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CCP Rattati wrote:

Vell0cet wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

I'm going to throw one final design that I have had evaluated. It is possible to penalize one class over the other. So we can do

if scout then worse plate penalty for example.

Another thing is that we are able to focus the penalty on strafing specifically.

So the idea would be to penalize forward movement less on "normal plates", but severely decrease strafe speed, and more on the scout than other classes. Reactives and ferros would not incur these hard penalties.

This would mean Amarr Sentinels become very unwieldy, bastions like they were supposed to be, but weak to being headshotted at range, and brick tanked scouts will always have speed less than equal ehp assaults.

Let the fireworks begin.

Make a new stat on all suits called mass. Speed/agility would be derived from mass. Light suits have low mass, heavies high mass. Plates would add a fixed amount of mass to the suits (except feroscale). This would heavily penalize the movement of low mass suits and less so on heavy frames (as a relative percent change). Likewise shield extenders would increase signature profile. Add a feroscale analogue for shield extenders without the penalty. This would more closely follow EVE.

Even if not directly added to the stats, that's exactly how I intend to design the penalties, and share the calculations.


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Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 2478	Posted - 2014.11.08 06:25:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I'm going to throw one final design that I have had evaluated. It is possible to penalize one class over the other. So we can do if scout then worse plate penalty for example. Another thing is that we are able to focus the penalty on strafing specifically. So the idea would be to penalize forward movement less on "normal plates", but severely decrease strafe speed, and more on the scout than other classes. Reactives and ferros would not incur these hard penalties. This would mean Amarr Sentinels become very unwieldy, bastions like they were supposed to be, but weak to being headshotted at range, and brick tanked scouts will always have speed less than equal ehp assaults. Let the fireworks begin. Make a new stat on all suits called mass. Speed/agility would be derived from mass. Light suits have low mass, heavies high mass. Plates would add a fixed amount of mass to the suits (except feroscale). This would heavily penalize the movement of low mass suits and less so on heavy frames (as a relative percent change). Likewise shield extenders would increase signature profile. Add a feroscale analogue for shield extenders without the penalty. This would more closely follow EVE. Best PvE idea ever!
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 2478	Posted - 2014.11.08 08:10:00 - [2] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Vell0cet wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I'm going to throw one final design that I have had evaluated. It is possible to penalize one class over the other. So we can do if scout then worse plate penalty for example. Another thing is that we are able to focus the penalty on strafing specifically. So the idea would be to penalize forward movement less on "normal plates", but severely decrease strafe speed, and more on the scout than other classes. Reactives and ferros would not incur these hard penalties. This would mean Amarr Sentinels become very unwieldy, bastions like they were supposed to be, but weak to being headshotted at range, and brick tanked scouts will always have speed less than equal ehp assaults. Let the fireworks begin. Make a new stat on all suits called mass. Speed/agility would be derived from mass. Light suits have low mass, heavies high mass. Plates would add a fixed amount of mass to the suits (except feroscale). This would heavily penalize the movement of low mass suits and less so on heavy frames (as a relative percent change). Likewise shield extenders would increase signature profile. Add a feroscale analogue for shield extenders without the penalty. This would more closely follow EVE. Even if not directly added to the stats, that's exactly how I intend to design the penalties, and share the calculations. Yeah, the outcome would be the same. With the mass stat, everything would be consistent though instead of having different rules applying to different frame sizes, which is "un-EVEesque." The mass stat would be more elegant, if a bit more work to add. It may not be hotfixable though. Best PvE idea ever!