DUST Search - with out the high isk payments...

Leadfoot10 wrote:

Apothecary Za'ki wrote:

Leadfoot10 wrote:

We do, all the time.

Maybe you should run in squads.

I can't help it if there are a lot of people who play solo, then cry when they get beat....mostly by teamwork.

But go ahead and blame teamwork and proto suits and PC farming.

That will not make you any better.

Excuses are a crutch to mediocrity.

i play pub just to solo a quick in and out.
i squad for FW where you may find better fights but oh wait a minute.. no isk for partisipation and harder fights where you may actually lose a proto suit or 3.. that is why proto scrubs play public, big fish.. small pond.

lol

We play PC, FW and pubs nightly.

I suspect I would crush you in an advanced suit with dual sidearms -- which is what I mostly run these days.

Doesn't quite fit into you "proto scrub" description, now does it?

I got this way, not through some magical fast twitch muscles of a 15 year old. I'm 44.

I'm able to do this not because of some magical PC ISK faucet. I've never received on ISK from district locking.

I'm able to do this because I seek to improve. Not making up excuses when faced with a challenge, but rather accepting them and using them to get better.

Which path will you choose?

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Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1621	Posted - 2014.11.06 10:33:00 - [1] - Quote elitist vets are back to proto-squad stomping because they can where as people who are newer and dont have PC on farm cant run proto to counter proto. whats the oppinion of the community (excluding elitist vets ) on elitist vets squad stomping in proto and makeing a game 95% 1 sided and doing nothing but farming kills and causeing nothing but rage anger and frustration for the opposing team. ps. just happened to be with a group from molon labe, carbon 7 war ravens duna corp... we couldnt cap anything till the last tiny sliver of MCC armor of which i managed to drop an uplink and hack a cru... [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 663	Posted - 2014.11.06 10:46:00 - [2] - Quote I think it needs a little buff maybe 700k standard SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Ablerober Pretty Violence 168	Posted - 2014.11.06 10:46:00 - [3] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: elitist vets are back to proto-squad stomping because they can where as people who are newer and dont have PC on farm cant run proto to counter proto. whats the oppinion of the community (excluding elitist vets ) on elitist vets squad stomping in proto and makeing a game 95% 1 sided and doing nothing but farming kills and causeing nothing but rage anger and frustration for the opposing team. ps. just happened to be with a group from molon labe, carbon 7 war ravens duna corp... we couldnt cap anything till the last tiny sliver of MCC armor of which i managed to drop an uplink and hack a cru... You don't need proto to counter proto - you need tactics. Don't you read anything on these forums ffs.
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 1025	Posted - 2014.11.06 11:35:00 - [4] - Quote Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
Juno Tristan Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 145	Posted - 2014.11.06 11:47:00 - [5] - Quote You don't get proto stomped by solo players, you get stomped by squads, and they can turn a profit in pubs as they'll also be running proto needles
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1622	Posted - 2014.11.06 12:30:00 - [6] - Quote Tech De Ra wrote: Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1622	Posted - 2014.11.06 12:34:00 - [7] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I think it needs a little buff maybe 700k standard well between 300-700k cause in 1.8 a normal payment for time was like 200k but in 1.9 its as low as 150k and for a logi (note expensive to fit and low ehp) it just dosnt cut it [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1562	Posted - 2014.11.06 12:34:00 - [8] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Tech De Ra wrote: Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? Plenty of the time when I'm playing with my regular group it's pretty frequent for us to go whole matches without actually losing a suit. If we do lose one it generally wasn't a proto suit. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4554	Posted - 2014.11.06 12:40:00 - [9] - Quote I earned my 1.9 millyunz running bpos and stress testing the Mk.0 sentinel. It was amazing. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
sir RAVEN WING Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate 119	Posted - 2014.11.06 12:52:00 - [10] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: I earned my 1.9 millyunz running bpos and stress testing the Mk.0 sentinel. It was amazing. You only have 1.9 million? "That's what I like to see, 0 kills and still #1!" MPT Vet. 514 lottery tickets half off!

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1623	Posted - 2014.11.06 13:06:00 - [11] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: I earned my 1.9 millyunz running bpos and stress testing the Mk.0 sentinel. It was amazing. not eveyone has the luxury of running full BPO suits and even then the BPO suits if they are not scout/assault/logi are worthless and dont even put up a fight [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1623	Posted - 2014.11.06 13:09:00 - [12] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Tech De Ra wrote: Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? Plenty of the time when I'm playing with my regular group it's pretty frequent for us to go whole matches without actually losing a suit. If we do lose one it generally wasn't a proto suit. thats because protosquads dont die :P [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Bax Zanith Sinfonia1898 209	Posted - 2014.11.06 14:24:00 - [13] - Quote There is a phrase from The Walking Dead that best describes proto stomping; "You're eather the cow or the butcher." That shouldn't be what a game is like, yet that seems to be what people want. They didn't die from the cold without They died from the cold within. - James Patrick Kinney
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1625	Posted - 2014.11.06 15:07:00 - [14] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I earned my 1.9 millyunz running bpos and stress testing the Mk.0 sentinel. It was amazing. You only have 1.9 million? he proabably means billion. goons always find ways to made cash even from glitches and mechanics [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.11.06 15:29:00 - [15] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Tech De Ra wrote: Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? Yes but now it's back to boring stomps Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 43	Posted - 2014.11.06 16:09:00 - [16] - Quote Oh and now I'm back to having no incentive to contribute the full abilities of my mercenary as situations call for them..on the fourth I would swap roles persistently and counter everything I could because there was incentive Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
altair Dovahkiin Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.11.06 16:15:00 - [17] - Quote Ablerober wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: elitist vets are back to proto-squad stomping because they can where as people who are newer and dont have PC on farm cant run proto to counter proto. whats the oppinion of the community (excluding elitist vets ) on elitist vets squad stomping in proto and makeing a game 95% 1 sided and doing nothing but farming kills and causeing nothing but rage anger and frustration for the opposing team. ps. just happened to be with a group from molon labe, carbon 7 war ravens duna corp... we couldnt cap anything till the last tiny sliver of MCC armor of which i managed to drop an uplink and hack a cru... Its always been like this.... And you don't need proto to counter proto - you need tactics. Don't you read anything on these forums ffs? It was a bug which enabled some of us to get paid silly money for doing what we've always done. Its been fixed now. Get over it. by (tactics) you mean running in a squad with player that have been playing for more then a year. a proto squad is out for one thing to stomp/farm that's it. if that was not the case then they would still use proto went they go against a proto squad but they do not . they leave the match or start running starter fits or cheaper suit. Bravery doesn't mean you aren't scared. It means you go anyway
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14912	Posted - 2014.11.06 16:30:00 - [18] - Quote I think you should pucker up buttercup and get your MLT on Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+ Bitter Vet extraordinaire
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1313	Posted - 2014.11.06 16:31:00 - [19] - Quote noo bro but the struggle for isk builds so much character!!! AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
LT Dans Legs Evzones Public.Disorder. 500	Posted - 2014.11.06 17:20:00 - [20] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Tech De Ra wrote: Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? Heck ya, the battles where more fun because everyone pushed harder cuz they didn't have to worry about going broke. But nope, back to boring ol one sided Dust again. To Live Is To Die

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2036	Posted - 2014.11.06 17:46:00 - [21] - Quote My squads are there to do one thing: Win. If you bring it, there will be a good fight. If you don't, you will get stomped. As it should be, IMO. Would you rather us not try?
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1631	Posted - 2014.11.06 17:48:00 - [22] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: My squads are there to do one thing. Win. If you bring it, there will be a good fight. If you don't, you will get stomped. As it should be, IMO. Would you rather us not try? id rather squads went against squads and not pubs n randoms and MLT newbies [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2036	Posted - 2014.11.06 17:49:00 - [23] - Quote We do, all the time. Maybe you should run in squads? We can't help it if there are a lot of people who play solo, then cry when they get beat....mostly by teamwork. But go ahead and blame teamwork and proto suits and PC farming. That will not make you any better. Excuses are a crutch to mediocrity. Challenges pave the road to progress. Which path will you choose?
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1631	Posted - 2014.11.06 17:52:00 - [24] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: We do, all the time. Maybe you should run in squads. I can't help it if there are a lot of people who play solo, then cry when they get beat....mostly by teamwork. But go ahead and blame teamwork and proto suits and PC farming. That will not make you any better. Excuses are a crutch to mediocrity. i play pub just to solo a quick in and out. i squad for FW where you may find better fights but oh wait a minute.. no isk for partisipation and harder fights where you may actually lose a proto suit or 3.. that is why proto scrubs play public, big fish.. small pond. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 43	Posted - 2014.11.06 17:55:00 - [25] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: We do, all the time. Maybe you should run in squads. I can't help it if there are a lot of people who play solo, then cry when they get beat....mostly by teamwork. But go ahead and blame teamwork and proto suits and PC farming. That will not make you any better. Excuses are a crutch to mediocrity. i play pub just to solo a quick in and out. i squad for FW where you may find better fights but oh wait a minute.. no isk for partisipation and harder fights where you may actually lose a proto suit or 3.. that is why proto scrubs play public, big fish.. small pond. I standard and adv stomp Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2036	Posted - 2014.11.06 17:55:00 - [26] - Quote lol We play both FW and pubs nightly. I would crush you in an advanced suit with dual sidearms -- which is what I mostly run. Doesn't quite fit into you "proto scrub" description, now does it? I got this way, not through some magical fast twitch muscles of a 15 year old. I'm 44. It took lots of practice, and not making up excuses when faced with a challenge, but rather accepting it and trying to improve.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1631	Posted - 2014.11.06 18:01:00 - [27] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: We do, all the time. Maybe you should run in squads. I can't help it if there are a lot of people who play solo, then cry when they get beat....mostly by teamwork. But go ahead and blame teamwork and proto suits and PC farming. That will not make you any better. Excuses are a crutch to mediocrity. i play pub just to solo a quick in and out. i squad for FW where you may find better fights but oh wait a minute.. no isk for partisipation and harder fights where you may actually lose a proto suit or 3.. that is why proto scrubs play public, big fish.. small pond. lol We play PC, FW and pubs nightly. I suspect I would crush you in an advanced suit with dual sidearms -- which is what I mostly run these days. Doesn't quite fit into you "proto scrub" description, now does it? I got this way, not through some magical fast twitch muscles of a 15 year old. I'm 44. I'm able to do this not because of some magical PC ISK faucet. I've never received on ISK from district locking. I'm able to do this because I seek to improve. Not making up excuses when faced with a challenge, but rather accepting them and using them to get better. Which path will you choose? adv suit.. dual sidearms.. lol i bet its a scout suit.. and IDK im a logi im here to help not be a massive Epeen egoist slayer. and lol at you implying im 15. as for proto-scrub.. it just always seems the squads who are stomping seem to kill me and i see proto suit x, proto weapon x. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2039	Posted - 2014.11.06 18:07:00 - [28] - Quote Yup, dual sidearm is a scout. So? You can run one too. And so you know, I logi too, and probably better than you. If I were to call you a 15 year old, I would do it directly. I was simply trying to stay one step ahead of the excuses. I am not stroking my epeen. I'm really not that good at this game compared to many. But I can tell from your posts that I'm better than you. Are there any other names you'd like to call me? Any other excuses you'd like to make? The good players, almost without exception, don't make excuses. They don't rage over what others do or don't do. They take it in. The learn. They adapt. They get better. The choice is yours.
Riruodo Templar Investigative Commission 453	Posted - 2014.11.06 18:12:00 - [29] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Tech De Ra wrote: Having high isk payouts encourages proto use more than there is now... yes but players who arnt in pc or dont run with squads as often werre able to run with proto and put up more of a fight, dont you remember how good the fights were on the 4th before ccp fixed the payout bug? Yeah, they did feel pretty good but I don't think it had anything to do with proto 1. players hadn't memorized the new maps so everyone was on an even footing with map knowledge 2. everything felt novel because of the minor tweaks to settings and environment 3. new, beginner, and amateur players were constantly logging in to see 1.9 as well as the vets so there was a larger pool of lower skill players on the battlefield than average. 4. Mu matching works better the more players there are. 5. With such large payouts, who cared if you lost a match or came in on the bottom five on the point board, you were getting anywhere from 300,000 isk to over 7 million. but there was kind of a "throw care to the wind" attitude that made Dust a lot of fun. Those matches were pretty good. (^_^ ) Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor. - Michael Fassbender for male market agent.
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 273	Posted - 2014.11.06 18:36:00 - [30] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: i play pub just to solo a quick in and out. i squad for FW where you may find better fights but oh wait a minute.. no isk for partisipation and harder fights where you may actually lose a proto suit or 3.. that is why proto scrubs play public, big fish.. small pond. I play 99% of my matches solo, including FW. Its possible, but you have to be ready for the huge challenge that it is. As far as Molon goes, they dont always run full proto stomps. I run into solo or squads of them using regular gear in FW all the time. It should be called "squad stomping", because its the coordination and close communication of a group that magnifies the power it can project. As far as the ISK goes, the amount should be upped by about 40%, but not as high as we saw. One of the aspects of warfare is financing your war. This game is tied to a larger MMO. We cant just have unlimited decisions with minimal consequences. We are mercenaries, we fight for ISK. Leadfoot10 wrote: I suspect I would crush you in an advanced suit with dual sidearms -- which is what I mostly run these days. Doesn't quite fit into you "proto scrub" description, now does it? I got this way, not through some magical fast twitch muscles of a 15 year old. I'm 44. I'm able to do this not because of some magical PC ISK faucet. I've never received on ISK from district locking. I'm able to do this because I recognize that the only person I can control is myself. I don't make up pejoratives for people who are better than me at this game. I don't make up excuses when faced with a challenge, but rather accept them and use them to get better. Lol been here before havent you? I cant really think of much else that one could accuse you of.



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