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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.06 04:06:00 -
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The 0.33 second delay is clearly not enough after observing and experiencing its effects. Several times now I have been the victim of cloaky shotgunners who managed to fire off a shot immediately after decloaking and are able to do it consistently.
Time to increase the delay.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.06 04:19:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Nope. While I love this patch for shotgunning, due to MUCH better framereate allowing me to actually hit shots and not blue shield flash people all day long, the delay is working as intended.
Iv died several times today because I couldn't get a shot off fast enough from cloak where I used to be able to.
Combined with the range nerf, this is the average scenario where I would die to the new delay:
1. Im running around, trying to find someone to kill/something to hack, or running away from something. Im cloaked.
2. No scan range means that I can't ping the Gal Assault that just came around a corner in front of me. We see each other at the same time
3. The Breach AR begins to pop my shields, and I decloak.
4. I think WOAH need to do something quick.
5. The .33 seconds where I can't shoot allows him to get a shot off, as well as backpedal 2m, making him a 3-shot target, where before I would have had him at 200 armor at this point, and lining up the kill shot.
6. If he misses a few shots, I can still kill him. However, he is at an advantage here, and generally can kill me.
Not really as intended apparently. Have you even been the victim of the cloak shotty recently? I have even seen players squeeze off a shot from their shotgun while their cloak is still on for some reason (might be lag).
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.06 05:20:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I have been shooting at the wall in Pub Contracts this morning, and I can shoot immediately out of cloak. I don't notice any delay (0.33 sec is a very short time) Time to bump that delay up to a full second, Rattati!  Make that 3 seconds, scouts aren't suppose to be able to stomp a proto sentinel
That's too much. I wouldn't accept that even for my most hated enemy (shotgunners). I was thinking maybe an extra 0.5 second to the already-0.33 second would do just fine. Of course, I don't want to nerf it too badly since I also occasionally use cloaks whenever I have to.
@Rattati
Whoa! Didn't expect you to come to my thread.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10126
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Posted - 2014.11.06 05:26:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:Called it! I would take what gav says with a grain of salt the .33 sec shouldn't effect a good scout at all. The ttk is and will remain the issue until scouts are side arm only. I mean if they raise it any more the failtard sgers will just drop the cloak after they already ruined it for everyone else.
I hate this idea. I dread it even. Not for me, but for those who are not me. I'm a dedicated ninja knifer so I am not going to be affected by this. But others will. I may hate shotgunners a lot, but I don't hate them enough to warrant taking away their shotguns.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10126
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Posted - 2014.11.06 05:36:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:You obviously have not played side arms scout it isn't gimped at all and the reason some of us are so for it is because the important things to the class are getting nerfed in the light weapon slots stead. Beyond that sg scout really is a skill less play style that subverts awareness, strategy, and gungame and has huge benefits... It would also lessen the effectiveness of strife scouts.
Those two play styles are the reason scouts scouts get so much hate on the forums and the problem is that the scouts just say don't nerf me bro while the none scouts promote nerfs that have nothing to do with the problem they encounter because they have little idea of how the class plays and we end up with poor changes that are sure to destroy the class.
That first bit right there... let me reiterate what I just said.
I'm a dedicated ninja knifer.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10137
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Posted - 2014.11.06 14:39:00 -
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jpmannu wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:The 0.33 second delay is clearly not enough after observing and experiencing its effects. Several times now I have been the victim of cloaky shotgunners who managed to fire off a shot immediately after decloaking and are able to do it consistently.
Time to increase the delay. cry cry cry.... this forum is a basin of tears, lets wait for another further nerf on scouts. Moaners.
Dude, I think you need a refund from that dealer who sold you the weed. I think that's some bad quality you're smoking.
This is a nerf to cloak. Not the scout. I can already wreck peeps without needing a cloak and with just nova knives on a minscout.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10137
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:29:00 -
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maluble wrote:I knew it wouldn't do anything, take away light weapons.
No. It just means the delay needs to be extended more.
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