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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.06 10:33:00 -
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elitist vets are back to proto-squad stomping because they can where as people who are newer and dont have PC on farm cant run proto to counter proto.
whats the oppinion of the community (excluding elitist vets ) on elitist vets squad stomping in proto and makeing a game 95% 1 sided and doing nothing but farming kills and causeing nothing but rage anger and frustration for the opposing team.
ps. just happened to be with a group from molon labe, carbon 7 war ravens duna corp... we couldnt cap anything till the last tiny sliver of MCC armor of which i managed to drop an uplink and hack a cru...
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.11.06 10:46:00 -
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I think it needs a little buff maybe 700k standard
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Ablerober
Pretty Violence
168
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Posted - 2014.11.06 10:46:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:elitist vets are back to proto-squad stomping because they can where as people who are newer and dont have PC on farm cant run proto to counter proto.
whats the oppinion of the community (excluding elitist vets ) on elitist vets squad stomping in proto and makeing a game 95% 1 sided and doing nothing but farming kills and causeing nothing but rage anger and frustration for the opposing team.
ps. just happened to be with a group from molon labe, carbon 7 war ravens duna corp... we couldnt cap anything till the last tiny sliver of MCC armor of which i managed to drop an uplink and hack a cru...
You don't need proto to counter proto - you need tactics.
Don't you read anything on these forums ffs.
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
1025
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Posted - 2014.11.06 11:35:00 -
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Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now...
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Juno Tristan
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.06 11:47:00 -
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You don't get proto stomped by solo players, you get stomped by squads, and they can turn a profit in pubs as they'll also be running proto needles |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.06 12:30:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug?
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.06 12:34:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:I think it needs a little buff maybe 700k standard well between 300-700k cause in 1.8 a normal payment for time was like 200k but in 1.9 its as low as 150k and for a logi (note expensive to fit and low ehp) it just dosnt cut it
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.11.06 12:34:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug?
Plenty of the time when I'm playing with my regular group it's pretty frequent for us to go whole matches without actually losing a suit. If we do lose one it generally wasn't a proto suit.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
4554
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Posted - 2014.11.06 12:40:00 -
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I earned my 1.9 millyunz running bpos and stress testing the Mk.0 sentinel.
It was amazing.
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sir RAVEN WING
Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate
119
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Posted - 2014.11.06 12:52:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I earned my 1.9 millyunz running bpos and stress testing the Mk.0 sentinel.
It was amazing. You only have 1.9 million?
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1623
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Posted - 2014.11.06 13:06:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I earned my 1.9 millyunz running bpos and stress testing the Mk.0 sentinel.
It was amazing. not eveyone has the luxury of running full BPO suits and even then the BPO suits if they are not scout/assault/logi are worthless and dont even put up a fight
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.06 13:09:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? Plenty of the time when I'm playing with my regular group it's pretty frequent for us to go whole matches without actually losing a suit. If we do lose one it generally wasn't a proto suit. thats because protosquads dont die :P
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Bax Zanith
Sinfonia1898
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Posted - 2014.11.06 14:24:00 -
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There is a phrase from The Walking Dead that best describes proto stomping; "You're eather the cow or the butcher."
That shouldn't be what a game is like, yet that seems to be what people want.
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They died from the cold within.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1625
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:07:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:I earned my 1.9 millyunz running bpos and stress testing the Mk.0 sentinel.
It was amazing. You only have 1.9 million? he proabably means billion. goons always find ways to made cash even from glitches and mechanics
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:29:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? Yes but now it's back to boring stomps
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:09:00 -
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Oh and now I'm back to having no incentive to contribute the full abilities of my mercenary as situations call for them..on the fourth I would swap roles persistently and counter everything I could because there was incentive
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altair Dovahkiin
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:15:00 -
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Ablerober wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:elitist vets are back to proto-squad stomping because they can where as people who are newer and dont have PC on farm cant run proto to counter proto.
whats the oppinion of the community (excluding elitist vets ) on elitist vets squad stomping in proto and makeing a game 95% 1 sided and doing nothing but farming kills and causeing nothing but rage anger and frustration for the opposing team.
ps. just happened to be with a group from molon labe, carbon 7 war ravens duna corp... we couldnt cap anything till the last tiny sliver of MCC armor of which i managed to drop an uplink and hack a cru... Its always been like this.... And you don't need proto to counter proto - you need tactics. Don't you read anything on these forums ffs? It was a bug which enabled some of us to get paid silly money for doing what we've always done. Its been fixed now. Get over it.
by (tactics) you mean running in a squad with player that have been playing for more then a year.
a proto squad is out for one thing to stomp/farm that's it. if that was not the case then they would still use proto went they go against a proto squad but they do not . they leave the match or start running starter fits or cheaper suit.
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
14912
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:30:00 -
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I think you should pucker up buttercup and get your MLT on
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1313
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:31:00 -
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noo bro but the struggle for isk builds so much character!!!
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LT Dans Legs
Evzones Public.Disorder.
500
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:20:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? Heck ya, the battles where more fun because everyone pushed harder cuz they didn't have to worry about going broke. But nope, back to boring ol one sided Dust again.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2036
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:46:00 -
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My squads are there to do one thing: Win.
If you bring it, there will be a good fight. If you don't, you will get stomped.
As it should be, IMO.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1631
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:48:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:My squads are there to do one thing. Win.
If you bring it, there will be a good fight.
If you don't, you will get stomped.
As it should be, IMO.
Would you rather us not try? id rather squads went against squads and not pubs n randoms and MLT newbies
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2036
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:49:00 -
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We do, all the time.
Maybe you should run in squads?
We can't help it if there are a lot of people who play solo, then cry when they get beat....mostly by teamwork.
But go ahead and blame teamwork and proto suits and PC farming.
That will not make you any better.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1631
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:52:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:We do, all the time.
Maybe you should run in squads.
I can't help it if there are a lot of people who play solo, then cry when they get beat....mostly by teamwork.
But go ahead and blame teamwork and proto suits and PC farming.
That will not make you any better.
Excuses are a crutch to mediocrity. i play pub just to solo a quick in and out. i squad for FW where you may find better fights but oh wait a minute.. no isk for partisipation and harder fights where you may actually lose a proto suit or 3.. that is why proto scrubs play public, big fish.. small pond.
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:55:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:We do, all the time.
Maybe you should run in squads.
I can't help it if there are a lot of people who play solo, then cry when they get beat....mostly by teamwork.
But go ahead and blame teamwork and proto suits and PC farming.
That will not make you any better.
Excuses are a crutch to mediocrity. i play pub just to solo a quick in and out. i squad for FW where you may find better fights but oh wait a minute.. no isk for partisipation and harder fights where you may actually lose a proto suit or 3.. that is why proto scrubs play public, big fish.. small pond. I standard and adv stomp
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2036
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:55:00 -
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lol
We play both FW and pubs nightly.
I would crush you in an advanced suit with dual sidearms -- which is what I mostly run.
Doesn't quite fit into you "proto scrub" description, now does it?
I got this way, not through some magical fast twitch muscles of a 15 year old. I'm 44.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1631
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:01:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:We do, all the time.
Maybe you should run in squads.
I can't help it if there are a lot of people who play solo, then cry when they get beat....mostly by teamwork.
But go ahead and blame teamwork and proto suits and PC farming.
That will not make you any better.
Excuses are a crutch to mediocrity. i play pub just to solo a quick in and out. i squad for FW where you may find better fights but oh wait a minute.. no isk for partisipation and harder fights where you may actually lose a proto suit or 3.. that is why proto scrubs play public, big fish.. small pond. lol We play PC, FW and pubs nightly. I suspect I would crush you in an advanced suit with dual sidearms -- which is what I mostly run these days. Doesn't quite fit into you "proto scrub" description, now does it? I got this way, not through some magical fast twitch muscles of a 15 year old. I'm 44. I'm able to do this not because of some magical PC ISK faucet. I've never received on ISK from district locking. I'm able to do this because I seek to improve. Not making up excuses when faced with a challenge, but rather accepting them and using them to get better. Which path will you choose? adv suit.. dual sidearms.. lol i bet its a scout suit.. and IDK im a logi im here to help not be a massive Epeen egoist slayer. and lol at you implying im 15. as for proto-scrub.. it just always seems the squads who are stomping seem to kill me and i see proto suit x, proto weapon x.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2039
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:07:00 -
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Yup, dual sidearm is a scout. So? You can run one too.
And so you know, I logi too, and probably better than you.
If I were to call you a 15 year old, I would do it directly. I was simply trying to stay one step ahead of the excuses.
I am not stroking my epeen. I'm really not that good at this game compared to many. But I can tell from your posts that I'm better than you.
Are there any other names you'd like to call me? Any other excuses you'd like to make?
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Templar Investigative Commission
453
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:12:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? Yeah, they did feel pretty good but I don't think it had anything to do with proto
1. players hadn't memorized the new maps so everyone was on an even footing with map knowledge
2. everything felt novel because of the minor tweaks to settings and environment
3. new, beginner, and amateur players were constantly logging in to see 1.9 as well as the vets so there was a larger pool of lower skill players on the battlefield than average.
4. Mu matching works better the more players there are.
5. With such large payouts, who cared if you lost a match or came in on the bottom five on the point board, you were getting anywhere from 300,000 isk to over 7 million.
but there was kind of a "throw care to the wind" attitude that made Dust a lot of fun. Those matches were pretty good. (^_^ )
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
273
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:36:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote: i play pub just to solo a quick in and out. i squad for FW where you may find better fights but oh wait a minute.. no isk for partisipation and harder fights where you may actually lose a proto suit or 3.. that is why proto scrubs play public, big fish.. small pond.
I play 99% of my matches solo, including FW. Its possible, but you have to be ready for the huge challenge that it is. As far as Molon goes, they dont always run full proto stomps. I run into solo or squads of them using regular gear in FW all the time. It should be called "squad stomping", because its the coordination and close communication of a group that magnifies the power it can project.
As far as the ISK goes, the amount should be upped by about 40%, but not as high as we saw. One of the aspects of warfare is financing your war. This game is tied to a larger MMO. We cant just have unlimited decisions with minimal consequences. We are mercenaries, we fight for ISK.
Leadfoot10 wrote: I suspect I would crush you in an advanced suit with dual sidearms -- which is what I mostly run these days.
Doesn't quite fit into you "proto scrub" description, now does it?
I got this way, not through some magical fast twitch muscles of a 15 year old. I'm 44.
I'm able to do this not because of some magical PC ISK faucet. I've never received on ISK from district locking.
I'm able to do this because I recognize that the only person I can control is myself. I don't make up pejoratives for people who are better than me at this game. I don't make up excuses when faced with a challenge, but rather accept them and use them to get better.
Lol been here before havent you? I cant really think of much else that one could accuse you of. |
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2039
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:52:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: I play 99% of my matches solo, including FW. Its possible, but you have to be ready for the huge challenge that it is. As far as Molon goes, they dont always run full proto stomps. I run into solo or squads of them using regular gear in FW all the time. It should be called "squad stomping", because its the coordination and close communication of a group that magnifies the power it can project.
As far as the ISK goes, the amount should be upped by about 40%, but not as high as we saw. One of the aspects of warfare is financing your war. This game is tied to a larger MMO. We cant just have unlimited decisions with minimal consequences. We are mercenaries, we fight for ISK.
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altair Dovahkiin
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.11.06 20:03:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I think you should pucker up buttercup and get your MLT on
this from the same guy crying about swarms taking down this ADS. (Swarms Are So Stupid) is that ringing any bell
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4385
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Posted - 2014.11.06 20:06:00 -
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BPOs.
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Charli Chaplin jr
F0RSAKEN EMPIRE.
17
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Posted - 2014.11.08 20:19:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:There is a phrase from The Walking Dead that best describes proto stomping; "You're eather the cow or the butcher."
That shouldn't be what a game is like, yet that seems to be what people want. True Story. :)
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1233
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Posted - 2014.11.08 20:20:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:I think it needs a little buff maybe 700k standard yes i like that
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CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
59
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Posted - 2014.11.08 20:35:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? to be real they didn't put up more of a fight they just died in more expensive gear.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
5896
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Posted - 2014.11.08 20:44:00 -
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Why not just get rid of all std and adv then make all suits prefit proto with no way to change the fits, remove isk and make all my 75% smaller then rename the game to "Cod514" I like dust because of the variation. If everyone has the same thing at the best there would be no need for isk or anything to have meaning.
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EVE 21 Day Trial
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Kalante Schiffer
YOU GOT OWNED BY A CHRONIC FAPPER
819
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Posted - 2014.11.08 20:58:00 -
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aahh.. people still dont realize how to make millions of isk.. perhaps even billions. Look at me i am not even in a farming corp and im a filthy billionaire and recently i was offered billions of isk to join a corp. And look at viktor he is more billionaire than me and he is not in a farming corp also. People expect easy isk but they do not work for it. Yall do know PC is not even what it used to be, all the monster corps are gone specially TP and AE.
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Louis Domi
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
752
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Posted - 2014.11.08 21:01:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:You don't get proto stomped by solo players, you get stomped by squads, and they can turn a profit in pubs as they'll also be running proto needles
I stomp without squads... Just today I went 43-7 kept the entire enemy away from the objective by myself( rest of my team was far from objective on a ledge... I was pissed) The top 10 on the enemy team had less than 10 kills and a negative kdr, There was one team mate who was at the objective with me, but he died too much and kept leaving to fend off the enemy by myself. I was using basic cal ass with a TAR and Ion pistol. |
xAckie
Ghost. Mob
460
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Posted - 2014.11.08 22:11:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:We do, all the time.
Maybe you should run in squads?
We can't help it if there are a lot of people who play solo, then cry when they get beat....mostly by teamwork.
But go ahead and blame teamwork and proto suits and PC farming.
That will not make you any better.
Excuses are a crutch to mediocrity. Challenges pave the road to progress.
Which path will you choose?
oh please
the games you play are crap cause your are farming people.
I have just tried to play Dust and stopped after being redlined for the 4th time, same as yesterday - it is too fuuccking boring of a game to play when its like that
you could say i should squad but then we just red line the other way - so whats the point
And yes, I run proto so its got f all to do with paving roads
CCP need to open up a mode without squads. One with team depoly.
And most of all tiercide dropsuits
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tander09
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
171
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Posted - 2014.11.08 22:17:00 -
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People who run proto are wussies in big boy clothing, seriously.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
309
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Posted - 2014.11.08 22:28:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:My squads are there to do one thing: Win.
If you bring it, there will be a good fight. If you don't, you will get stomped.
As it should be, IMO.
Would you rather us not try?
You cower behind proto. Period. You're not trying harder, you're SPENDING harder.
It's okay because I'll slaughter your Moldy asses all day with my Quafe Sentinel A-1. ****, go ahead and try to spawn camp me. I'll take at least one of you out with me you ***** ass motherfuckers.
You people are NOTHING without your proto.
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