.
Also I want to know how you have 450 armor and 20 armor regen with 7.7 sprint...? Two ferroscales does not give you that much armor, and you take up two low slots by giving yourself 20 regen so I'm very confused.
My bad. I have two Mk.0 fits and i confused them.
Its already corrected.
Its 2 ferroscales + cx reactive + 1 cx armor rep : 450+ EHP and 14+ Armor rep
I confused it with, one that has 2 ferro and 2 cx armor reps for 20+ rep and 400ish EHP.
i apologize.
Still OP. XD
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5831
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:07:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:
It would be best if you stuck to trolling the locker room with threads like your previous thread. Calscouts do not have a broken hitbox either, it's only because they can shield tank and have fast speed at the same time. Get educated on this game.
LOL , look, scrubby boy. I have enough ''education'' about this game. You say im trolling but you are the one saying the Ck.0 is ok.
Dude, its my main suit next to my amarr scout. I know its broken. I can stand infront of a Sentinel with a boundles for 5 seconds just strafing and he wont even touch me.
I know its bad news for you, to realize that you are not the good player you thougth you were, but instead you are just using a broken suit, but hey.
truth hurts.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
759
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:10:00 -
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I have a scout GK.0 and an Assault MK.0.
The scout gets quick kills, but also dies quickly. That's the part the scout whiners don't talk about. They only remember the scouts that kill them, but not the scouts they kill. It's obvious to anyone who is invested into both suits.
I put a Six Kin CR and SMG on the MK.0 Assault and it's a monster. The clip size bonus is great.
The Assault is easier to run than the scout, less stressful than the scout, and slightly more fun. The results I get from using both are about the same.
But I love both suits. They are much fun.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5831
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:15:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:My only issue with scouts versus assaults is their extreme versatility. This comes from their pg/cpu, 2 weapons, and two equipment slots.
They can run logi and assault roles at the same time if they want or make one heck of a logi.
Scouts should have 1 light weapon and 1 equipment slot. Cloaking shot gunners should be a cloaking shot gunner ONLY not an ammo toting SMG slayer at the same time. < Only as example
Welll.. I think removing BOTH the equipment AND the sidearm is a little overkill. Consider the fact taht assaults have 1 less equipment but 2+ slots. For a total of More HP and 1 more slot....
Maybe just remove Either one ofr the other...
Still. I dont think further nerf is needed.
The TRUE UP ones right now are Logistics and Commandos.
NO SCOUT,ASSAULT or SENTINEL should be complaining their fits are Underpowered....
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Lynn Beck
Delta Vanguard 6
2200
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:16:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:So. about 3 or 4 days ago i wrote this: why people who are not scouts can't see we are already nerfed.What happened is i got some heat by people saying scouts are OP. And they are broken , and what now... Some dude even told me i would never know how OP they are until i play like a med frame vs scouts... So i went ahead, bought a respec, got all my scout stuff even my Ck.0 and Ak.0 to proto. And after everything was done i went ahead and bought 2 ASSAULT suits. The ones i decided to use were Gk.0 and Mk.0 , because they both use CQ-MED weapons (AR+CR) that i got used to while playing as a scout. Im not playing scout again for a long time.(exact number will be updated when im at home {im at work ATM}) Gk.0 300+ Shields 500+ Armor 30+ Armor rep per sec 20 shield regen per sec 1 cx Damage mod AR or BAR or TAC (all are great with this suit) Sprt speed 7.35 Mvoement (i think it is) 5 Mk.0 450+ Shields 450 + Armor 20 armor rep per sec 40 Shield regen per sec 7.7 Sprt speed 5.2 Movement speed 85 bullet Six Kin ACR and 90 Bullet Breach SMG. Ok ,so now for you to understand. THESE GUYS Have a LOT of HP, while moving VERY fast for their EHP values, have a bonus that helps their racial weapon ( a lot, at least in these 2 cases) , etc... They are basically made for killing. I can shistand even SG to the back, i can stand infront of a Sentinel and win , i cannot get 1HKOd by snipers. Im not afraid of scouts because if i see them they will die, regardless of their fit. Yeah even Ck.0 scouts drop like flies vs my Gk.0 AR's.. So overall, the only thing i will admit Med frame whiners have correct is: The Ck.0 Scout hitbox is defective. 85 Shots out of my ACR and i only too down 50 Shields? BROOOKEEEENNN... but besides this i really dont see what all the fuzz is about./ Want to play good as an assault? just do the opposite as a scout: - SCOUT: Flank enemy groups/Stalk slow units. -ASSAULT: Stick together with your blue dots / Position yourself to abuse the range of your weapons. Even as a solo player, if i stick to 1 or 2 other blue dots, the power of my suit multiplies. Its the CONTRARY to scout suits, that i prefer being alone so that enemies wont come MY way because tehy are seeing a friendly blue on their tac net. MEd frames are not UP. Nerf hammer + Community QQers = are OP. It would be best if you stuck to trolling the locker room with threads like your previous thread. Calscouts do not have a broken hitbox either, it's only because they can shield tank and have fast speed at the same time. Get educated on this game. *ensinuates shield + high speed makes OP weapondodge* *has MK.0 which dies to 5 AR rounds, with 300+ shield as well*
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
341
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:19:00 -
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it doesnt really matter because i have a scout, a logi, and a heavy.
my scout can pick your group off one by one
if that doesnt work my heavy can take your group head on
if that doesnt work my logi can support my team, or even my scout
Don't get me wrong, I DO want to eventually skill into Assault on my main character. But I've already got an Amarr Assault sitting on passive and I have a long way to go before I can comfortably stop skilling up my scout.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
989
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:23:00 -
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A lot of op/up talk comes from entitlement hoes who have been playing for ages but still can't fight and use "data" to cover lack of skill. These are the same ppl who cannot play other shooters and stick to dust because it's the most logical and least shooter of all fps.
The gap between scout and assault is not as big as is made to seem, though scouts have a number of high points that good players can abuse, scanning passives and speed mostly. I love my assault suits, and I think the AMK.0 May be my favorite suit in the game ever.
Just a lot of whiny justification for the most part.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Petra 222 SoM
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:47:00 -
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dear baby jebus, Scouts are the cause of all our problems man. They are invisible wallhackers that play every role too good.
They should be doing all those scouty things that you get all those WP for, you know like using your eyes to tell your team where the reds are for them.
Get rid of both guns. You dont need them if you are a true scout. You should spend all your time starring at poor graphics with your face 2 inches away from the objective while you are hacking it. __________________
Shhh dont tell them how good assaults are KC, let the sheep live in the dark.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5834
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:55:00 -
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Passive scans are not as OP as people make them to be. With a regular range of 30mts (with radar range Skill at level 5) all the way to the 50mts (approx) of the Cal scouts are not enough to call it OP. In order to have GOOD precision AND range , a scout must gimp itself...not to mention if you want dampening too....
I mean the only OP scout is the Cal scout that its un-hittable. Besides that ,Scouts are pretty much balanced right now. I would understand if you could effectivley damp all scouts with ONE cx Prof damp. This next to powerful e-war would make them pretty OP. But you need 2 cx damps to avoid proto scans, you need at LEAST 1 range amp on anything BUT a cal scout to have a 45-50mts range (that in this game is STILL way too little)
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18915
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:59:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote: I would understand if you could effectivley damp all scouts with ONE cx Prof damp. This next to powerful e-war would make them pretty OP. But you need 2 cx damps to avoid proto scans, you need at LEAST 1 range amp on anything BUT a cal scout to have a 45-50mts range (that in this game is STILL way too little)
No you don't? A single complex dampener will take any scout under proto scanners.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
144
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:59:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:So. about 3 or 4 days ago i wrote this: why people who are not scouts can't see we are already nerfed.What happened is i got some heat by people saying scouts are OP. And they are broken , and what now... Some dude even told me i would never know how OP they are until i play like a med frame vs scouts... So i went ahead, bought a respec, got all my scout stuff even my Ck.0 and Ak.0 to proto. And after everything was done i went ahead and bought 2 ASSAULT suits. The ones i decided to use were Gk.0 and Mk.0 , because they both use CQ-MED weapons (AR+CR) that i got used to while playing as a scout. Im not playing scout again for a long time.(exact number will be updated when im at home {im at work ATM}) Gk.0 300+ Shields 500+ Armor 30+ Armor rep per sec 20 shield regen per sec 1 cx Damage mod AR or BAR or TAC (all are great with this suit) Sprt speed 7.35 Mvoement (i think it is) 5 Mk.0 450+ Shields 450 + Armor 14+ armor rep per sec 40 Shield regen per sec 7.7 Sprt speed 5.2 Movement speed 85 bullet Six Kin ACR and 90 Bullet Breach SMG. Ok ,so now for you to understand. THESE GUYS Have a LOT of HP, while moving VERY fast for their EHP values, have a bonus that helps their racial weapon ( a lot, at least in these 2 cases) , etc... They are basically made for killing. I can shistand even SG to the back, i can stand infront of a Sentinel and win , i cannot get 1HKOd by snipers. Im not afraid of scouts because if i see them they will die, regardless of their fit. Yeah even Ck.0 scouts drop like flies vs my Gk.0 AR's.. So overall, the only thing i will admit Med frame whiners have correct is: The Ck.0 Scout hitbox is defective. 85 Shots out of my ACR and i only too down 50 Shields? BROOOKEEEENNN... but besides this i really dont see what all the fuzz is about./ Want to play good as an assault? just do the opposite as a scout: - SCOUT: Flank enemy groups/Stalk slow units. -ASSAULT: Stick together with your blue dots / Position yourself to abuse the range of your weapons. Even as a solo player, if i stick to 1 or 2 other blue dots, the power of my suit multiplies. Its the CONTRARY to scout suits, that i prefer being alone so that enemies wont come MY way because tehy are seeing a friendly blue on their tac net. MEd frames are not UP. Nerf hammer + Community QQers = are OP. Aww how cute a scout complaining about scouts being barely nerfed... In reality scouts should be a recon unit who does not have those "Wallhacks" I keep hearing about, they should be the ones to sneak around dropping uplinks, killing snipers, informing that scout's squad about where a objectives weak spot is... not running around going "YOLO" and insta blapping every person they see! Assaults should be the only ones acting 'slayer' (Commandos maybe, but they seem to enjoy redline sniping more) Scouts should be the only ones used for recon Logis should be keeping their team alive (Which they are forced to do, thankfully) Heavies should be defenders (Exception is the Commandos.They also happen to have become a common 'slayer' class) Frames should be given freedom to choose, IMO
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.11.10 01:06:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote: Aww how cute a scout complaining about scouts being barely nerfed... In reality scouts should be a recon unit who does not have those "Wallhacks" I keep hearing about, they should be the ones to sneak around dropping uplinks, killing snipers, informing that scout's squad about where a objectives weak spot is... not running around going "YOLO" and insta blapping every person they see! Assaults should be the only ones acting 'slayer' (Commandos maybe, but they seem to enjoy redline sniping more) Scouts should be the only ones used for recon Logis should be keeping their team alive (Which they are forced to do, thankfully) Heavies should be defenders (Exception is the Commandos.They also happen to have become a common 'slayer' class) Frames should be given freedom to choose, IMO
What. Im not complaining. Im just saying neither Scouts OR assaults (or sentinels) should complain.
The only UP people here are logis (well deserved for the slayer logi era) and commandos.
Thsi game is an RPG. No suit is designed for a specific purpose only....You can play your suit however you'd like.
Tanked scouts, fast Sentinels , Stealthy assaults...you name it...
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.10 01:44:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: Aww how cute a scout complaining about scouts being barely nerfed... In reality scouts should be a recon unit who does not have those "Wallhacks" I keep hearing about, they should be the ones to sneak around dropping uplinks, killing snipers, informing that scout's squad about where a objectives weak spot is... not running around going "YOLO" and insta blapping every person they see! Assaults should be the only ones acting 'slayer' (Commandos maybe, but they seem to enjoy redline sniping more) Scouts should be the only ones used for recon Logis should be keeping their team alive (Which they are forced to do, thankfully) Heavies should be defenders (Exception is the Commandos.They also happen to have become a common 'slayer' class) Frames should be given freedom to choose, IMO
What. Im not complaining. Im just saying neither Scouts OR assaults (or sentinels) should complain. The only UP people here are logis (well deserved for the slayer logi era) and commandos. Thsi game is an RPG. No suit is designed for a specific purpose only....You can play your suit however you'd like. Tanked scouts, fast Sentinels , Stealthy assaults...you name it... And as an extra note ''sir'' Raven Wing?: Doesnt matter how UP you make scouts (again) there will always be people kicking butt with them, and you will ALWAYS. i mean ALWAYS, have people that will complain about them. Why? Because people who dont know how to pay complain to get their game style/suit/weapon boosted. I say, you know what? Scouts ARE OP. Everybody go get one!(ehheehhe ) Scouts themselves are not at all OP, they are fine without the shotgun, but I myself find them wielding a shotgun good if they are using it when necessary and not for 'slayer' fits
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