Breakin Stuff..

Sniper vs Sniper (gun game) is a thing. Welcome to Dust 514 for the past several years.

You want instant gratification? Dust 514 may not be the game for you!

(when someone is really far away from you and not moving, but you wish to interact with said player.. guess what you have to do?)

Snipers have been nerfed time after time since launch. Can you not acknowledge this?

The role has now been reduced and simplified into something less than it was before.

600m range was about the only thing that separated a sniper rifle from a forge gun.

a number of things upset me..

- New dot for sniper rifle is too tiny (you lose sight of it on white backgrounds) hurts target acquisition on moving targets, too small to tell you're on target by direct line of sight color change. I would like to propose changing it back to the original dot.

-Charge sniper rifle noise is ultra annoying, headache inducing, this never got "fixed" because nobody with influence ever cared or sniped for that matter.

-Sniper rifle range on some of the larger maps created scenarios where I could see enemies that I could not shoot. i.e. 6 tower map.. from the tower top closest my MCC to the middle tower top across the center of the map overlooking the domination objective, was out of range of each other. 350m+ away. Stupid.

-Headshot damage is way too high on sniper rifles, eliminating the whole "gun game" / "gun play" between sniper on sniper. If someone decides to counter snipe you after you kill them on the ground, they can come back from any direction and line up a headshot. In the past it took more than 1 bullet to kill a sniper, allowing for the one being shot to have a small window to move, possibly make it to cover and return fire. The better sniper would win out usually. THIS IS NO LONGER THE CASE. My proposed changes wouldn't have created this zero skill scenario. (Good job IWS) See this link!

-The removal of the old Charge Sniper Rifle from the game. High damage body shots with enough bullets in the clip to allow you to miss a shot without having the huge penalty of reloading and reacquiring your target + stabilization time. You added the "executioner" and the "wanna be quickscoping tactical" but at the cost of removing the most solid sniper rifle from the game. !@#% me. Nobody asked for those two additional sniper rifle types at the cost of removing the Charge. I know you do what you want, I also know you listen from time to time. My proposed changes weren't complicated, and certainly not drastic. The game state for a sniper I feel is as awful as it has ever been. Since I know you like solutions, I suggest going back to Charlie sniper rifles / ranges / damage and increase the base damage and headshot damage each slightly. Instead of creating new gun types that aren't even good enough for PC matches. The 5 round clip Charge was at best a bad Thale's. Now there is seriously nothing close.

You went all in on making the sniper rifle a "precision / lucky bullet weapon" and it's horrible (in my humble opinion). I wish things were different, and above all I wish I found this game more appealing. I cannot recreate the fluidity and finesse of my Dust 514 sniping videos in the current game state. (someone at CCP please watch one)

I'm hating sniping, and therefore Dust 514.

I don't often respond like this. But you're stupid. How did you come up with that response from symbs original post?

Edit: before anyone starts getting their knickers in a twist let me support symbs. In very simple terms, sniping has been turned into 'i headshot you, you headshot me'. Or 'I one shot you, you one shot me'. CCP went too far with the damage increases and the ridiculous headshot multipliers. They reduced and simplified the sniping role, instead of building on it's tactical usefulness.

Given the slow rate of fire/charge-up time on the charged version, would it be fair to give it the largest clip size? Maybe 8-10 shots? Seems like a reasonable trade-off to me...

You mean aim assist is so op those afkers just seem to go 20-0 every match with damn op tactical snipers?! Wow thanks atiim you enlightened me :)

Still get 90% of snipers in the redline with snipers since redlined were moved closer to objectives.

And every good squad had a sniper in it. You needed it for recon on large maps.

The guy who took the lead on snipers isn't even a sniper.. (or an active player)

Can you imagine the uproar if a popular role such as Scouts / Heavies / Tanks was handled by someone with no intimate knowledge of those roles? I feel entitled to be upset, about the changes and the guy who suggested them.

I try to avoid sniping in the red line, there are drop ship only accessible locations in highly contested areas I would much rather frequent. Even from these locations however, enemy red line snipers with the new range nerf are immune. They're just too far away.

I told Judge Rham that a range reduction would promote red line sniping instead of fixing it. I bet on the wrong horse however. I needed to be emailing the guy with 7,000 kills instead. What the ****.