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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:19:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Use a profile dampener. I know gallente kinda needs all 5 low slots to even be competitive, but try it out if you haven't. I stopped dying because I can hide behind a wall and no one bothers with me.
I also skilled into mass driver and shotgun to counter other scouts with my assault. I run minmatar with 470 shields and 300 armor...two complex regulators. Also got my bolt pistol up there and can one-shot scouts from range.
Honestly, I stopped using a light weapon on my logi and have been sticking with the bolt pistol as the main weapon I use and love every second of it. Take a few shots with a bolt pistol, finish them off with a shotgun, mass driver, or HMG if they try to get close. Most of the time they expect you to be an easy kill when really it's just a trap. I use a fitting with two complex profile dampeners. The issue is that it doesn't have enough durability to survive engagements and Scouts/some scanners can still find me with ease. That's your problem. Assaults aren't supposed to be stealthy, want stealth be a scout cause they can beat an ewar assault at ewar and assault hands down. I put reps and armor on my Gal assault and it works out well and while the bonus isn't particularly great it does allow for the hipfire to be about as accurate as ADS at what seems to be close to the end of the AR's optimal (haven't paid too much attention to how far but it's a good bit for sure) which is nice cause you can be more mobile while the other guy might have to ADS to hit you accurately which usually means he's dead.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:47:00 -
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Gallente Assault Bonus affects 3/4 Gallente Weapons. Whether it is useful bonus, that is a different story.
Anywho, I like my Gallente Assault and Logi because of their slot layout, faster speed, and regen. The bonus is meh so it's like I'm running a frame instead of a specialized suit. |
Aeon Amadi
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7048
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:14:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Use a profile dampener. I know gallente kinda needs all 5 low slots to even be competitive, but try it out if you haven't. I stopped dying because I can hide behind a wall and no one bothers with me.
I also skilled into mass driver and shotgun to counter other scouts with my assault. I run minmatar with 470 shields and 300 armor...two complex regulators. Also got my bolt pistol up there and can one-shot scouts from range.
Honestly, I stopped using a light weapon on my logi and have been sticking with the bolt pistol as the main weapon I use and love every second of it. Take a few shots with a bolt pistol, finish them off with a shotgun, mass driver, or HMG if they try to get close. Most of the time they expect you to be an easy kill when really it's just a trap. I use a fitting with two complex profile dampeners. The issue is that it doesn't have enough durability to survive engagements and Scouts/some scanners can still find me with ease. That's your problem. Assaults aren't supposed to be stealthy, want stealth be a scout cause they can beat an ewar assault at ewar and assault hands down. I put reps and armor on my Gal assault and it works out well and while the bonus isn't particularly great it does allow for the hipfire to be about as accurate as ADS at what seems to be close to the end of the AR's optimal (haven't paid too much attention to how far but it's a good bit for sure) which is nice cause you can be more mobile while the other guy might have to ADS to hit you accurately which usually means he's dead.
You kinda -have- to run EWAR in this current meta though. Assaults are torn between running EWAR to survive being scanned, being quick on the draw enough to find and kill Scouts before they get Predator-killed, or having enough offense/defense to take on a Heavy.
Versatility is great until you're being pulled in more directions than you can feasibly account for.
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Jebus McKing
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Posted - 2014.11.06 19:00:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Got the stacking penalties mixed up, calm down. My bad for not knowing every little tiny facet of this monstrously large game.
Asking for feedback is one thing, sure - but we've already got changes in the work for Tuesday's balance hotfix that had no previous discussion (something I'm working on right now). Which, is to say that the Focused Active Scanner is being nerfed; something I -totally- disagree with because I don't really hear people saying that the Focused Active Scanner is OP. Damn thing has some major drawbacks for it's powerful precision. No big deal, we all make mistakes and I did not want to sound rude or anything. It's just becoming so hard lately to have a good discussion when people are spreading inaccurate numbers so I have developed a tendency to correct them in a rather direct manner. So please don't take it personally.
I wouldn't lose my mind about Rattati making these kind of changes. He has proven to be someone you can convince with facts when he is making a mistake. He probably has his reasons for changing this and I'm abso absolutely sure and Rattati has proven that if this change will overnerf the active scanner he can make adjustments in a timely manner.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2040
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Posted - 2014.11.06 19:30:00 -
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If you think the Gal Assault bonus is crap, try Caldari. lolRR reload.
My advice: Go Gal Scout. Run two damps and a cloak.
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
The good news is they are only one respec away. |
Aeon Amadi
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7064
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Posted - 2014.11.07 02:15:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:If you think the Gal Assault bonus is crap, try Caldari. lolRR reload.
My advice: Go Gal Scout. Run two damps and a cloak.
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
The good news is they are only one respec away.
I'd take reload speed over dispersion on weapons that either don't need it (Shotgun) or weapons that already have a Sharpshooter skill (Assault Rifle / Ion Pistol).
Like, you have no idea how quickly I would make that decision.
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Cheydinhal Guard
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.11.07 04:36:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:If you think the Gal Assault bonus is crap, try Caldari. lolRR reload.
My advice: Go Gal Scout. Run two damps and a cloak.
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
The good news is they are only one respec away. I'd take reload speed over dispersion on weapons that either don't need it (Shotgun) or weapons that already have a Sharpshooter skill (Assault Rifle / Ion Pistol). Like, you have no idea how quickly I would make that decision. Why stick to one race? With the way the meta shifts, that one suit/race will quickly become stale, or it will be pushed out of viability. As a fellow Gal logi, I know that sticking to that suit only is suicide, even if it's a reliable suit. Branch out a bit, switch up your play style. Take a break from the Gal assault.
If you wish to avoid speccing into scouts, then my advice to you is to spec into the Min assault, or the Min commando. The MinAss has a Great slot layout. You can avoid those pesky scans while simultaneously Having some decent shield tank, Along with good speed for strafing.
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Aeon Amadi
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7067
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Posted - 2014.11.07 04:52:00 -
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Cheydinhal Guard wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:If you think the Gal Assault bonus is crap, try Caldari. lolRR reload.
My advice: Go Gal Scout. Run two damps and a cloak.
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
The good news is they are only one respec away. I'd take reload speed over dispersion on weapons that either don't need it (Shotgun) or weapons that already have a Sharpshooter skill (Assault Rifle / Ion Pistol). Like, you have no idea how quickly I would make that decision. Why stick to one race? With the way the meta shifts, that one suit/race will quickly become stale, or it will be pushed out of viability. As a fellow Gal logi, I know that sticking to that suit only is suicide, even if it's a reliable suit. Branch out a bit, switch up your play style. Take a break from the Gal assault. If you wish to avoid speccing into scouts, then my advice to you is to spec into the Min assault, or the Min commando. The MinAss has a Great slot layout. You can avoid those pesky scans while simultaneously Having some decent shield tank, Along with good speed for strafing.
I've run everything, I just don't -like- what their playstyle is like. As minor of a difference as it is the shift between Gallente Assault (armor) and Caldari Assault (shield) speed-wise is immense and I overshoot a lot of the time. Tried Amarr Assault, not fast enough repair rate for me... Minmatar is usually too flimsy.
Trust me when I say I've tried out everything before I respecced. Just nothing I -like- playing and I figured that out of the Gal Assault/Logistics/Commando at least one of them would be viable.
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Posted - 2014.11.07 05:02:00 -
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Dont bother dampening your gallente assault. Run 3 plates 2 reps with a breach ar and you should be wrecking everything. Also, if you squad up, heavies and scouts will be far less of a problem.
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Songs of Seraphim
Murphys-Law
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Posted - 2014.11.07 05:40:00 -
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Aeon, I don't know you, but I feel your pain.
There are times where I feel as if I can't keep up in this game -- I'm average at best, but I shouldn't feel like I'm hitting a wall, you know?
I've played this game for around 7 months or so, and all I've ever known is the Caldari Assault. Even when it was even more gimped than it is now, I used it. I only had 5 fits 7 months ago -- the starter fits and the ADV assault.
Then I tapped into Logistics, Caldari, of course. I had fun, but it's only really viable when you are in a squad.
I've recently specced into a scout (ck.0), and I don't get the fuss. Although seeing "SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED" is pretty funny when you can see the guy trying to scan you.
I'm actually thinking about going commando (the role, not the forgoing of underwear whilst wearing pants) because of the AV option.
I try doing it on my assault (4 damage mods & an extender), but it just seems lackluster. But if there's anything I love more than seeing +50 Kill or an endless stream of +10's from Nanohives or +25 Triage is seeing +150 tank destruction followed by +50 Kill, +50 Kill, +50 Kill.
So, there would be times where you just want to hang up the game, say, "I'm done" and not look back. But you don't because you want to relive those moments when you're with your squad, clones are down to single digits on both sides, MCCs have barely any ticks left, you're killed then needled & repped, take cover, fight for that objective, and manage to win. The ISK cost doesn't matter as long as you felt like you did your part and contributed for the win.
So take that Plasma Cannon and shoot some reds as you see their bodies fly outwards and up like a rag doll. |
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 06:17:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Long winded personal observations, opinions, thoughts, and feelings. You've been warned.
Stick with what you love.
No matter what. Skilling into FOTM because you feel the need will leave you empty inside. I may only reach a slightly above average K/D, but I giggle with joy every time I triumph over other suits in nothing but my Minmatar Suits.
If you love your Gallente, stick with it. And talk to Kirk, I'm sure he can help you out with some fitting problems or playstyle problems. I always see him run the Gal Assault in pubs, and he can still wreck with it, alongside our Min and Amarr assaults as well.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2051
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Posted - 2014.11.07 06:22:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:If you think the Gal Assault bonus is crap, try Caldari. lolRR reload.
My advice: Go Gal Scout. Run two damps and a cloak.
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
The good news is they are only one respec away. I'd take reload speed over dispersion on weapons that either don't need it (Shotgun) or weapons that already have a Sharpshooter skill (Assault Rifle / Ion Pistol). Like, you have no idea how quickly I would make that decision.
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.
For assault suits, I'd take dispersion over reload equally quick. I'm switching weapons to sidearms when my clip empties anyway, and I prefer to hipfire.
I guess it really depends on your own preferences and playstyle -- like much in this game.
Thankfully, CCP has given us a great deal of choice in this regard, and what works best for this clone might not work best for that one.
And that's fine by me! |
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