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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.06 07:45:00 -
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Silver Strike44 wrote:The best scout could really be any of them besides the minmatar. The caldari and gallente are more versatile so I like them a bit more. I would have to say that the caldari or minmatar variants are the best commandos as they get bonuses to rail rifles and swarm launchers, respectively, which goes well with what the class is for. Logi definitely goes to the minmatar or gallente. Caldari and Amarr compete for the best sentinel. I really dont know about the assaults, maybe amarr. Let me know what you guys think, if im wrong or right, and why.
As far as sentinel goes I find that all 4 races are pretty well balanced with each other.
Amarr sentinel is the Brick Tank king so it's really good at entrenched point defense when you have a logi. It also has that projectile resistance which is really good against HMGs and (op)Combat rifles. Excellent against other sentinels. Best suit for rooms with no cover.
The Caldari sentinel is really good at point defense in rooms with objects in it. It can tank grenades well, REs well (as in survive them even at adv. level) and with super fast shield regen can hold a point a long time by ducking around a corner and back out. It's kind of the warfighter sentinel. Gets kinda eaten up by scramblers but outside of that is excellent if you are getting rushed by asssaults or scouts and can move objects between you and the enemy at will. GREAT if you don't have a logi.
Gallente is halfway between Caldari and Amarr in play style and has the added bonus of being able to do alright without a logi.
And the Minmatar is the calvary heavy. Great at flanking like an assault suit room to room. Really a very good offensive sentinel -- while equally poor at point defense.
So if you play each suit to their strengths (which all play quite differently -- although I think a good armor rep module efficacy bonus on the Gallente suit is needed to give it its own real role is needed) I think you'll find the sentinels are really quite even with eachother in terms of situational utility.
I have tried all the sentinel suits out. I have not tried all of the assault suits out (I'm an Amarr assault and I use Amarr guns) so I can't really comment on those.
And commandos still suck in general. |
Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 06:44:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:People put down the minmatar scout as the weakest scout but, I don't see it that way. If you want to play assault scout then yes, go with gallente or caldari. The minmatar has a different play style. With the minmatar you don't go in full frontal. What you do is you sneak in. You drop a few links and then kill the 1 unsuspecting guy who was left by himself to guard a letter. You then hack said letter and you get out. Hell. often times you don't even kill anybody. Go in, hack and get out. The minmatar scout does an amazing job of infiltrating and also moving troops forward via uplinks. Because it has fast stamina regen and also fast moving speed it can reach objective very fast.
In short, it depends on your play style. Minmatar does have speed but at the moment EWAR>speed HP>speed =other scouts>minja Minja=hard mode for scouting I can do reasonably well with my minja but I die a lot due to its disadvantages
I disagree on one point. Speed>hp. |
Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.08 02:47:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:People put down the minmatar scout as the weakest scout but, I don't see it that way. If you want to play assault scout then yes, go with gallente or caldari. The minmatar has a different play style. With the minmatar you don't go in full frontal. What you do is you sneak in. You drop a few links and then kill the 1 unsuspecting guy who was left by himself to guard a letter. You then hack said letter and you get out. Hell. often times you don't even kill anybody. Go in, hack and get out. The minmatar scout does an amazing job of infiltrating and also moving troops forward via uplinks. Because it has fast stamina regen and also fast moving speed it can reach objective very fast.
In short, it depends on your play style. Minmatar does have speed but at the moment EWAR>speed HP>speed =other scouts>minja Minja=hard mode for scouting I can do reasonably well with my minja but I die a lot due to its disadvantages I disagree on one point. Speed>hp. Not when you get stuck on terrain or slow to a crawl when shot. I thought they fixed that but I still get every once in a while.
Stuck on terrain is not an issue with Speed tanking. Slowing down when you get hit is but , as you just said, it is rare. Scouts regularly outshoot assaults with twice the HP in a head to head fight. Why is that? Speed. |
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