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Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:50:00 -
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The aim assist is extremely lacking, I suggest you get any other shooter game and try out the aiming, it's absolutely NOTHING alike this game, I also seem to notice that guns are almost TOO accurate, every other game encourages bursting the weapon and the guns kind of spray bullets in the general vicinity of the opponent, forcing them to hide or die, rather than zig zag to dodge (that plain doesn't work) what I'm getting at is that CCP should probably play a couple of other console shooters and take as much away from their success as possible, maybe even try asking for advice from other developers, though that probably won't work.
I have played (and own) countless console shooters, and this is unlike any other in the seemingly basic mechanics of aiming and balance. I like this game, I like the art style more than many future shooters, and I like the variety, but the game needs some serious work!
Thank you for your time and consideration! |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
4532
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Posted - 2014.11.06 01:00:00 -
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Milemar Falcon wrote:The aim assist is extremely lacking, I suggest you get any other shooter game and try out the aiming, it's absolutely NOTHING alike this game, I also seem to notice that guns are almost TOO accurate, every other game encourages bursting the weapon and the guns kind of spray bullets in the general vicinity of the opponent, forcing them to hide or die, rather than zig zag to dodge (that plain doesn't work) what I'm getting at is that CCP should probably play a couple of other console shooters and take as much away from their success as possible, maybe even try asking for advice from other developers, though that probably won't work.
I have played (and own) countless console shooters, and this is unlike any other in the seemingly basic mechanics of aiming and balance. I like this game, I like the art style more than many future shooters, and I like the variety, but the game needs some serious work!
Thank you for your time and consideration!
nobody playing this game long-term wants reticle magnetism. Destiny's aim assist doesn't help even the skill plane, it eliminates it. there is no functional difference in the aim of a skilled shooter or a two day old newb, just how they approach the kill.
Aim assist should be like seasoning, not the damned entree.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 01:17:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Milemar Falcon wrote:The aim assist is extremely lacking, I suggest you get any other shooter game and try out the aiming, it's absolutely NOTHING alike this game, I also seem to notice that guns are almost TOO accurate, every other game encourages bursting the weapon and the guns kind of spray bullets in the general vicinity of the opponent, forcing them to hide or die, rather than zig zag to dodge (that plain doesn't work) what I'm getting at is that CCP should probably play a couple of other console shooters and take as much away from their success as possible, maybe even try asking for advice from other developers, though that probably won't work.
I have played (and own) countless console shooters, and this is unlike any other in the seemingly basic mechanics of aiming and balance. I like this game, I like the art style more than many future shooters, and I like the variety, but the game needs some serious work!
Thank you for your time and consideration! nobody playing this game long-term wants reticle magnetism. Destiny's aim assist doesn't help even the skill plane, it eliminates it. there is no functional difference in the aim of a skilled shooter or a two day old newb, just how they approach the kill. Aim assist should be like seasoning, not the damned entree.
Now I ask YOU, have you ever played another shooter on the PS3? The aiming is COMPLETELY different! The player shouldn't have to fight the game, the player fights the opponents, I agree that it shouldn't be OP, your gun shouldn't SNAP right to the enemy's head, I'm saying it should help you aim at the opponent, from my personal experience the aiming is totally worse than ALL successful shooters on the console, the aim speed is too slow. "Nobody wants reticule magnetism" it's not that OP in other shooters, it's also NOT very high to begin with in this game. It NEEDS upped! And before you assume I'm a noob, I've been at this game since shortly after it was released, I've played and stopped and I've come back and played for another 6 months and I still STRONGLY believe that the aim assist AND sensitivity need upped. |
jNs Vit4l
THE 300 SPARTANS
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Posted - 2014.11.06 01:22:00 -
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Milemar Falcon wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Milemar Falcon wrote:The aim assist is extremely lacking, I suggest you get any other shooter game and try out the aiming, it's absolutely NOTHING alike this game, I also seem to notice that guns are almost TOO accurate, every other game encourages bursting the weapon and the guns kind of spray bullets in the general vicinity of the opponent, forcing them to hide or die, rather than zig zag to dodge (that plain doesn't work) what I'm getting at is that CCP should probably play a couple of other console shooters and take as much away from their success as possible, maybe even try asking for advice from other developers, though that probably won't work.
I have played (and own) countless console shooters, and this is unlike any other in the seemingly basic mechanics of aiming and balance. I like this game, I like the art style more than many future shooters, and I like the variety, but the game needs some serious work!
Thank you for your time and consideration! nobody playing this game long-term wants reticle magnetism. Destiny's aim assist doesn't help even the skill plane, it eliminates it. there is no functional difference in the aim of a skilled shooter or a two day old newb, just how they approach the kill. Aim assist should be like seasoning, not the damned entree. Now I ask YOU, have you ever played another shooter on the PS3? The aiming is COMPLETELY different! The player shouldn't have to fight the game, the player fights the opponents, I agree that it shouldn't be OP, your gun shouldn't SNAP right to the enemy's head, I'm saying it should help you aim at the opponent, from my personal experience the aiming is totally worse than ALL successful shooters on the console, the aim speed is too slow. "Nobody wants reticule magnetism" it's not that OP in other shooters, it's also NOT very high to begin with in this game. It NEEDS upped! And before you assume I'm a noob, I've been at this game since shortly after it was released, I've played and stopped and I've come back and played for another 6 months and I still STRONGLY believe that the aim assist AND sensitivity need upped.
Why would you use aim assist in the first place? Set that crap to off and start improving your gungame nothing compares to it.
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tander09
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
163
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Posted - 2014.11.06 01:42:00 -
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Did True Adamance let out a slave? Cause this minmatard sounds like he wants a beating!
"If the gallente brainwash me again, they shall be purged by God himself!"
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Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 01:51:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:Milemar Falcon wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Milemar Falcon wrote:The aim assist is extremely lacking, I suggest you get any other shooter game and try out the aiming, it's absolutely NOTHING alike this game, I also seem to notice that guns are almost TOO accurate, every other game encourages bursting the weapon and the guns kind of spray bullets in the general vicinity of the opponent, forcing them to hide or die, rather than zig zag to dodge (that plain doesn't work) what I'm getting at is that CCP should probably play a couple of other console shooters and take as much away from their success as possible, maybe even try asking for advice from other developers, though that probably won't work.
I have played (and own) countless console shooters, and this is unlike any other in the seemingly basic mechanics of aiming and balance. I like this game, I like the art style more than many future shooters, and I like the variety, but the game needs some serious work!
Thank you for your time and consideration! nobody playing this game long-term wants reticle magnetism. Destiny's aim assist doesn't help even the skill plane, it eliminates it. there is no functional difference in the aim of a skilled shooter or a two day old newb, just how they approach the kill. Aim assist should be like seasoning, not the damned entree. Now I ask YOU, have you ever played another shooter on the PS3? The aiming is COMPLETELY different! The player shouldn't have to fight the game, the player fights the opponents, I agree that it shouldn't be OP, your gun shouldn't SNAP right to the enemy's head, I'm saying it should help you aim at the opponent, from my personal experience the aiming is totally worse than ALL successful shooters on the console, the aim speed is too slow. "Nobody wants reticule magnetism" it's not that OP in other shooters, it's also NOT very high to begin with in this game. It NEEDS upped! And before you assume I'm a noob, I've been at this game since shortly after it was released, I've played and stopped and I've come back and played for another 6 months and I still STRONGLY believe that the aim assist AND sensitivity need upped. Why would you use aim assist in the first place? Set that crap to off and start improving your gungame nothing compares to it.
Because it's a lot harder to aim with joysticks, than with a mouse and keyboard, if you haven't played a number of CONSOLE FPS games, then you don't have any room to talk, coming from a PC is easy because you're not accustomed to any one kind of sensitivity, it's ALL new, but to a veteran its a whole different ball game, even switching from COD to Battlefield is tricky, but nothing comes close to this game! I have played a variety of console FPS games and this game is COMPLETELY messed up as far as the aiming! With a mouse and keyboard, it's easy, you have all the sensitivity and yet all the speed of your own hand, with joysticks you are limited by the touchiness of the joysticks, they aren't fast enough and yet they are often TOO touchy. And before you assume that I whine about every game I'm not great at, you're wrong, I get mad as heck at COD and Battlefield sometimes, but I haven't ever written a post about it, I'm saying this because I genuinely like this game, I want it to be easier for veterans to pick up and play, I'm saying as far as the basic mechanics, it should be more like Battlefield/COD, I have yet to hear of a veteran that can't pick up COD after playing Battlefield for a long time. Don't make the game easier to be GOOD at, make it easier to PLAY. |
Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1223
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Posted - 2014.11.06 02:01:00 -
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Git gungame scrub and learn how to aim
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Sequal Rise
Les Desanusseurs
171
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Posted - 2014.11.06 02:04:00 -
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Git gud.
Assaulting people since way too long..
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Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 02:21:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Git gungame scrub and learn how to aim
Don't talk to me unless you have played another CONSOLE FPS game, without aim assist, believe it or not, there's a reason aim assist exists, I may not be the best at FPS games but I fair pretty well, I know absolutely NOBODY that wants to get rid of aim assist that plays console games, the only people I know of that want to get rid of it, are PC gamers, and so far none of you guys giving me flak have even so much as TOLD me that you're a console gamer. Aim assist exists because aiming without it on a controller is hard as nails, the game SHOULDNT BE HARD TO PLAY IT SHOULD BE HARD TO MASTER. And "git" away unless you have something constructive to say, aim assist is here wether you want it or not, if you want it to be gone, I suggest YOU "git" because it isn't going anywhere. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
5852
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Posted - 2014.11.06 02:59:00 -
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I'd either like to have Destiny like aim assist or no aim assist.
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Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 03:09:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'd either like to have Destiny like aim assist or no aim assist.
Thank you for agreeing with me! Yes basically anything would be better than the current aim assist, and if these people don't want aim assist, don't use it, but I want aim assist and so do the vast majority of people. Destiny aim assist is pretty good, see it's also partially the sensitivity is really low in this game compared to other shooters (see my other article) so basically the whole aiming system in this game needs an overhaul, the aiming with a keyboard and mouse in this game is also not very good. You shouldn't have to fight the aim in a game, it should be easy to use and easy for noobs to pick up. As previously stated, it should be easy to use and hard to master. |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
235
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Posted - 2014.11.06 03:44:00 -
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I say removed the aim assist completely.
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Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 04:00:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:I say removed the aim assist completely.
Thanks for your opinion, but could you explain as to why? Is it breaking the game in any way? I don't really think so, as a matter of fact, it's barely noticeable compared to most popular FPS games. |
Lost Apollo
Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2014.11.06 04:08:00 -
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I have found that I do better with out amethyst. I only started playing console shooters 2 years ago but I've played quite a few of them since. I come from a 10-year PC shooter background. I will admit that a man with a controller vs a mouse and keyboard was very difficult for me at first.
I have found that with aim assist, I tend to fight the game more than I allow it to help. Aim assist does not lead the shots when they need to be led. It seems you actually trail behind.
With that being said, I just think they should take aim assisit out completely.
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Hector Carson
BLACK MAGES INC.
73
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Posted - 2014.11.06 04:42:00 -
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I don't think aim assist should even exist, it just gets in the way.
Scout shoots Sentinel like a BOSS.........with a Bolt Pistol
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1329
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Posted - 2014.11.06 04:56:00 -
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While I agree that this game's aiming/general FPS style could use some work, aim assist isn't the answer, it's just a bit of duct tape on the problem. I'd personally rather see aim assist turned off completely (And yes, before you say it, I have played other games without aim assist: The Killzone series mostly, but every single shooter I've had since Bad Company 2 has immediately gotten the AA turned off the second I start playing) Killzone 2 was one of my personal favorites, and it didn't have an ounce of aim assist. The game was fun, when you got killed it actually felt like skill versus someone getting lucky because their cursor was dragged over the target...
And please, for the love of Dust, stay away from Destiny's AA. It took me two hours to get used to Dust again after three days on the Destiny beta. It might have been smooth, but that AA just threw me for a complete loop.
Oh, and one more thing. You, or anyone else for that matter, aren't going to be capable of improving your aim to compete with KB/M if you rely on AA all the time. That skill doesn't just fall into a player's lap, but it is attainable. Joysticks might be harder to user, but the difficulty that arises is because so many games cater to the casual player and no one is willing to get accustomed to aiming without AA on a controller.
But back to the point. The game's aiming system could definitely use some improvement. Sadly, I don't think we'll be seeing that kind of fix until Legion.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
389
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Posted - 2014.11.06 05:07:00 -
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Milemar Falcon wrote:The aim assist is extremely lacking, I suggest you get any other shooter game and try out the aiming, it's absolutely NOTHING alike this game, I also seem to notice that guns are almost TOO accurate, every other game encourages bursting the weapon and the guns kind of spray bullets in the general vicinity of the opponent, forcing them to hide or die, rather than zig zag to dodge (that plain doesn't work)
So just to clarify.
Your saying that : bullets going where your actually aiming = bad bullets going where you didn't aim = good
Just to clarify. Im not making any judgements on anybody. I promise.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
4538
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Posted - 2014.11.06 05:25:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Milemar Falcon wrote:The aim assist is extremely lacking, I suggest you get any other shooter game and try out the aiming, it's absolutely NOTHING alike this game, I also seem to notice that guns are almost TOO accurate, every other game encourages bursting the weapon and the guns kind of spray bullets in the general vicinity of the opponent, forcing them to hide or die, rather than zig zag to dodge (that plain doesn't work) So just to clarify. Your saying that : bullets going where your actually aiming = bad bullets going where you didn't aim = good Just to clarify. Im not making any judgements on anybody. I promise.
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EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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GLOBAL fils'de RAGE
Consolidated Dust
29
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Posted - 2014.11.06 06:19:00 -
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Milemar Falcon wrote:jNs Vit4l wrote:Milemar Falcon wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Milemar Falcon wrote:The aim assist is extremely lacking, I suggest you get any other shooter game and try out the aiming, it's absolutely NOTHING alike this game, I also seem to notice that guns are almost TOO accurate, every other game encourages bursting the weapon and the guns kind of spray bullets in the general vicinity of the opponent, forcing them to hide or die, rather than zig zag to dodge (that plain doesn't work) what I'm getting at is that CCP should probably play a couple of other console shooters and take as much away from their success as possible, maybe even try asking for advice from other developers, though that probably won't work.
I have played (and own) countless console shooters, and this is unlike any other in the seemingly basic mechanics of aiming and balance. I like this game, I like the art style more than many future shooters, and I like the variety, but the game needs some serious work!
Thank you for your time and consideration! nobody playing this game long-term wants reticle magnetism. Destiny's aim assist doesn't help even the skill plane, it eliminates it. there is no functional difference in the aim of a skilled shooter or a two day old newb, just how they approach the kill. Aim assist should be like seasoning, not the damned entree. Now I ask YOU, have you ever played another shooter on the PS3? The aiming is COMPLETELY different! The player shouldn't have to fight the game, the player fights the opponents, I agree that it shouldn't be OP, your gun shouldn't SNAP right to the enemy's head, I'm saying it should help you aim at the opponent, from my personal experience the aiming is totally worse than ALL successful shooters on the console, the aim speed is too slow. "Nobody wants reticule magnetism" it's not that OP in other shooters, it's also NOT very high to begin with in this game. It NEEDS upped! And before you assume I'm a noob, I've been at this game since shortly after it was released, I've played and stopped and I've come back and played for another 6 months and I still STRONGLY believe that the aim assist AND sensitivity need upped. Why would you use aim assist in the first place? Set that crap to off and start improving your gungame nothing compares to it. Because it's a lot harder to aim with joysticks, than with a mouse and keyboard, if you haven't played a number of CONSOLE FPS games, then you don't have any room to talk, coming from a PC is easy because you're not accustomed to any one kind of sensitivity, it's ALL new, but to a veteran its a whole different ball game, even switching from COD to Battlefield is tricky, but nothing comes close to this game! I have played a variety of console FPS games and this game is COMPLETELY messed up as far as the aiming! With a mouse and keyboard, it's easy, you have all the sensitivity and yet all the speed of your own hand, with joysticks you are limited by the touchiness of the joysticks, they aren't fast enough and yet they are often TOO touchy. And before you assume that I whine about every game I'm not great at, you're wrong, I get mad as heck at COD and Battlefield sometimes, but I haven't ever written a post about it, I'm saying this because I genuinely like this game, I want it to be easier for veterans to pick up and play, I'm saying as far as the basic mechanics, it should be more like Battlefield/COD, I have yet to hear of a veteran that can't pick up COD after playing Battlefield for a long time. Don't make the game easier to be GOOD at, make it easier to PLAY.
This game panders to evetards, a creature that has no thumbs. Even if AA was improved and DS3 sensitivity increased LAG and the "high latency player" would still reign supreme.
Fuktarded as it may seem CCP created a game which tries, and fails, to defy the laws of physics and nature. |
Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
477
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Posted - 2014.11.06 06:58:00 -
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Is this your first thread? You sure picked a hell of a topic; one of the biggest bee hives you could kick on these forums.
Here is a pointer: DUST 514 players pride themselves on playing a FPS most decidedly UNLIKE any other out there. Suggesting DUST should take pointers from other games is quite near an insult. Rather, it should be other fps which should take pointers from DUST. If your gameplay is suspect, you may just find yourself the recipient of an "Go back to COD, scrub " email.
As for aim assist, well, DUST can be a cruel and unforgiving game. Only players with a high degree of mental fortitude and some signs of actual skill hold any chance of lasting as a player in DUST. As such, aim assist is considered by a large portion to be a crutch for players lacking any real talent, some players displaying an elitist attitude in this regard. You will notice many threads, including one currently running in the forum, that argue to remove AI from the game completely.
So be aware; this topic will garner much flamage and attract many an irate troll.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
166
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Posted - 2014.11.06 08:47:00 -
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@OP I too am pc a pc gamer that struggles with controller. I stick with it and suck like mad =ƒÿâ. Ever considered keyboard and mouse for dust?
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
4546
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Posted - 2014.11.06 09:18:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:@OP I too am pc a pc gamer that struggles with controller. I stick with it and suck like mad =ƒÿâ. Ever considered keyboard and mouse for dust? They work but kbm still sucks in DUST.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Raedon Vo-Graza
Armored Dragon Dust
41
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Posted - 2014.11.06 14:29:00 -
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aim assist shouldn't exist, in a game where time and money (real and not) is spent, and effort is put in to learn each weapon, then master your preferred weapon. you should have to learn the games controls as well, aim assist is a crutch. learn the controls and work with what you got either kbm or ds3, each has it's pro's and con's. this is supposed to be a game of effort. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
4560
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Posted - 2014.11.06 14:51:00 -
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Also kbm doesn't benefit from Aim assist. At all. Ever.
Certain weapons gain no benefits, like sniper rifles and forge guns receive zero AA support.
Any weapon that would go from "effective" to "bloody-handed rapemobile" with aim assist doesn't get it.
See: HMG or Shotgun.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 14:53:00 -
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Lost Apollo wrote:I have found that I do better with out amethyst. I only started playing console shooters 2 years ago but I've played quite a few of them since. I come from a 10-year PC shooter background. I will admit that a man with a controller vs a mouse and keyboard was very difficult for me at first.
I have found that with aim assist, I tend to fight the game more than I allow it to help. Aim assist does not lead the shots when they need to be led. It seems you actually trail behind.
With that being said, I just think they should take aim assisit out completely.
Or make it work, that way if you want it, use it and if you don't then shut it off. |
Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:00:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:While I agree that this game's aiming/general FPS style could use some work, aim assist isn't the answer, it's just a bit of duct tape on the problem. I'd personally rather see aim assist turned off completely (And yes, before you say it, I have played other games without aim assist: The Killzone series mostly, but every single shooter I've had since Bad Company 2 has immediately gotten the AA turned off the second I start playing) Killzone 2 was one of my personal favorites, and it didn't have an ounce of aim assist. The game was fun, when you got killed it actually felt like skill versus someone getting lucky because their cursor was dragged over the target...
And please, for the love of Dust, stay away from Destiny's AA. It took me two hours to get used to Dust again after three days on the Destiny beta. It might have been smooth, but that AA just threw me for a complete loop.
Oh, and one more thing. You, or anyone else for that matter, aren't going to be capable of improving your aim to compete with KB/M if you rely on AA all the time. That skill doesn't just fall into a player's lap, but it is attainable. Joysticks might be harder to user, but the difficulty that arises is because so many games cater to the casual player and no one is willing to get accustomed to aiming without AA on a controller.
But back to the point. The game's aiming system could definitely use some improvement. Sadly, I don't think we'll be seeing that kind of fix until Legion.
Thank you for a real reson as to why it should be removed, to be honest I've never not used AA, and neither have the majority of people I know, that's the only reason I ask for some real proof that you've played a number of console FPS games, coming from a PC is simple that way because you don't have AA to begin with. Thanks for your response, I'm gonna try not using aim assist. As for how the aim needs improved, the sensitivity seems like the biggest thing to me, it's total crap compared to other FPS games, I've written an article on that but I didn't get very many replies. |
Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:04:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Milemar Falcon wrote:The aim assist is extremely lacking, I suggest you get any other shooter game and try out the aiming, it's absolutely NOTHING alike this game, I also seem to notice that guns are almost TOO accurate, every other game encourages bursting the weapon and the guns kind of spray bullets in the general vicinity of the opponent, forcing them to hide or die, rather than zig zag to dodge (that plain doesn't work) So just to clarify. Your saying that : bullets going where your actually aiming = bad bullets going where you didn't aim = good Just to clarify. Im not making any judgements on anybody. I promise.
Hahahaha it sounds bad when you say it THAT way, I'm saying that in most other shooters the bullets seem to go in a wider spread, so if you miss a little bit, some bullets still hit the enemy, which seems like realism to me, if you're shooting a fully automatic gun, there's gonna be some substantial kick even if you're well trained. |
Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:15:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Is this your first thread? You sure picked a hell of a topic; one of the biggest bee hives you could kick on these forums.
Here is a pointer: DUST 514 players pride themselves on playing a FPS most decidedly UNLIKE any other out there. Suggesting DUST should take pointers from other games is quite near an insult. Rather, it should be other fps which should take pointers from DUST. If your gameplay is suspect, you may just find yourself the recipient of an "Go back to COD, scrub " email.
As for aim assist, well, DUST can be a cruel and unforgiving game. Only players with a high degree of mental fortitude and some signs of actual skill hold any chance of lasting as a player in DUST. As such, aim assist is considered by a large portion to be a crutch for players lacking any real talent, some players displaying an elitist attitude in this regard. You will notice many threads, including one currently running in the forum, that argue to remove AI from the game completely.
So be aware; this topic will garner much flamage and attract many an irate troll. Hahaha I'm quite aware of this now, I'm somewhat new to the forums yea, I've written a few other articles, I personally think that this games main distinct feature is 1: the economy 2: the HUGE amount of options 3: the EVE and DUST 514 connection, and 5: the EVE universe itself. That being said I DO think that in some ways it should be a bit more like other shooters, in the base mechanics of aiming especially, I like DUST despite what some might think, I want to see this game improve, and I've had a really difficult time picking this game up, and I think that if the aim system was improved it would be MUCH easier for EVERYONE to jump in. I've weitten another article a while ago about the flawed aim speed but it died out and didn't get many replies. |
Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:21:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:@OP I too am pc a pc gamer that struggles with controller. I stick with it and suck like mad =ƒÿâ. Ever considered keyboard and mouse for dust? ,I have a few times yea, it might be that I just can't get used to it very easily but it also seems a bit different from most PC shooters. I think that the main problem is the aim speed, I wrote an article on that but it died pretty quick. |
Milemar Falcon
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:26:00 -
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Raedon Vo-Graza wrote:aim assist shouldn't exist, in a game where time and money (real and not) is spent, and effort is put in to learn each weapon, then master your preferred weapon. you should have to learn the games controls as well, aim assist is a crutch. learn the controls and work with what you got either kbm or ds3, each has it's pro's and con's. this is supposed to be a game of effort. Every game is a game of effort, I realize that this game is more than others but I REALLY think that every game should be easy to play, but hard to master, this game is hard to play and near impossible to master. I really think that the aim SPEED is too low, but my article on that died quickly, I think the aim system is flawed in many ways but mainly in the low aim speed compared to EVERY other shooter. |
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