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Vyuru wrote:

Same here.

I will say though that I'm seeing fewer proto suits being fielded by randoms, but I'm still seeing endless proto squad stomps.

And I agree with what others have said. I can put up a decent fight, but when it seems like I am the only one trying to hack points or use drop uplinks? That isn't fun to me.

Honestly, I'm a bit tired of 1.9, even though I like some aspects of it. It's shoe horned me into a SG cloak game. Why?

If I run as assault, I can't flank, I'm hunted down and killed by stupid logi scanners, or a LAV with 2x logi 1x hvy, all proto, pulls up and rips me a new one when I try to hack a point.

If I can find a good heavy to run with, Logi can work, sometimes, for some maps.

Hvy I need a good logi, which is hard to find.

Which results in the SG cloak scout.

Now I've been running as an EWAR SG scout since day one, which for me was in open beta. I love scouts, I love what I do with 'em and how I can turn the tide of a fight by dropping uplinks, hacking points, all while playing a skirmisher/guerrilla warfare style of fight. What I don't like is being forced into that role to stay competitive and to have SOME chance of being able to make a difference.

For crying out loud, I get hate mail as a scout because I kill people and I don't even bloody well use any tanking modules!

I am frustrated because for some areas and some situations, cloaks can be very handy, such as standing still as a squad runs past you. But honestly, I think this change to cloaks was not the way to go. It hurts the lone infiltrator/hacker far more than it hurts the teamwork of Caldari scouts, damps in lows, tanked shields, with proto combat rifles.


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One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5615	Posted - 2014.11.06 22:32:00 - [1] - Quote Team balancing is broken. Before Mu, there were some big blowouts, but there were more good games. Now, I NEVER see a good game. Not ever. Every game is a blowout. Every single one. No matter what I do, I am always against a well coordinated team spamming uplinks in high places with a team that never helps out. Every now and then, they are on my team, and we win easily. I can't even have fun when I do well, because I know no matter what I do, no matter how well I do, my team is going to lose. It was like that from the start of the game, and the rest is going through the motions. My monthly win loss ratio is 0.13. How the thunderbolt is that balanced? All time I am 1.17. That is WAAAAAY to much a discrepancy for it to be anything other than the current system. Something needs changed, or I can't play this game. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5615	Posted - 2014.11.06 22:37:00 - [2] - Quote Foley Jones wrote: Don't worry I like you OP C: Thank you. That didn't cheer me up, but it did make me marginally less angry. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5625	Posted - 2014.11.06 22:44:00 - [3] - Quote shaman oga wrote: MU works for random vs random in my personal experience. That is the problem. Its never random vs random. I miss the days when a bunch of randoms could suddenly rise up and overtake their proto stomping overlords. Those days are gone. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5625	Posted - 2014.11.06 22:47:00 - [4] - Quote Phantasmal Priestess wrote: My win/lose ration has significantly increased since the new MU. I always get put on the team with PC vets I recognize, and I win at least 90% of the time. P.S. I AFK farm most my matches Sweet. You probably get more ISK per sacrifice for your efforts too. Working as intended. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5626	Posted - 2014.11.06 22:52:00 - [5] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: As a nod to thunderbolt, "haters gonna hate." Keep it real, my brutha. To your point, its only been 5-6 days in for the month. Don't know how many games you have played but the sample size is still fairly small. I'm guessing you are just in a rough patch, and by the end of the month you will be closer to a 1:1 ratio. If not, then I say "Thunderbolt this game." My assumption is that it was a rolling tally that takes into account everything the month previous. I don't win enough games to get it back to a 1:1 ratio. I would have to go on a hell of a streak, and considering Mu is calculated by our entire career, these losses aren't enough to bring things back to normal anytime soon. Thunderbolting balancing. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5626	Posted - 2014.11.06 22:55:00 - [6] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Thats strange. Most of my matches have been very close. Perhaps try squadding up or playing a different game mode? Sometimes I can't squad, like when I am doing laundry and need to play at my own speed, or before work when I only play a game or two. With so many unsquadded people playing, or people joining random squads, something needs fixing. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5633	Posted - 2014.11.06 23:35:00 - [7] - Quote Last match: My team has about 40 clones left. The opposing, well over 100. The MCC blew up while theirs still had plenty of shields. The matches have grown increasingly infuriating. I think its time to call it a night, maybe a week, or a month. I haven't been so frustrated since before 1.6. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5667	Posted - 2014.11.07 18:08:00 - [8] - Quote Vyuru wrote: Same here. I will say though that I'm seeing fewer proto suits being fielded by randoms, but I'm still seeing endless proto squad stomps. And I agree with what others have said. I can put up a decent fight, but when it seems like I am the only one trying to hack points or use drop uplinks? That isn't fun to me. Honestly, I'm a bit tired of 1.9, even though I like some aspects of it. It's shoe horned me into a SG cloak game. Why? If I run as assault, I can't flank, I'm hunted down and killed by stupid logi scanners, or a LAV with 2x logi 1x hvy, all proto, pulls up and rips me a new one when I try to hack a point. If I can find a good heavy to run with, Logi can work, sometimes, for some maps. Hvy I need a good logi, which is hard to find. Which results in the SG cloak scout. Now I've been running as an EWAR SG scout since day one, which for me was in open beta. I love scouts, I love what I do with 'em and how I can turn the tide of a fight by dropping uplinks, hacking points, all while playing a skirmisher/guerrilla warfare style of fight. What I don't like is being forced into that role to stay competitive and to have SOME chance of being able to make a difference. For crying out loud, I get hate mail as a scout because I kill people and I don't even bloody well use any tanking modules! I am frustrated because for some areas and some situations, cloaks can be very handy, such as standing still as a squad runs past you. But honestly, I think this change to cloaks was not the way to go. It hurts the lone infiltrator/hacker far more than it hurts the teamwork of Caldari scouts, damps in lows, tanked shields, with proto combat rifles. Absolute truth. I don't run SG, and really can't do squat. I try and place uplinks, but since I don't call in an ADS and put them in unreachable places, they get scanned and taken out. Even if I am putting them around strategically. I run knives, but get ambushed by heavies and assaults because I shimmer and run right in front of them, where I otherwise wouldn't if I knew they were around. When I try and hack, I get killed by camping scouts, because that is the only role left for them when they have that little HP. And when you add insanely stacked teams to that equation, it becomes infuriating. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5667	Posted - 2014.11.07 18:11:00 - [9] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: Lol well when your ratio is accurate and no longer inflated it will work properly duh. How does your post even make sense? Either I was just so super awesome that before Mu came along I could carry a team, and suddenly have to fight full squads, because only they are good enough to be on my level, which is laughable. OR The previous system was so messed up that it often put me on the winning side. It would be different if my WL ratio was 0.7 or 0.6. MAYBE that would mean I was coming down to a justifiable area, but 0.13? That is just f*cked up. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5677	Posted - 2014.11.07 18:51:00 - [10] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Seems like the mu system massively overestimates my skill, too. I mean, my KDR is just under 1 but my W/L ratio is decent, my WP/D is pretty good, but I'm a logi. You just can't put me on the side with randoms and expect good things to happen... I too have not many people to squad with anymore outside of FW due to Destiny and Fanfest. Then again I'm going to do 99% FW now that pub payouts are no longer 2mil and I can sell my salvage. So I guess the above is moot. Screw you guys, I'm going home... This is one thing I was thinking of yesterday. It doesn't take into account skills/roles etc. If you took 16 players with high Mus, but they were all skilled only into heavies vs 16 players with the same level Mus, yet they were spread across the role spectrum, then of course the second team is going to win. Many of the squads I see running have a variety of positions, with heavies logis and vehicle pilots coordinating. THAT is such a powerful tool, and Mu takes none of that into account. If one team has lots of ADS and the other has none, then the high ground is taken, and there is no coming back from that. Game over, no matter how "balanced" the rest seems. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5713	Posted - 2014.11.08 16:50:00 - [11] - Quote Xatha De'Agelle wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Team balancing is broken. Before Mu, there were some big blowouts, but there were more good games. Now, I NEVER see a good game. Not ever. Every game is a blowout. Every single one. No matter what I do, I am always against a well coordinated team spamming uplinks in high places with a team that never helps out. Every now and then, they are on my team, and we win easily. I can't even have fun when I do well, because I know no matter what I do, no matter how well I do, my team is going to lose. It was like that from the start of the game, and the rest is going through the motions. My monthly win loss ratio is 0.13. How the thunderbolt is that balanced? All time I am 1.17. That is WAAAAAY to much a discrepancy for it to be anything other than the current system. Something needs changed, or I can't play this game. I came here, right now, to report this. Every match, I'm dropping with my entire side being random against proto squads. With this event happening and seeing this nearly every single drop I'm getting fatigued very fast. It isn't balancing correctly. I shouldn't have to fight teams like Nyan san every match. It isn't fair. It isn't fair in any sense to be matched against THAT every time. I agree. It is incredibly exhausting. I even am at a place where I have multiple fittings to do multiple roles in case one of them is negated. My last match I played every role I had at my disposal, and still couldn't do anything. I just can't play until next Tuesday when the next hotfix comes in. It is just not worth it. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5713	Posted - 2014.11.08 16:54:00 - [12] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: Am I the only one that has been getting really good fights? One of the few. Squadding seems the only way to do it reliably right now. 1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?