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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 13:00:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Everyone,
post 1.9 there have been a lot of calls for EWAR changes and I am all for another spin, anything to shake up the meta.
Can't do Passive Scan sharing with Squad removal is impossible without extensive refactoring work of the whole scan system Same applies to precision falloff - this is even more complex
Supposed to do I am happy with Squad members only getting intel assists, otherwise we are promoting spam
So let's focus on what can be done.
Easy to do Remove all directional information about the enemy - Enemies can be pure circles without the arrow
Could do Commando should have better sig profile (-5) than Sentinel, Sentinel has better precision (+5) - skirmisher vs point defense Assault should have better sig profile (-5) than Logi, Logi has better precision (+5) Plot twist: Extenders and Plates add signature profile Spy uplinks - std only heavies, adv only mediums+, pro scouts+, this is to be able to use "motion sensors" to set up a defense in PC Reduce ultra range of Active Scanners by 50% - no reason for a fully skilled logi to see the whole battle field Put all frames at same passive ranges at 15, otherwise amplifiers are just too good for scouts and useless for others STD Active scanner only sees STD Deployables, and so forth, Proximity AV Mines - get much better if they can't be seen, same with uplinks. Reduce Scan duration across the board Hand in hand - Gallogi/Cloak and Stealth Scout changes - can be isolated Focused Scanner should be set at share with Squad only
And more, these were the basic premise. Combined with the Orbital EMP strikes, this could get very interesting indeed.
Math I didn't go all out and do every combination, but was playing with these scenarios
1) "what if an Assault is running lvl 5 skills" 1) "what if an Assault is running lvl 5 skills and a single complex dampener"
Both of them should have a good incentive to do, 1) should beat a lazy scout with no EWAR and STD Active Scanners, and 2) should beat an ADV active scanner. The key is to not jump to "everyone is a lvl 5proto Gallogi" and design from there.
I believe that most of these make sense and would make EWAR a lot less binary, even if binary in nature, and allow for awesome gameplay that makes skilling properly into roles pay off. Question: would it be possible to make the dot appear for some suits, but not others, based on the ratio of scan precision to profile dampening?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 13:12:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2406348#post2406348
Im going to leave this here...
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.09 05:59:00 -
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DO NOT GIVE EXTENDERS A PROFILE PENALTY
It will completely ruin the min scout. I already take half my HP from the fall damage from just JUMPING if I have no HP mods. This change would completely invalidate us. If you're gonna give plates a profile penalty, make it only the non variant plates (same as move speed), though, TBH, I think that doubling the penalties of HP mods on scout suits would be sufficient, if the nerfs that you have in place haven't been enough.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.09 15:43:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:DO NOT GIVE EXTENDERS A PROFILE PENALTY
It will completely ruin the min scout. I already take half my HP from the fall damage from just JUMPING if I have no HP mods. This change would completely invalidate us. If you're gonna give plates a profile penalty, make it only the non variant plates (same as move speed), though, TBH, I think that doubling the penalties of HP mods on scout suits would be sufficient, if the nerfs that you have in place haven't been enough. Or they could always do this: Negates 18% fall damage per level. (Min scout level 5 would have 90% fall damage reduction.) *Facepalm*
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.09 15:48:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:It has recently come to my attention that back in July, the last time Rattati made changes to EWAR that in this post: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168249&find=unreadHe linked a google sheets page that had profile values. The numbers for the Amarr Scout and Minmatar Scout when using 2 complex profile dampeners are incorrect. The Amarr and Minmatar Scouts, according to that page, can overcome a lvl 5 Amarr Scout using 2 Complex Precision Enhancers simply by equipping an equal number of Complex Profile Dampeners. This is false. The Amarr and Minmatar Scouts need 2 Complex Profile Dampeners and the Ishukone Cloak Field to overcome a lvl 5 Amarr Scout with 2 Complex Precision Enhancers I am not sure if Rattati is still using this innacurate information to determine his ideas, but the many of these things heavily penalize Minmatar Scouts while penalizing Amarr and Caldari fairly well too. The Gallente Scout is least effected, yet that seems to be the target. Reminder: Just because someone is an employed developer does not make their ideas sacrosanct. This. All you're doing is killing off the minmitar scout, while continuing to make the Gallente the only viable option. In all honesty, the minmitar scout is in a good place/slight need of a tiny buff (to dampening), whereas the other scouts are in a good place/in need of a small nerf.
Please do not seriously consider the HP mods penalizing any form of eWAR as a possibility.
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